Bahá'í

[IgnatianPhilo]

Give it time and there will be schisms. Certaintly in a thousand years when the bahai have an expectation of a new prophet there will be all fake prophets claiming to be manifestations and bahais will have to make their choice as to whom they believe. Some will go and some will remain.

The thing is, schisms usually take place over dissagreements and when bahai theology has something important it needs to tackle. For instance some bahai are saying Jesus was literally the same person as Mirza Hussain. That it was Mirza Hussain that walked on earth 2000 years ago in a different body. But other bahai deny this.

 

[daler]

Give it time and there will be schisms. Certaintly in a thousand years when the bahai have an expectation of a new prophet there will be all fake prophets claiming to be manifestations and bahais will have to make their choice as to whom they believe. Some will go and some will remain.

The thing is, schisms usually take place over dissagreements and when bahai theology has something important it needs to tackle. For instance some bahai are saying Jesus was literally the same person as Mirza Hussain. That it was Mirza Hussain that walked on earth 2000 years ago in a different body. But other bahai deny this.

As sufficient explanation for both the individual human identity, i.e., Moses, Jesus, Baha’u’llah unique in their physical identity descriptions, DNA, etc, There is a previously well stated quotation from the One Single Eternal Manifestation of God Who appears from age to age, even as, from another religious prophetic utterance so clearly concurs:

“Whenever there is decay of righteousness… and there is exaltation of unrighteousness,
then I Myself come forth… for the destruction of evil-doers, for the sake of firmly establishing
righteousness, I am born from age to age.” — KRISHNA- Bhagavad Gita- fourth discourse

Hindus are awaiting the coming of the Kalki Avatar at the end of this present age, Kalki Yuga (Dark or Iron Age). Baha’is believe that the Kalki Yuga age has already ended and, as promised in the Bhagavad Gita, the Lord has again manifested Himself to humanity… this time with the name Baha’u’llah. Baha’u’llah is the Kalki Avatar.

Numerous other prophecies which point to the same Promised One of All Religions expected follows:

bci.org/prophecy-fulfilled/

 

[IgnatianPhilo]

Well Jesus wasn’t Krishna and he didn’t teach us about the Karmic cycle of birth and rebirth. But it is only inevitable that you will split apart be it sooner or later. Someone won’t stand for a certain bahai belief and the lines will be drawn and definitions will be made clear.

 

[Servant19]

Well Jesus wasn’t Krishna and he didn’t teach us about the Karmic cycle of birth and rebirth. But it is only inevitable that you will split apart be it sooner or later. Someone won’t stand for a certain bahai belief and the lines will be drawn and definitions will be made clear.

Yes Ignatian, Obama is not Theodore Roosevelt either

Different times, different policies, but both American Presidents though, and guided the US towards a purpose…

 

[PRmerger]

No, you would not be off target. We are incredibly attached, not to the Lamp, but to the Lamb; the Person of Jesus Christ. The reason for this is that we believe Jesus to be the Light, not the lamp. He is “the light of the world”, not the lamp of the world.

Wow. Pithy. Witty. Trenchant. Insightful. 100% correct.

:clapping:

:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

 

[PRmerger]

Thanks PR, but I don’t play philosophical jiggery pokery

100% of 100% = 5

Well, I think you understood that you were refuting your own position when you said that “no one can be 100% certain” while being 100% certain (in your own mind) that what you were saying was true.

Maybe your definition of “essence” is different to mine, but in the context of defining the “essence” of God, you had the same definition as me.

You seem to think that when someone says that she understands the essence of something, that this means that she has utter, complete, 100% understanding of it.

Not the case.

To wit: I can say that I understand the essence of my husband, but that ought not to be confused with my saying that I have utter, complete, 100% understanding of him.

So why does your definition of “essence” change when it comes to defining marriage?

It hasn’t.

Tell me, what is the “essence of marriage”? In your own words please…

I couldn’t do that any more than I could describe the essence of my husband to you.

However, if I had to pin it down to one sentence it would be: the two shall become one, if Christ is this one.

 

[Servant19]

Aquinas said that the ontological argument to prove Gods existence is fruitless since no one knows the essence of God.

What do you think that means PR? Especially in terms of the word “essence”?

 

[Gidge]

A close friend is Bahá’í and was born in Iran to a Bahá’í family they told me they are required to learn about all world religions so I gave them the address to this web site. They currently go to a catholic church to pray because it doors are open all day and peaceful.

