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from PR I hope, Servant, that you can see that if you argue for a position, using one sentence, I will do the same with your religious beliefs, using one sentence.
PR You know that the Baha’i belief is:
“All of the Prophets proclaim the same Faith.”

“This is the changeless Faith of God, eternal in the past, eternal in the future.”

While although within the context of language we speak of various “religions” for practical reasons, we believe that as there is only one God, there is in reality only one religion which has been progressively revealed to mankind throughout the course of history.

“As to thy question concerning the heavenly Scriptures: The All-Knowing Physician hath His finger on the pulse of mankind. He perceiveth the disease, and prescribeth, in His unerring wisdom, the remedy. Every age hath its own problem, and every soul its particular aspiration. The remedy the world needeth in its present-day afflictions can never be the same as that which a subsequent age may require. Be anxiously concerned with the needs of the age ye live in, and centre your deliberations on its exigencies and requirements.”

You may wish to read this: Tablet to Mánikchí Ṣáḥib (Lawḥ-i-Mánikchí-Ṣáḥib) He was a Zoroastrian

reference.bahai.org/en/t/b/TU/tu-3.html
 
PR You know that the Baha’i belief is:

“All of the Prophets proclaim the same Faith.”

“This is the changeless Faith of God, eternal in the past, eternal in the future.”

While although within the context of language we speak of various “religions” for practical reasons, we believe that as there is only one God, there is in reality only one religion which has been progressively revealed to mankind throughout the course of history.
But we do not have the same religion. That is why you are called Baha’i and we are called Catholic. To make this distinction, considering the differences in belief, is both reasonable and proper and there is no need feel that we must, in the face of conflicting beliefs, pretend that we are somehow united in one religion.

We believe that the revelation of God to mankind was fulfilled and completed in the person of Jesus Christ, God’s only Word. The truth found in other religions, including the Baha’i, finds its fullness, then, only in Christianity which is that “one religion” of which you speak; the only religion who’s founder is God himself; Jesus Christ. Where we would agree is that any and all truth found in any religion is from God because God is truth.

God bless.
 
Isn’t this very similar if not the same point many Protestants raise against the Catholic Church regarding Sola scriptura? That just because something in the Bible is difficult to accept literally, the Church decides it is parable?
Im sure some Christians do, they have their reasons but in terms of the text we are speaking about I have no idea how one can determine this part to be a parable. Indeed the funny thing is, every miracle, every time a prophet who was supposed to be a manifestaiton for the bahai is said to have sinned, every time there is something which is against bahai interpretation its just dismissed as a parable. Why is this specific narrative to be considered a parable as opposed to the Israelites being lead out of egypt? The bahai would likely say the israelites made boats and made bread in the desert because miracles are a no no.
 
Wow that was well said!

Erik

QUOTE=daler;10942350]>>>>> Exactly. Either the myths of the Bible are literal truths, or metaphorical symbols. It is our understanding which is being tested, whether Christian or Lakota.

What are these “stories” we have been told. Are they merely accounts of “magic”? Are the Prophets magicians? or Divine Physicians, sent to heal an ailing humanity by setting them on the path of Truth…

How, then, shall we interpret our myths? Shall they be consistent with Reality, or superstition…

Are we permitted rational explanations of the stories we have been handed, or are we to dutifully submit to irrational absurdities for the sake of conformity and the dictates of those who would keep us captive to their positions of control over our minds and beliefs…

Am I free to question the literal interpretation of the Resurrection and permit my mind to retain its sanity when a physical journey into outer space (heaven) is completely illogical, particularly in light of Jesus own description of Heaven not being a physical place, i.e,

“And no man has ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.”

For we know that Jesus was upon the earth when He said this, and that He was born from the womb of Mary. Hence, Heaven is a spiritual reality, not a physical geography. Thus, when He ascends to Heaven, He returns to the Unseen Realm, and not to some place in outer space, which confines Him to a narrow place for the sake of our own limited understanding of the Reality of Heaven.

So if we are indeed to “meet Him in the air” i.e., “heaven”, it is not a physical place in outer space where the rendezvous takes place, but a spiritual journey of our heart.

