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LegoGE1947 said:
Back when Pope John Paul II died there was an Archbishop from Africa who looked like he would have a very good chance to become Pope. Cardinal Arinze(?)
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I noticed that. I don’t think it would matter to non African’s’ except to say the Cardinals did not have the courage to breakthrough the barrier now instead of waiting for a future generation… For black American’s specifically it would mean little in what we would see as a local leader in another location is. In other words an African Cardinal in Africa means nothing, that hurdle was passed a generation ago, racial/politically speaking that is.
 
4Squarebaby said:
My church is little different then the AoG. we may be a bit more Presbyterian and they a bit more congregational but that is it. Also as an evangelist Sister Aimee was known for breaking the Jim Crow codes as she traveled, so today Foursquare along with the Catholic Church and United Methodist are among the few that reach all levels of Black as well as the general society. Most mainline Protestant Churches only reach the elite of the Black community. As the current thread on blacks and the Catholic Church is saying it will take black leadership for more to join. Perhaps when the first African is elected Pope.

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There have already been African Popes.
 
Well in my lifetime all I have heard was the big deal that Pope John Paul was not Italian and then the next time around it was a German even though the core membership of the Church is no longer European. History means little here, I am talking racial politics of America today. The same politics which in my opinion caused the establishment of the Assemblies of God as separate from the other Pentecostal groups.
 
4Squarebaby said:
I noticed that. I don’t think it would matter to non African’s’ except to say the Cardinals did not have the courage to breakthrough the barrier now instead of waiting for a future generation… For black American’s specifically it would mean little in what we would see as a local leader in another location is**. In other words an African Cardinal in Africa means nothing, that hurdle was passed a generation ago, racial/politically speaking that is.**
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St. Augustine of Hippo, was from Algeria in Northern Africa.
The nice thing about an ecclesial (Church) language (Latin)…
It evens the playing field.
 
4Squarebaby said:
I noticed that. I don’t think it would matter to non African’s’ except to say the Cardinals did not have the courage to breakthrough the barrier now instead of waiting for a future generation… For black American’s specifically it would mean little in what we would see as a local leader in another location is. In other words an African Cardinal in Africa means nothing, that hurdle was passed a generation ago, racial/politically speaking that is.
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I think it’s more of breaking the non-Italian barrier. The past two Popes are the first non-Italians in a long time.

And you’re right, it wouldn’t be a big deal at all. As someone above pointed out, there have been African Popes before.
 
4Squarebaby said:
Also as an evangelist Sister Aimee was known for breaking the Jim Crow codes as she traveled
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Those aren’t the only laws Sister Aimee broke!
She wasn’t so fond of keeping the laws against adultery either. :rolleyes:
 
4Squarebaby said:
I noticed that. I don’t think it would matter to non African’s’ except to say the Cardinals did not have the courage to breakthrough the barrier now instead of waiting for a future generation… For black American’s specifically it would mean little in what we would see as a local leader in another location is. In other words an African Cardinal in Africa means nothing, that hurdle was passed a generation ago, racial/politically speaking that is.
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Note that Cardinal Arinze was high in the Vatican service, and has had much influence on the Church throughout the world.
 
4Squarebaby said:
Well in my lifetime all I have heard was the big deal that Pope John Paul was not Italian and then the next time around it was a German even though the core membership of the Church is no longer European. History means little here, I am talking racial politics of America today. The same politics which in my opinion caused the establishment of the Assemblies of God as separate from the other Pentecostal groups.
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The origins of the Assemblies of God did start with pastors being made pastors in the COGIC and then later forming the Assemblies of God due to racial tension. It really sucks that American Racism had an affect on these matters.

The Assemblies of God is not a racist denomination though. I know in the Past when black people would come to AoG they would “kindly” point them over to the COGIC because they were living that segregated American lifestyle, much like how there are many very black Catholic churches back then and even now in urban areas. They always considered the COGIC a sister denomination and have in the past while been building bridges and partnerships with each other.

Assemblies of God churches have lots of people of lots of ethnicities present, I should know, I have spent time in 7 or 8 Assemblies of God churches in Knoxville, TN and North Western Illinois.

I just want to make sure a false picture of a racist church is being formed, one of my dear good friends is a black pentecostal believer and he has attended many AoG churches, he has lived in Texas for the last year now though and I am not sure what church he is attending now.
 
firstmode said:
The origins of the Assemblies of God did start with pastors being made pastors in the COGIC and then later forming the Assemblies of God due to racial tension. It really sucks that American Racism had an affect on these matters.

The Assemblies of God is not a racist denomination though. I know in the Past when black people would come to AoG they would “kindly” point them over to the COGIC because they were living that segregated American lifestyle, much like how there are many very black Catholic churches back then and even now in urban areas. They always considered the COGIC a sister denomination and have in the past while been building bridges and partnerships with each other.

Assemblies of God churches have lots of people of lots of ethnicities present, I should know, I have spent time in 7 or 8 Assemblies of God churches in Knoxville, TN and North Western Illinois.

I just want to make sure a false picture of a racist church is being formed, one of my dear good friends is a black pentecostal believer and he has attended many AoG churches, he has lived in Texas for the last year now though and I am not sure what church he is attending now.
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Nowadays, its mostly an anachronism I think. The churches that were forced to be all black because of Jim Crow or whatever are now that way because of heritage and preservation of culture.

From my (limited) personal experience, Pentecostals in general are much more “integrated” than your average protestant church.
 
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