Well done in planting a seed of faith.

 

[SteveVH]

My sense of what you are saying is that in the case of Jesus, The Lamp of God was smashed in a failed attempt to put out the Light being shed. It is also correct to say that this Lamp was a sacrificial Lamb, whose blood was shed for us.

Your analogy wrongly assumes that Christ is simply a vessel possessed by God, as if we could separate his divinity from his humanity.

What is particularly challenging for many Christians is the fear that the Divine Station of this Lamb is somehow lessened when other Lamps, all sent and lighted by the same Hand of God, are recognized.

No, this is not our fear. We have been warned in our Sacred Scriptures: “But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a Gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!”. The fact that Baha’u’lah claims to be God; claims to be equal to Jesus Christ, is a pretty good clue that “another Gospel” is being preached.

And I would turn this right around and say that what is particularly challenging for Baha’is are Christ’s own words: “I am the Truth, the Way and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” (John 14:6)

Don’t take this in the wrong way please, but it is similar to the child’s perspective of his/her own particular father, or mother. We see “our” father as an extension of ourselves and become defensive, as though if “I” am not the “special” child, or singled out as one of the “chosen ones”, then we ourselves are diminished.

Which is the “right” way to take this comment? Your words presuppose that our rejection of non-Christian faiths is born out of fear and jealousy rather than revealed truth from almighty God. It also presupposes that all religions are equal (just as all children are equal) in possessing and disseminating truth. I would disagree with both of these presuppositions.

In the Baha’i view, regarding God, “He doeth what He willeth”. The following quote should establish the perspective more clearly:

"These sanctified Mirrors, these Day Springs of ancient glory, are, one and all, the Exponents on earth of Him Who is the central Orb of the universe, its Essence and ultimate Purpose.

Then why do they disagree with each other? You would not find Abraham or Moses or Isaiah or the Apostles or Paul agreeing with the tenants of your faith. Christ was the final and complete revelation. As the Apostles said “To whom shall we go? You have the words of everlasting life”.

These attributes of God are not, and have never been, vouchsafed specially unto certain Prophets, and withheld from others. Nay, all the Prophets of God, His well-favored, His holy and chosen Messengers are, without exception, the bearers of His names, and the embodiments of His attributes. They only differ in the intensity of their revelation, and the comparative potency of their light. Even as He hath revealed: “Some of the Apostles We have caused to excel the others.”

And once again we have Jesus diminished to the status of “prophet” rather than “Savior of the world”. He just shined a little brighter than most.

 

[SteveVH]

You may be unfamilar with our Writings…

As to those souls who are born into this life as ethereal and radiant entities and yet, on account of their handicaps and trials, are deprived of great and real advantages, and leave the world without having lived to the full – certainly this is a cause for grieving. This is the reason why the universal Manifestations of God unveil Their countenances to man, and endure every calamity and sore affliction, and lay down Their lives as a ransom;

Please tell me, which of these “Manifistations of God” laid down their lives for the salvation of the world? Which of them laid down their lives as a ransom?
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I think the distinction here maybe that for you many churches have decided creeds that are repeated over and over over centuries of time…

Yes. This is based upon the fact that Truth never changes; that truth is not relative. The Catholic Church does not bring new revelation to the world. Rather it guards and defends the deposit of divine revelation given to the Apostles by Christ himself, the fulfillment of all revelation. We need not look any further. Therefore it is appropriate to make a statement of beliefs for all generations in order to convey this eternal Truth and protect it from error.

 

[SteveVH]

Hi Steve, thankyou for your thoughts.

In all senses of the words “He is the light of the world” Baha’is feel the same way about Baha’u’llah

If Christ is the “light of the world” then why do you look to Baha’u’lah? Do we need another light when the sun is shinning? Is Christ not sufficient?

As I say, you may be mixing the “I” of Jesus where He says “the Father is greater than I” from The “I” where He says “I and the Father are One”

Well, we are not talking about two different people. Christ humbled himself to become man, but did not in any way give up his divinity. He is 100% man and 100% God but only one Person. Yes, in Christ’s humanity, the Father is greater but only because Jesus willingly assumed such a state while on earth. In his divinity they are equal because they are one God. In his soul as in his body, Christ communicates the divine ways of the Trinity.