“O SON OF BEING!
Thy heart is My home; sanctify it for My descent. Thy spirit is My place of revelation; cleanse it for My manifestation” from the Hidden Words of Baha’u’llah
 
I am not following your argument here, mek Could you please explain further what it is you mean by Protestants raising a point against Catholicism regarding Sola Scriptura?
In your earlier post you asked why the Bahai was, seemingly arbitrarily, deciding that some parts of a Biblical account were metaphor and some history. My point is that I do believe this exact same charge is aimed at Catholicism from certain Protestant faiths. I may have misused the term Sola scriptura. Apologies if I did.
 
Hi Steve & all,

As a Christian and Bah’i now I agree they are not the same reliion, but there are many paraells between the two faiths. No one is asking anyone to pretend to be anything, but to investigate beyond the beliefs and understandings of our ancestors that we may learn God’s message for OUR AGE. Jesus spoke to humanity 2,000 years ago, and please know I accept his truth as much today. I am a Christian and a Baha’i, and YES you can be both at least according to the Baha’i faith you can!

I would ask if you know of anywhere that Christ himself said what you speak of. That he was the ONLY speaker of word of God? What then would be say of Moses - he who spoke directly to God? It’s interesting in that the Jews rejected Jesus because he did not meet their expectations of fulfilling prophecy, yet now many Catholics & Christans and reject Baha’u’llah because he oo does not meet the exact and literal Christian view of the return of Christ. Christ has come again in spirit, and he did so through Baha’u’llah! Investigate with an open mind and you WILL find truth in his word. Try Thief in the night or The Wine of Ashtonishment and let me know your thoughts.

Erik
But we do not have the same religion. That is why you are called Baha’i and we are called Catholic. To make this distinction, considering the differences in belief, is both reasonable and proper and there is no need feel that we must, in the face of conflicting beliefs, pretend that we are somehow united in one religion.

We believe that the revelation of God to mankind was fulfilled and completed in the person of Jesus Christ, God’s only Word. The truth found in other religions, including the Baha’i, finds its fullness, then, only in Christianity which is that “one religion” of which you speak; the only religion who’s founder is God himself; Jesus Christ. Where we would agree is that any and all truth found in any religion is from God because God is truth.

God bless.
 
But we do not have the same religion. That is why you are called Baha’i and we are called Catholic. To make this distinction, considering the differences in belief, is both reasonable and proper and there is no need feel that we must, in the face of conflicting beliefs, pretend that we are somehow united in one religion.

We believe that the revelation of God to mankind was fulfilled and completed in the person of Jesus Christ, God’s only Word. The truth found in other religions, including the Baha’i, finds its fullness, then, only in Christianity which is that “one religion” of which you speak; the only religion who’s founder is God himself; Jesus Christ. Where we would agree is that any and all truth found in any religion is from God because God is truth.

God bless.
To my brother in Christ. Which brings us to the Second Coming, and the continuation of the religion of Jesus the Christ.
Now here is where the rubber hits the road, for when Jesus, the promised Messiah came to the Jewish people 2,000 years ago, most turned away from the religion of Christ, which was in reality the religion of Moses and the that of the God of Abraham.
Please forgive me in that I do not mean to imply that we cannot or must not use the distinctive term “religion” in reference to our varied understandings. We must, or we end up tripping over our own tongues.
The intention, then, is to ascertain whether, for example, the religion of Abraham was indeed the religion of Moses, and later Jesus, which the Jews deny. Similarly, the Muslims speak of Abraham as “Muslim”, for Islam is submission to the God of Abraham, and they view everyone as “people of the Book”
So it is a big question, one deserving of every ounce of “Come, let us reason together”, and not so easily dismissed as, say, the Moonies and a host of other pretenders throughout the ages.
When I, born into the Christian Faith say to you, another Christian, that I “believe” that He has returned, I do not speak of the self-same physical person of Jesus, son of Mary, for that identity is unique. But the One for whom we wait, I no longer wait, and it would be improper of me to deny that which I believe to have already occurred, even as it would be wrong for Paul to say to his fellow Jews, the Messiah has not come, when indeed, He had.
All we have is our testimony and the evidence we can produce.
 
You might be interested in the following…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahai_prophecies
Yes, I’ve read them, but none of them could not have been formed by someone who was informed about the situations. For example, when Bill Clinton became President, I “predicted” to people that he would become a centrist and be exposed as an adulterer. The former in 1995 happened after the Republicans picked up seats in Congress and the former in 1998 with the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Am I a prophet? No, I just had information and was able to make a correct “guess,” if one can call it that, about what would happen and I’ll admit I’m bad at understanding people. It’s information that is key here. The predictions about World War I & II have been done by other people (such as Bismark and Foch as I posted) as with the rise of communism (Winston Churchill- “Bolshevism must be strangled in its cradle”). I’m unable to comment on the Ottoman Empire ones as I have limited information on it.
 
