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phantasm said:
I’ll ask a Hindu, a Muslim, a jew, a Christian, a Buddhist and a Sikh for the answer.

Hmmm, I wonder if they’ll all agree on whose God is real?
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Nope. They won’t.
Humans aren’t going to come to a uniform answer. The answer is out there though. As I said earlier in this thread, this supreme being would have to show Himself to us. We could never find Him without His help. Now the question is, which religion is an actual revelation, and which ones are lies?
 
Veritas248 said:
Nope. They won’t.
Humans aren’t going to come to a uniform answer. The answer is out there though. As I said earlier in this thread, this supreme being would have to show Himself to us. We could never find Him without His help. Now the question is, which religion is an actual revelation, and which ones are lies?
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I say none are revelations. People have stressed and obsessed over the Bible to the point where mankind makes it a self-fulfilling prophecy with empty promises. :ehh:
 
Blade_and_Blood said:
You’re right; Afterlife doesn’t exist. :hmmm: But, who ever said any god from any culture wrote to someone.
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10 Commandments in stone - lightening - then the people requested God not speak to them because it frightened them so He said ok, and said He would send prophets and if what they said didnt come true, then not to fear them.

O yea, there was a time God did speak to man…but since they feared Him nearly to death [due to sin] He said He wouldnt speak to them. [exception in the person of the Son - the Word was made flesh]

O yea, God became like you so He could understand you as flesh and love you enough to die for you.

SO take some advice, ask God with a genuine desire to know Him and see what happens.

Ciao.
 
Blade_and_Blood said:
I say none are revelations. People have stressed and obsessed over the Bible to the point where mankind makes it a self-fulfilling prophecy with empty promises. :ehh:
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LOL, ha ha ha. Ever heard of the problem of pride? Most people will try to distort everything to suit themselves. You have to learn to look beyond the fact that falsehoods exist and find the Truth. It isn’t an easy path, but it may be imperative.
 
WarriorAngel said:
10 Commandments in stone - lightening - then the people requested God not speak to them because it frightened them so He said ok, and said He would send prophets and if what they said didnt come true, then not to fear them.

O yea, there was a time God did speak to man…but since they feared Him nearly to death [due to sin] He said He wouldnt speak to them. [exception in the person of the Son - the Word was made flesh]

O yea, God became like you so He could understand you as flesh and love you enough to die for you.

SO take some advice, ask God with a genuine desire to know Him and see what happens.

Ciao.
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:heaven: Ahh… I remember doing that when I had my imaginary friend. Good times… good times… :yup:
 
Blade_and_Blood said:
I’m Agnostic; you do know I’m kidding, right? :o
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Yes, but that doesn’t let you off the hook. You still fail to explain what caused initial intelligence in the universe. You can tell me it arose naturally all you want, but it isn’t sufficient. The law of causality still stands.
 
Veritas248 said:
LOL, ha ha ha. Ever heard of the problem of pride? Most people will try to distort everything to suit themselves. You have to learn to look beyond the fact that falsehoods exist and find the Truth. It isn’t an easy path, but it may be imperative.
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Oh, I found the closest I could get to Truth, but, boy, was it ugly! :eek: But, I’ve learned to deal with it and make the best of it, and, now, it has set me free! 🙂
 
phantasm said:
No. There are a lot of brands to choose from though. 👍
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Yes there are. It takes faith to believe in any of them, but it also takes faith to not believe. So, why don’t you believe in a god? Is it because it is not likely or provable or what?

To be fair, I don’t know exactly why I do believe in God. I believe in God and Catholic doctrine without any real doubts. That wasn’t always the case, and I certainly tried to not believe, but I always felt that tap on my shoulder pulling me back towards belief. I really tried to not be a Catholic and was extremely anti-Catholic for a long time, but then I studied Christian history. Maybe I believe in God because if He does exist, the consequence of disbelief is too severe, maybe I’m somewhat of a “just in case” Catholic. That wouldn’t explain why I practice my religion, prayer life, spiritual reading, etc, but maybe that is part of it. I don’t know. What I do know is that if God doesn’t exist, my beliefs and yours are inconsequential.

Why Christianity or the Christian God? I’m sure much of it is the way I was brought up. I didn’t grow up as a Hindu or Muslim or whatever else. I grew up as a Christian. That being said, I’ve read most of the Qu’ran and it didn’t take. It is an act of faith to believe anything.
 
Veritas248 said:
Yes, but that doesn’t let you off the hook. You still fail to explain what caused initial intelligence in the universe. You can tell me it arose naturally all you want, but it isn’t sufficient. The law of causality still stands.
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Of course it doesn’t. You’ve got it easy: All you have to say is, “God did it.” and that’s it. That’s not sufficient for me because, for the most part, I don’t believe in God, and existence is highly unlikely to me and in general.
 
Blade_and_Blood said:
Oh, I found the closest I could get to Truth, but, boy, was it ugly! :eek: But, I’ve learned to deal with it and make the best of it, and, now, it has set me free! 🙂
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No. It has limited your thoughts. Agnosticism is a claim that we have no knowledge when in fact we do. You need to keep looking.
 
Blade_and_Blood said:
Of course it doesn’t. You’ve got it easy: All you have to say is, “God did it.” and that’s it. That’s not sufficient for me because, for the most part, I don’t believe in God, and existence is highly unlikely to me and in general.
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You think I simply accept the hows without researching the whys? You don’t know me very well, do you?
Highly unlikely? Nice joke. There isn’t any reason to believe that.
If you deny God, a sufficient alternate explanation is required. What is yours?
 
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