And yet after so many centuries of wonderful humanitarian work, the problems of poverty, sickness, housing and prejudice are increasing…

Increasing? Please give me your source for this information. Through health care, education, science, and moral teaching the Catholic Church actually transformed the world, even your world. Yet the job is not finished and will not be finished until Christ comes again. That is when we will have a new heaven and a new earth. Christ told us that we will always have the poor. Therefore we will always have a responsibility to take care of the poor. What is the Baha’i faith doing in this regard?

ted.com/talks/ernesto_sirolli_want_to_help_someone_shut_up_and_listen.html

This man has done more aid work than anyone, and he says himself, it has failed.

More work than anyone? More work than Catholic Relief Services? More work than Cross International? More work than Mother Teresa? I don’t think so.

Sustainable empowerment of communities to take ownership of their own advancement and development is what the global Baha’i community’s aim is at the moment.

Forgive me but this sounds like a political speech; nice sounding words that are empty of any substance. How do you propose to empower communities to take ownership of their own advancement and development? The Catholic Church does this through educating these people and working along side of them so that they become self sufficient. How is your plan different and why is it not in place?

Time is short, I can post something up for you to look at later Yes, it is new, and it works…

I will be waiting.

No I don’t mean feeding the poor etc etc, its significantly more deep than that. Its an entire global system of empowerment and unity. The global Baha’i plans are shaping nicely, but they will take time, but they can accelerate quickly when more people study it and adopt some of the principles. You do not need to be a Baha’i in order to build communities founded on Baha’i principles.

In fact, there are several communities globally where the coordination of Baha’i principles is being carried out by Christians, Muslims etc etc

Again, I can elaborate further, but time is short. I promise I WILL elaborate for you though, very soon

Good, because until now, all we have heard is that you have this great plan that will change the world. Again, I will be waiting.

 

[daler]

Yes Ignatian, Obama is not Theodore Roosevelt either

Different times, different policies, but both American Presidents though, and guided the US towards a purpose…

EXCELLENT Analogy. Both of them say: “I am the President”, and they are, for the Office of the Presidency is their station. Yet each of them held that Office in a different age and time and had their own individual identity, but carried out all that was essential to that Office at the time, fulfilling their purpose and doing their duties.

 

[daler]

1 ) No, this is not our fear. We have been warned in our Sacred Scriptures: “But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a Gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!”. The fact that Baha’u’lah claims to be God; claims to be equal to Jesus Christ, is a pretty good clue that “another Gospel” is being preached.

2 ) And I would turn this right around and say that what is particularly challenging for Baha’is are Christ’s own words: “I am the Truth, the Way and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” (John 14:6)

As to the matter of the first point, the Baha’i view of the Manifestations of God are that they are Divine Instruments by which God speaks to humanity. It is, in a real sense, as though He has fashioned a “Pen”, with which He writes, or speaks to humanity. Sometimes He speaks through Them in the first person, saying, at times, plainly: “Verily, verily, I am God. No God is there but Me.”
At other times the voice of the Manifestation is praying to God, or saying: “He is God. No God is there but Him.”

As to the second point, there is no particular challenge whatsoever in Christ’s words:
“I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man cometh to the Father but by Me.”

What seems to be difficult for some to understand is this. When God sends to us a Manifestation, “He”, that Manifestation, is “the Way, the Truth, and the Life” and no man comes to the Father but by Him, the Manifestation of God, for without Him, we cannot approach God.
The Sufis believe that they can approach God directly. Baha’u’llah clearly denies this. The closest we can come to God is through His Manifestation, and through Him were all things made. Attaining the Presence of the Manifestation of God is attaining the Presence of God. Turning towards Him is turning towards God, and turning away from Him is turning away from God.
This does not mean that God is, for example, a human being, whether Jesus or Baha’u’llah, that God stands 5 foot 3 and weights 135 pounds and has brown hair, etc, for that is the description of a man, whether Jesus or Baha’u’llah. Do you see the difference?

Now as to the eternal reality of the Manifestation of God, He exists before and apart from a physical identity. Thus, Jesus says, “Before Abraham was, I am.”
Abraham was before Jesus, so it would be correct as well for “Him” that spoke, to say, “Before Jesus was, I am” That He takes on a human identity with which to appear to us, and communicate God’s word to us, is a reality which we believe. Moses was born as a human baby, just as Jesus was, and as Baha’u’llah was, each to their mother, with part of her DNA and the rest.
What is challenging is the matter of the “Return”, which Baha’is believe has already happened, but this is not the bodily descent from outer space of Jesus, who would be 2000 years old by now, for we do not believe that He physically ascended into outer space, or a physical “place” called Heaven.
Rather, as John the Baptist was the Return of Elias, yet was born of his own mother, it is the return of the spiritual station of Elias that has occurred. The rose of a year ago does not come back this springtime, but in a sense it has, for the beauty and fragrance of last years rose has again appeared in this new rose.