In your earlier post you asked why the Bahai was, seemingly arbitrarily, deciding that some parts of a Biblical account were metaphor and some history. My point is that I do believe this exact same charge is aimed at Catholicism from certain Protestant faiths. I may have misused the term Sola scriptura. Apologies if I did.
I think the response Catholics give is that we understand the Bible through the guidance of the Church which gave us this Bible. We submit to the authority of the Church, which discerns when something is metaphorical, symbolic, literal, or all of the above.

Protestants reject this Church authority (yet, peculiarly, submit to the Church’s authority when it comes to declaring what writings belong in the Bible).

Do the Baha’is have an authority that tells you when something is literal or when something is metaphorical?
 
Do the Baha’is have an authority that tells you when something is literal or when something is metaphorical?
Inasmuch as the heavenly books were sealed unto those who revealed them until the time of the end, the meanings of these metaphorical utterances have continued to be closed to the eyes of men, housed in the shell of mystery, until such time as the Lord Himself should reveal their hidden truths, that men might know of their own ignorance, incapacity, and powerlessness to penetrate the divine utterances until the King of Utterance should disclose to all in plain and simple terms:

"Say: O people! The Tree of Life hath verily been planted in the heart of the heavenly paradise and bestoweth life in every direction. How can ye fail to perceive and recognize it? It will in truth aid thee to grasp all that this well-assured Soul hath disclosed unto thee of the essence of the divine mysteries. The Dove of holiness warbleth in the heaven of immortality and admonisheth thee to array thyself with a new vesture, wrought of steel to shield thee from the shafts of doubt concealed in the allusions of men, saying: “Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, ye must be born again.”

Wing then thy flight unto this divine Tree and partake of its fruits. Gather up that which hath fallen therefrom and guard it faithfully. Meditate then upon the utterance of one of the Prophets as He intimated to the souls of men, through veiled allusions and hidden symbols, the glad-tidings of the One Who was to come after Him, that thou mayest know of a certainty that their words are inscrutable to all save those who are endued with an understanding heart. He saith: “His eyes were as a flame of fire”, and “brass-like were His feet”, and “out of His mouth goeth a two-edged sword”. How could these words be literally interpreted? Were anyone to appear with all these signs, he would assuredly not be human. And how could any soul seek his company? Nay, should he appear in one city, even the inhabitants of the next would flee from him, nor would any soul dare approach him! Yet, shouldst thou reflect upon these statements, thou wouldst find them to be of such surpassing eloquence and clarity as to mark the loftiest heights of utterance and the epitome of wisdom. Methinks it is from them that the suns of eloquence have appeared and the stars of clarity have dawned forth and shone resplendent.

Behold, then, the foolish ones of bygone times and those who, in this day, await the advent of such a being! Nor would they ever bear allegiance unto him except that he appear in the aforementioned form. And as such a being will never appear, so too will they never believe. Such indeed is the measure of the understanding of these perverse and ungodly souls! How could those who fail to understand the most evident of the evident and the most manifest of the manifest ever apprehend the abstruse realities of the divine precepts and the essence of the mysteries of His everlasting wisdom?

I shall now briefly explain the true meaning of this utterance, that thou mayest discover its hidden mysteries and be of them that perceive. Examine then and judge aright that which We shall reveal unto thee, that haply thou mayest be accounted in the sight of God amongst those who are fair-minded in these matters.

continued…
 
Do the Baha’is have an authority that tells you when something is literal or when something is metaphorical?

continuation:

Know then that He who uttered these words in the realms of glory meant to describe the attributes of the One Who is to come in such veiled and enigmatic terms as to elude the understanding of the people of error. Now, when He saith: “His eyes were as a flame of fire”, He alludeth but to the keenness of sight and acuteness of vision of the Promised One, Who with His eyes burneth away every veil and covering, maketh known the eternal mysteries in the contingent world, and distinguisheth the faces that are obscured with the dust of hell from those that shine with the light of paradise. Were His eyes not made of the blazing fire of God, how could He consume every veil and burn away all that the people possess? How could He behold the signs of God in the Kingdom of His names and in the world of creation? How could He see all things with the all-perceiving eye of God? Thus have we conferred upon Him a penetrating vision in this day. Would that ye believe in the verses of God! For, indeed, what fire is fiercer than this flame that shineth in the Sinai of His eyes, whereby He consumeth all that hath veiled the peoples of the world? Immeasurably exalted shall God remain above all that hath been revealed in His unerring Tablets concerning the mysteries of the beginning and the end until that day when the Crier will cry out, the day whereon we shall all return unto Him.

