Atlanta Police Walk Out

[josie_L]

I was pretty sheltered too, but I came into my work a little later in life, and it took a few years before I saw a great many issues within the school system and the culture in which it functioned.

Working with special needs children opens your eyes to a lot of things.

 

[meltzerboy2]

This is not a recent phenomenon. In my lifetime, I have seen its origins in the 1960’s. The baby boomer generation, for all its ideals, initiated mass revolution against all kinds of authority.

 

[Hume]

I was pretty sheltered too, but I came into my work a little later in life, and it took a few years before I saw a great many issues within the school system and the culture in which it functioned.

Working with special needs children opens your eyes to a lot of things.

It’s a tough deal. Have one undergoing that very challenge.

The private schools in my area send their special needs to the public schools for “in-school” therapies. They only have the resources for the best and brightest [Read: easiest].

Figured I’d skip the middle-man and send them to the local public school anyway. Worked out for me and my sibs.
YMMV

 

[Ender]

You go tell them that their view isn’t valid and see what they say.

The issue I raised isn’t about what people perceive the situation to be; it is about what the situation actually is. The data, as opposed to publicized anecdotes, shows that the perception of police as racists is incorrect.

 

[Hume]

Thbolt:

You go tell them that their view isn’t valid and see what they say.

The issue I raised isn’t about what people perceive the situation to be; it is about what the situation actually is. The data, as opposed to publicized anecdotes, shows that the perception of police as racists is incorrect.

Well… The data does show that a disproportionately high amount of police shootings involve black folks…

Looks potentially racist to me.

 

[josie_L]

I don’t doubt that the rebellion started back then (the baby boomers have much to atone for ), but when I went to school throughout the 80’s we feared authority and did not talk back so disrespectfully.

We also had corporal punishment to keep us in line.

My issue back then was that teachers were not questioned and my parents being immigrants were keen on authority no matter what the teacher did or how unethically she/he acted.

It was a case of the teacher was always right. Now, it’s a case of the teacher is “always” wrong.

I see a lot even amongst the children I work with that don’t understand the meaning of what authority is. There are few boundaries and those that are there are blurred.

I am strict but constant in loving the children, but whatever strategy I implement you have kids who bristle at any form of authority.

They expect you to respect them unconditionally without a thought of respecting you in return.

Note: What do you say to a boy who calls you fat and stupid and the principal a f&%kin Bi$ch?

 

[Hume]

Note: What do you say to a boy who calls you fat and stupid and the principal a f&%kin Bi$ch?

My mom taught school. A kid that does that is almost assured to have parents that largely don’t give a rip.

You find a way to positively reach the kid or he’ll become just another addition to all the bad social statistics we are supposed to try and curtail.

 

[Hume]

One kid spat in her face once.

She got the young girl involved in beauty pageants (the deviant was rather striking) and it became a vehicle for her to obtain greater exposure to the world and help improve her overall trajectory.

Mercy, grace and love will always be more difficult than wrath.

 

[pnewton]

Thank you for that fascinating graphic. I looked up the two I knew of. One was not a case of police violence. I do not know where the data is from. The other was. On the latter one, patrol car that the police were behind had six bullet holes aimed a them an a couple of shots in the concrete in front of them. You can’t get more self-defense-y than that.

Nonetheless, there are no doubt some that did not make the map. If nothing else, it dispels the idea that it is a Democrat issue.

 

[josie_L]

The kid is a bully of the first order and a spoiled brat, whose parents are divorced.

And call me crazy but when this 11 year old child starts attacking my special needs children or any other child he considers weak, mama bear comes out i.e., I become protective.

It is very hard to remain POSITIVE in a situation wherein nothing is done to protect the other children in a so-called zero tolerance for bullying zone.

Kids do lie, and then parents believe them, while principals do not act or are afraid to or don’t do enough as a way to compromise with parents and so therefore the problems continue.

 

[josie_L]

I had a kid almost strangle me in a fit of rage with my own scarf, so yes, I know what it’s like.

 

[josie_L]

No, actually it doesn’t. And what makes you think we were not being calm? And being “nice” doesn’t always work, i.e., they take advantage of nice.

The problem is that many of these kids think that saying sorry is a sufficient enough response for repeat offences, so when a consequence other than apologizing is implemented, they attack.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

My mom taught school. A kid that does that is almost assured to have parents that largely don’t give a rip.

I knew someone with a child like that. When the school called about the usual problems she said “between the hours of 8 and 4 he is your problem, I have other things to worry about.” I disassociated with the person quietly because of the apparent difference in ethics we had.

She wasn’t the only parent I knew that expressed that sentiment.

 

[josie_L]

I’m saying they became angered by the consequence, the consequence was not given when they were angry.

And certain children are emboldened to act this way because they see how often they can get away with it.

Watch and listen to this award-winning teacher recite her resignation letter before a panel/board because of a toxic work environment:

 

[Ender]

Well… The data does show that a disproportionately high amount of police shootings involve black folks…

There was a study published just last year in PNAS (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences) that found police use of force correlated not with race but with the rate of violent crime.

"We found that violent crime rates are the driving force behind fatal shootings,” Cesario said. “Our data show that the rate of crime by each racial group correlates with the likelihood of citizens from that racial group being shot."

Blacks disproportionately commit violent crimes, therefore (if this research is accurate) will be disproportionately (by population) shot by police. That is not evidence of racism.

Looks potentially racist to me .

I understand that, but this is an instance where looks are deceiving.

 

[josie_L]

Hellooooo, I just said we don’t give the consequence when they are angry. Didn’t you read my post??

I’m saying they became angered by the consequence, the consequence was not given when they were angry.

 

[josie_L]

You sound like a real nice person, you know the non-judgy type who doesn’t make assumptions about people he doesn’t know.

 

[josie_L]

You’re an adult you should know better.

 

[josie_L]

Except I never said that so he’s arguing against a straw man.

 

[josie_L]

You were rude actually, and intimated that I was an amateur despite the fact that it was your assumptions of me and my so-called grammar that caused you to believe we were issuing consequences while a child was angry.

I never ever implied such a thing you just assumed that was the case and when I tried to rectify your mistake you still blamed me for using improper grammar.