 

[arthra]

Please tell me, which of these “Manifistations of God” laid down their lives for the salvation of the world? Which of them laid down their lives as a ransom?

Yes. This is based upon the fact that Truth never changes; that truth is not relative. The Catholic Church does not bring new revelation to the world. Rather it guards and defends the deposit of divine revelation given to the Apostles by Christ himself, the fulfillment of all revelation. We need not look any further. Therefore it is appropriate to make a statement of beliefs for all generations in order to convey this eternal Truth and protect it from error.

Thanks for you response Steve…

I’ll respond to your first question and accept your statement below as your own belief which is essentially

“We need not look any further”

Here are a few selections from the Writings …in response to your question above:

*Since the Seal of the Prophets (Muhammad) – may all else but Him be His sacrifice – and before Him the Spirit of God (Jesus), as far back as the First Manifestation, all have at the time of Their appearance suffered grievously. Some were held to be possessed, others were called impostors, and were treated in a manner that the pen is ashamed to describe. By God! There befell Them what hath made all created things to sigh, and yet the people are, for the most part, sunk in manifest ignorance! We pray God to assist them to return unto Him, and to repent before the door of His mercy. Potent is He over all things.
*
(Baha’u’llah, Epistle to the Son of the Wolf, p. 91)

Leaders of religion, in every age, have hindered their people from attaining the shores of eternal salvation, inasmuch as they held the reins of authority in their mighty grasp. Some for the lust of leadership, others through want of knowledge and understanding, have been the cause of the deprivation of the people. By their sanction and authority, every Prophet of God hath drunk from the chalice of sacrifice, and winged His flight unto the heights of glory. What unspeakable cruelties they that have occupied the seats of authority and learning have inflicted upon the true Monarchs of the world, those Gems of divine virtue!

(Baha'u'llah, The Kitab-i-Iqan, p. 15)

*Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, 23:30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.

Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.*
(King James Bible, Matthew 3:29-31)

 

[daler]

1 ) Then why do they disagree with each other? You would not find Abraham or Moses or Isaiah or the Apostles or Paul agreeing with the tenants of your faith. Christ was the final and complete revelation. As the Apostles said “To whom shall we go? You have the words of everlasting life”.

2 ) And once again we have Jesus diminished to the status of “prophet” rather than “Savior of the world”. He just shined a little brighter than most.
1 ) There is indeed consistency with the tenants of the Baha’i Faith in all the true religions of God, for “All the Prophets proclaim the same Faith”
It is important to understand, however, that as some of the ancient Faiths, such as Buddhism and Hinduism come from oral traditions many centuries old before what remained was written down, and that much was mixed with superstition current among the people, some inaccuracies persist and are rejected by the Baha’i Faith. We do not, for example, believe in reincarnation, and would suggest that this may be some form of reference to heaven, and not to coming back to earth.

2 ) As to the station of Jesus, He is not diminished whatsoever when seen in His true Light. There are greater and lesser Prophets, those like Isaiah and Daniel and Jeremiah or John the Baptist are lesser prophets who prophecy the coming of Those such as Jesus or Baha’u’llah. Understand this, that the Prophets of God are not in competition with one another. The following explains it:

“Know thou assuredly that the essence of all the Prophets of God is one and the same. Their unity is absolute. God, the Creator, saith: There is no distinction whatsoever among the Bearers of My Message. They all have but one purpose; their secret is the same secret. To prefer one in honor to another, to exalt certain ones above the rest, is in no wise to be permitted. Every true Prophet hath regarded His Message as fundamentally the same as the Revelation of every other Prophet gone before Him. If any man, therefore, should fail to comprehend this truth, and should consequently indulge in vain and unseemly language, no one whose sight is keen and whose understanding is enlightened would ever allow such idle talk to cause him to waver in his belief.
The measure of the revelation of the Prophets of God in this world, however, must differ. Each and every one of them hath been the Bearer of a distinct Message, and hath been commissioned to reveal Himself through specific acts. It is for this reason that they appear to vary in their greatness. Their Revelation may be likened unto the light of the moon that sheddeth its radiance upon the earth. Though every time it appeareth, it revealeth a fresh measure of its brightness, yet its inherent splendor can never diminish, nor can its light suffer extinction.”