As to the words “brass-like were His feet”, by this is meant His constancy upon hearing the call of God that commandeth Him: “Be thou steadfast as thou hast been bidden.” He shall so persevere in the Cause of God, and evince such firmness in the path of His might, that even if all the powers of earth and heaven were to deny Him, He would not waver in the proclamation of His Cause, nor flee from His command in the promulgation of His Laws. Nay rather, He will stand as firm as the highest mountains and the loftiest peaks. He will remain immovable in His obedience to God and steadfast in revealing His Cause and proclaiming His Word. No obstacle will hinder Him, nor will the censure of the froward deter Him or the repudiation of the infidels cause Him to waver. All the hatred, the rejection, the iniquity, and the unbelief that He witnesseth serve but to strengthen His love for God, to augment the yearning of His heart, to heighten the exultation of His soul, and to fill His breast with passionate devotion. Hast thou ever seen in this world brass stronger, or blade sharper, or mountain more unyielding than this? He shall verily stand upon His feet to confront all the inhabitants of the earth, and will fear no one, notwithstanding that which, as thou well knowest, the people are wont to commit. Glory be to God, Who hath established Him and called Him forth! Potent is God to do what He pleaseth. He, in truth, is the Help in Peril, the Self-Subsisting.

And further He saith: “Out of his mouth goeth a two-edged sword.” Know thou that since the sword is an instrument that divideth and cleaveth asunder, and since there proceedeth from the mouth of the Prophets and the Chosen Ones of God that which separateth the believer from the infidel and the lover from the beloved, this term hath been so employed, and apart from this dividing and separating no other meaning is intended. Thus, when He Who is the Primal Point and the eternal Sun desireth, by the leave of God, to gather together all creation, to raise them up from the graves of their own selves, and to divide them one from another, He shall pronounce but one verse from Him, and this verse will distinguish truth from error from this day unto the Day of Resurrection. What sword is sharper than this heavenly sword, what blade more trenchant than this incorruptible steel that severeth every tie and separateth thereby the believer from the infidel, father from son, brother from sister, and lover from beloved? For whoso believeth in that which hath been revealed unto him is a true believer and whoso turneth away is an infidel, and such an irrevocable separation occurreth between them that they will cease to consort and associate with each other in this world. And so it is between father and son, for should the son believe and the father deny, they will be severed and forever dissociated from each other. Nay rather, thou witnesseth how the son slayeth the father and the father the son. Consider in the same light all that We have explained and related unto thee.
Wert thou to behold all things with the eye of discernment, thou wouldst indeed see that this divine sword doth cleave asunder generations. Would that ye could understand it! All this is by virtue of the word of separation that is manifested on the Day of Judgement and Separation, were the people to take heed in the days of their Lord. Nay, couldst thou but sharpen thy sight and refine thy heart, thou wouldst witness that all the material swords which in every day and age have slain the infidels and waged war against the impious proceed from this divine and invisible sword. Open then thine eyes, that thou mayest behold all that We have revealed to thee and attain unto that which none other hath attained. We verily exclaim: “Praise be to God, He Who is the Lord of the Day of Reckoning!”

Yea, inasmuch as these people have failed to acquire true knowledge from its source and wellspring, and from the ocean of fresh and soft-flowing waters that stream, by the leave of God, through hearts that are pure and stainless, they have been veiled from that which God hath intended by those words and allusions and have remained confined within the prison of their own selves."

Baha’u’llah
 
Hi Steve & all,

As a Christian and Bah’i now I agree they are not the same reliion, but there are many paraells between the two faiths. No one is asking anyone to pretend to be anything, but to investigate beyond the beliefs and understandings of our ancestors that we may learn God’s message for OUR AGE. Jesus spoke to humanity 2,000 years ago, and please know I accept his truth as much today. I am a Christian and a Baha’i, and YES you can be both at least according to the Baha’i faith you can!

I would ask if you know of anywhere that Christ himself said what you speak of. That he was the ONLY speaker of word of God? What then would be say of Moses - he who spoke directly to God? It’s interesting in that the Jews rejected Jesus because he did not meet their expectations of fulfilling prophecy, yet now many Catholics & Christans and reject Baha’u’llah because he oo does not meet the exact and literal Christian view of the return of Christ. Christ has come again in spirit, and he did so through Baha’u’llah! Investigate with an open mind and you WILL find truth in his word. Try Thief in the night or The Wine of Ashtonishment and let me know your thoughts.

Erik
You cannot be both. Since you are bahai you have neglected Jesus as the only source of salvation. To you Mirza Hussain is an equal fountain of salvation, he is now the mediator between God and man. You have abandoned everything Christian, the bible the teachings of the fathers and etc. Please stop insulting catholics by receiving communion and stop insulting Christians by calling yourself a Christian.

If you say you can have your bahai theology and still be Christian, show me the Christians who adhered to bahai theology before bahai.
 
My point is that he cannot really argue for his interpretation of our Pope’s statement, taken out of context, without allowing me to argue for my interpretation of your holy text’s writings, taken out of context.

I hope, Servant, that you can see that if you argue for a position, using one sentence, I will do the same with your religious beliefs, using one sentence.
I did understand that, and I agree with your point. Absurd things can be “proved” by ripping quotes out of their literary context, and their context in the life and understanding of the community.
 
Hi PR, I know that this is not Catholic theology.

As I have told you already, believe me or not, I kid you not, but there are a lot of atheists I talk to that find the Popes remarks anti-Catholic, fanning further the flame of rejection against the Pope.

Again, “I” am not making these statements. An atheist reading that article on the official Catholic website will have the wrong understanding.

I can give you the link to another forum where Catholic university graduates also now claim that atheists have found a way to salvation with this new announcement from the Pope. So it is confusing Catholics too

Confusion ensues…

Again, I say that it is baffling…

Relating it to Bahai quotes is unfair in my opinion. The quote you provided is in a book and effective context is provided. The Papal quotes given in the article were not further clarified at all.
 
But how is it that you know that Jesus is your savior? Where do you get that information from?

Perhaps you get that from your pastor, whom you believe.

But where did your pastor get the belief that Jesus is our savior from?
I’m a bit confused by your question. I was brought up as a Catholic to believe that Jesus died for all of us so that our sins may be forgiven and so we may gain everlasting life in heaven. In that regard I consider him all of humanity’s savior.

Would you prefer I use a different word to describe him?
 
I’m a bit confused by your question. I was brought up as a Catholic to believe that Jesus died for all of us so that our sins may be forgiven and so we may gain everlasting life in heaven. In that regard I consider him all of humanity’s savior.

Would you prefer I use a different word to describe him?
I am not objecting to your use of the word “savior”. I am just wondering how you know that Jesus is your savior. You initially said that you reject Catholic doctrine (at least, some of it). Jesus being our savior is, indeed, a Catholic doctrine.

So if you reject Catholic doctrine, how do you know that Jesus is your savior?
 
You cannot be both. Since you are bahai you have neglected Jesus as the only source of salvation. To you Mirza Hussain is an equal fountain of salvation, he is now the mediator between God and man. You have abandoned everything Christian, the bible the teachings of the fathers and etc. Please stop insulting catholics by receiving communion and stop insulting Christians by calling yourself a Christian.

If you say you can have your bahai theology and still be Christian, show me the Christians who adhered to bahai theology before bahai.
IgnatianPhilo - Who are you to say what my spirit and heart chooses to be or not to be? Is it Catholic doctrine that says I cannot be both? I understand that Catholic doctrine may say that, but I have always taken issue with many Catholic doctrine. Because I believe Baha’u’llah’s message does NOT mean I have neglected Jesus. I still study my Bible so I in no way have rejected Jesus or the Bible. If you take insult in my actions, then I pray you will forgive me as I intend no harm to anyone. I am a Christian who is also a Baha’i. The message of each is most important. Believing and learning and finding a better relationship with God is more important is it not?

Please tell me why (without study) would you reject a positive message that expands upon Jesus’ and the other prophets’ message and explains the sacred scriptures as Jesus told us would happen?
 
IgnatianPhilo - Who are you to say what my spirit and heart chooses to be or not to be? Is it Catholic doctrine that says I cannot be both?
Actually, it is the principle of non-contradiction that says you cannot be both.

Truth is what we all seek, ChristianBahai. And 2 contradictory things cannot both be true at the same time.