 

[IgnatianPhilo]

Yes Ignatian, Obama is not Theodore Roosevelt either

Different times, different policies, but both American Presidents though, and guided the US towards a purpose…

My Point is that your supposed manifestations taught things which contradict. Is there a cycle of karmic reincarnation as Krishna taught? Or maybe that was the case when he was around, God likes to rewrite the rules if I take bahai seriously.

And a president might be guided towards soemthing but what matters is if they are guided by the same principle. Obama would direct the nation towards one without borders,where everyone is dependant on government for sustenunce (kind of like the bahai) whereas a conservative president would try to limit government as much as possible.

So two people can claim to be a prophet but they are not prophets of the same God. Jesus was a prophet to the God of truth. Muhammad was a prophet to the best of deceivers. Jesus railed against satan as the greatest of deceivers. Muhammad a manifestation who eternally existed feared allah so much he nearly killed himself.

But obviously they are the same manifestation right?

 

[SteveVH]

Thanks for you response Steve…

I’ll respond to your first question and accept your statement below as your own belief which is essentially

“We need not look any further”

Here are a few selections from the Writings …in response to your question above:

*Since the Seal of the Prophets (Muhammad) – may all else but Him be His sacrifice – and before Him the Spirit of God (Jesus), as far back as the First Manifestation, all have at the time of Their appearance suffered grievously. Some were held to be possessed, others were called impostors, and were treated in a manner that the pen is ashamed to describe. By God! There befell Them what hath made all created things to sigh, and yet the people are, for the most part, sunk in manifest ignorance! We pray God to assist them to return unto Him, and to repent before the door of His mercy. Potent is He over all things.
*
(Baha’u’llah, Epistle to the Son of the Wolf, p. 91)

Leaders of religion, in every age, have hindered their people from attaining the shores of eternal salvation, inasmuch as they held the reins of authority in their mighty grasp. Some for the lust of leadership, others through want of knowledge and understanding, have been the cause of the deprivation of the people. By their sanction and authority, every Prophet of God hath drunk from the chalice of sacrifice, and winged His flight unto the heights of glory. What unspeakable cruelties they that have occupied the seats of authority and learning have inflicted upon the true Monarchs of the world, those Gems of divine virtue!

(Baha'u'llah, The Kitab-i-Iqan, p. 15)

*Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, 23:30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.

Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.*

(King James Bible, Matthew 3:29-31)

There is one prevalent thread that runs through your theology that will never be acceptable to a Christian and that is that Jesus was just another prophet, or manifestation of God in a long line of manifestations. We hold Jesus as completely unique among all of mankind in that he, and he alone is God. It is he about whom the prophets prophesied. It is he for whom the prophets waited. It is his sacrifice alone that has redeemed the world. These conclusions are based upon revealed truth from Christ who gave us the new and everlasting covenant. That means that it does not change over the centuries, as if the truth that he revealed needed updating or improving. This is why we cannot accept any other religious philosophy. Our truth is found in the person of Jesus Christ, our Lord and our God.

 

[IgnatianPhilo]

As sufficient explanation for both the individual human identity, i.e., Moses, Jesus, Baha’u’llah unique in their physical identity descriptions, DNA, etc, There is a previously well stated quotation from the One Single Eternal Manifestation of God Who appears from age to age, even as, from another religious prophetic utterance so clearly concurs:

Your not answering the question clearly. Obviously you believe they are different bodies, different physical entities throughout all of history but what is not answered is whether or not they are the same person. You believe in a personhood not dependant on the body right? That is the identity lays within the soul? Is the identity of the person who was Jesus of Nazereth, his soul, the same as the identity of the person who was Mirza hussain? Could Mirza Hussain say “When they crucified me I said, that is I the person talking to you right now “It is finished.””?

Bahai seem confused over this question, over alot of things their theology doesn’t have a ready answer too. The same thing happened in Christianity (you like to do that with your prophets, now do it with the movements after your prophets and recognise historic patterns), there was a need for Christians to clarify their positions for pagans and other Christians which were not directly accessible, hence it was found there was dissagrement and certain theologies grew and developed in certain places, more need for clarification. Im no prophet but I suspect bahai will have to grow beyond simply quoting their prophet and eventually figure some things out for themselves.

 

[SteveVH]

1 ) There is indeed consistency with the tenants of the Baha’i Faith in all the true religions of God, for “All the Prophets proclaim the same Faith”

Sorry, but this is just a false statement on its face. All of the “prophets” do not proclaim the same faith or we would all be the same faith. Does Muhammad proclaim Jesus as the Messiah? No, he does not. There are true prophets and there are false prophets.

It is important to understand, however, that as some of the ancient Faiths, such as Buddhism and Hinduism come from oral traditions many centuries old before what remained was written down, and that much was mixed with superstition current among the people, some inaccuracies persist and are rejected by the Baha’i Faith. We do not, for example, believe in reincarnation, and would suggest that this may be some form of reference to heaven, and not to coming back to earth.

So you are saying that there are some people who are in error, yes? And your faith tradition has made a discernment as to what is true and what is error, yes? How do the Buddhists and Hindus feel about your position?

"Know thou assuredly that the essence of all the Prophets of God is one and the same. Their unity is absolute.

And yet we know that this is not in the least bit true, at least with those whom you consider to be prophets. They are in no way unified. If they were we would not be having this conversation.

God bless.

 

[daler]

Sorry, but this is just a false statement on its face. All of the “prophets” do not proclaim the same faith or we would all be the same faith. Does Muhammad proclaim Jesus as the Messiah? No, he does not. There are true prophets and there are false prophets.

So you are saying that there are some people who are in error, yes? And your faith tradition has made a discernment as to what is true and what is error, yes? How do the Buddhists and Hindus feel about your position?

And yet we know that this is not in the least bit true, at least with those whom you consider to be prophets. They are in no way unified. If they were we would not be having this conversation.

God bless.

Steve, Lets pretend we are in a philosophy class, abiding by the instruments of logic, or examining a theological statement being made.

With the statement is held the assumption that if we are speaking about “a Prophet of God”, and not someone who is a false prophet, then the quote is simply saying that if one is truly a Prophet of God, then he is proclaiming the same Faith as the other Prophets of God.
Within the accepted recognition of the prophets of Israel who are accepted by Christians, they all proclaim the same Faith. Right? That is, Moses didn’t proclaim a different Faith than Abraham, and Jesus didn’t proclaim a different Faith than either of Them.

Where the difficulty then arises is when each group fails to recognize further prophets than the last one accepted by their group. For example, Jews do not recognize Jesus, for He followed Moses, but they do not regard Him as authentic. The same thing occurs with Muhammad not being regarded by the followers of Moses or Jesus. Each has their reasons, or reasonings, for rejecting the next Prophet.

So the difficulty is convincing a Jew that Jesus is the Messiah, but if you can do that, then they accept Him as one of the Prophets proclaiming the same Faith. Similarly, the challenge has been for Muslims, who maintain that “Islam” was the religion of Abraham, and Moses and Jesus, in their view, for Islam means submission to the will of God.

But as each claims the next one to be a false prophet, there continues to be the religion of the Jews, the Christians, and the Muslims. Does this mean that the religion of Jesus is Not the religion of Moses? Not for me, because I recognize Jesus as the Messiah, and one of the continuing line of Prophets beginning with Adam.

Then the Muslims say yes to Jesus, but also Muhammad, etc…

As to Buddhists and Hindus, many of them accept Jesus, having no difficulty there.
There are many who are Baha’is, as there are Jews, Christians, and Muslims, seeing no contradiction, but rather having a new perspective, view them as revealers of Progressive Revelation:

“This is the changeless Faith of God, eternal in the past, eternal in the future.”

As to your question: “How do the Buddhists and Hindus feel about your position?”
One can also ask: “How do the Jews feel about your position?” for it is the same position.
Those Jews who recognize Jesus as are called Christians. The others feel whatever they do about the position of the Christians. It is the same.

I do realize how difficult it is to resolve these differences. If it were easy, there would be no problem. But after 2000 years, the Jews have still not resolved the position of Christ relative to their beliefs, nor have Christians after 1400 years resolved the differences of Islam with their beliefs.

“Beware, O believers in the Unity of God, lest ye be tempted to make any distinction between any of the Manifestations of His Cause, or to discriminate against the signs that have accompanied and proclaimed their Revelation. This indeed is the true meaning of Divine Unity, if ye be of them that apprehend and believe this truth. Be ye assured, moreover, that the works and acts of each and every one of these Manifestations of God, nay whatever pertaineth unto them, and whatsoever they may manifest in the future, are all ordained by God, and are a reflection of His Will and Purpose….”