So, either, for example, the pope is the vicar of Christ or he is not the vicar of Christ. Both cannot be true at the same time.

Divorce and re-marriage is either adultery, or it is not adultery. Both cannot be true at the same time.

So to the degree that what you believe as a Baha’i that is in contradiction with Catholicism is the degree that you cannot be both.
 
It is interesting that the issue has come up brought by Christian Baha’i above…

I was looking back at some of the Baha’i sources on the subject and so would like to add these as a background…

The distinction between them is only one of the calendar – 1911, 1912, etc. The difference between a Christian and a Bahá’í therefore is this; there was a former Springtime and there is a Springtime now. No other difference exists because the foundations are the same. Whoever acts completely in accordance with the teachings of Christ is a Bahá’í. The purpose is the essential meaning of “Christian,” not the mere word.

Attributed to Abdul-Baha in 1912

Were you to enter any Bahá’í gathering of the East, it would be difficult to tell who is Christian, who is Jew – they are like so many flames that have been one mighty flame. All these separate channels, thanks to Bahá’u’lláh, are converging into one world-stream!

Attributed to Abdul-Baha

~ Compilations, Baha’i Scriptures,

As a rule though today… Most Baha’is are not formal members of churches and this is largely because we do not share the same doctrines…

Bahá’ís are not permitted, however, to be members of certain secret societies, of the religious organizations of other Faiths, of political organizations or, of course, of organizations whose goals are in conflict with the Bahá’í principles. For example, Bahá’ís would gladly work together with Christians in humanitarian activities, but a Bahá’í, believing in Bahá’u’lláh, cannot be a member of a Christian church which believes that Christ has not yet returned.
(The Universal House of Justice, 1993 Feb 14, Membership in Amnesty International)
 
IgnatianPhilo - Who are you to say what my spirit and heart chooses to be or not to be? Is it Catholic doctrine that says I cannot be both? I understand that Catholic doctrine may say that, but I have always taken issue with many Catholic doctrine. Because I believe Baha’u’llah’s message does NOT mean I have neglected Jesus. I still study my Bible so I in no way have rejected Jesus or the Bible. If you take insult in my actions, then I pray you will forgive me as I intend no harm to anyone. I am a Christian who is also a Baha’i. The message of each is most important. Believing and learning and finding a better relationship with God is more important is it not?

Please tell me why (without study) would you reject a positive message that expands upon Jesus’ and the other prophets’ message and explains the sacred scriptures as Jesus told us would happen?
First of all, I have my ideas as to why I reject bahai. Would you like to discuss them? Would you like to see the reasons i reject the false prophet Mirza Hussain? Bahai hear them and often don’t have an answer for them, so don’t say I don’t study or imply I do not have a reason so as to reject the false persian prophet HUssain.

Now what is a Christian? Is there a definition to this word? Obviously you are not using the word Christian in the sense that Christians themselves are using it, but in a bland and very general sense to describe some sort of vague belief. That is the Christian to you is someone who believes Jesus is the saviour, in which case you are no more Christian than the gnostic, the arrian, the Paulianist, the Eunomonians, the Docetist, the Christadelphian and the abortion accepting-homosexual marraige accepting fake Catholic polititicians.Basically you have made the word of no consequence, there is no real meaning to the word in the way you use it, it just makes you feel good, that you have some continuity with what you have abandoned.

You have abandoned how Christians be it oRthodox, Catholic, Oriental conservative Lutheran, Conservative anglican or indeed most protestants use the term. That is belief in the trinity, belief in the real ressurection of Jesus Christ, belief that Christ is the ONLY mediator between God and man. this is how we use the term Christian, this is why I say you are not a Christian, in any meaningful way. IN a bland non descriptive way that would only confuse a person if you were to bring it up.

“I’m a Christian too!”

“Would you like to confess the Nicene creed with me then?”

“I’m not that kind of Christian.”

“Then what kind of CHristian are you.”

“Well I believe in Bahai.”

“And you reject the trinity, the ressurection of Christ right?”

“No I believe in those things!”

“So you will worship CHrist with me as i worship the Holy trinity right?”

“No I cannot do that because Christ is not actually God.”

“But you said you believe in the trinity”

“I believe in a different trinity.”

Thats basically what you are doing, taking commonly accepted words and redefining them in an attempt to fit in. Acknowledge yourself as a bahai and don’t confuse people by saying your a Christian when you reject all aspects of a 2000 year old, well defined theology.
 
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