Baptist church say Koran needs to be Flushed

[Matt25]

"Christians and Muslims have many things in common, as believers and as human beings. We live in the same world, marked by many signs of hope, but also by multiple signs of anguish. For us, Abraham is a model of faith in God, of submission to his will and of confidence in his goodness. We believe in the same God, the one God, the living God, the God who created the world and brings his creatures to their perfection…

"God asks that we should listen to His voice. He expects from us obedience to His holy will in a free consent of mind and heart.

"It is therefore toward this God that my thought goes and that my heart rises. It is of God himself that, above all, I wish to speak with you; of him, because it is in him that we believe, you Muslims and we Catholics. I wish also to speak with you about human values, which have their basis in God, these values which concern the blossoming of our person, as also that of our families and our societies, as well as that of the international community. The mystery of God–is it not the highest reality from which depends the very meaning which man gives to his life? And is it not the first problem that presents itself to a young person, when he reflects upon the mystery of his own existence and on the values which he intends to choose in order to build his growing personality? . . .

"First of all, I invoke the Most High, the all-powerful God who is our Creator. He is the origin of all life, as he is at the source of all that is good, of all that is beautiful, of all that is holy. . . .

"He made us, us men, and we are from him. His holy law guides our life. It is the light of God which orients our destiny and enlightens our conscience. . . .

"Yes, God asks that we should listen to his voice. He expects from us obedience to his holy will in a free consent of mind and of heart.

"That is why we are accountable before him. It is He, God, who is our judge; He who alone is truly just. We know, however, that his mercy is inseparable from His justice. When man returns to Him, repentant and contrite, after having strayed into the disorder of sin and the works of death, God then reveals Himself as the one who pardons and shows mercy.

"To Him, therefore, our love and our adoration! For His blessing and His mercy, we thank Him, at all times and in all places. . . .

"Man is a spiritual being. We believers know that we do not live in a closed world. We believe in God. We are worshipers of God. We are seekers of God.

"The Catholic Church regards with respect and recognizes the equality of your religious progress, the richness of your spiritual tradition. . . .
"I believe that we, Christians and Muslims, must recognize with joy the religious values that we have in common, and give thanks to God for them. Both of us believe in one God, the only God, who is all justice and all mercy; we believe in the importance of prayer, of fasting, of almsgiving, of repentance and of pardon; we believe that God will be a merciful judge to us all at the end of time, and we hope that after the resurrection He will be satisfied with us and we know that we will be satisfied with him.

"Loyalty demands also that we should recognize and respect our differences. Obviously the most fundamental is the view that we hold onto the person and work of Jesus of Nazareth. You know that, for Christians, Jesus cause them to enter into an intimate knowledge of the mystery of God and into the filial communion by His gifts, so that they recognize Him and proclaim Him Lord and Savior.

"Those are the important differences which we can accept with humility and respect, in mutual tolerance; this is a mystery about which, I am certain, God will one day enlighten us.

"Christians and Muslims, in general we have badly understood each other, and sometimes, in the past, we have opposed and often exhausted each other in polemics and in wars.

"I believe that today, God invites us to change our old practices. We must respect each other, and we must stimulate each other in good works on the path of God.

"With me, you know the reward of spiritual values. Ideologies and slogans cannot satisfy you nor can they solve the problems of your life. Only spiritual and moral values can do it, and they have God at their foundation.

“Dear young people, I wish that you may be able to help in building a world where God may have first place in order to aid and to save mankind. On this path, you are assured, of the esteem and the collaboration of your Catholic brothers and sisters whom I represent among you this evening.”

             **John Paul II , address to the young Muslims of Morocco,                August 19, 1985**

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[Matt25]

"You must try to show your Muslim brethren and the followers of other religious traditions that your Christian faith, far from weakening your sense of pride in your homeland and your love for her, helps you to prize and respect the culture and heritage of Bangladesh. It inspires you to face the challenges of the present day with love and responsibility. . . .

"The Catholic Church is committed to a path of dialogue and collaboration with the men and women of goodwill of every religious tradition. We have many spiritual resources in common which we must share with one another as we work for a more human world. Young people especially know how to be open with each other and they want a world in which all the basic freedoms, including the freedom of religious belief, will be respected.

“Sometimes Christians and Muslims fear and distrust one another as a result of past misunderstanding and conflict. This is also true in Bangladesh. Everyone, especially the young, must learn to always respect one another’s religious beliefs and to defend freedom of religion, which is the right of every human being.”

           **John Paul II, To Christians (and others) in Bangladesh,                November 19, 1986**

                                             http://www.uniya.org/images/spacer1x1.gif "The topic of your discussion is a timely one. Since we are believers in God - who is goodness and perfection - all our activities must reflect the holy and upright nature of the one whom we worship and seek to obey. For this reason, also in the works of mission and da'wah [summons], our action must be founded upon a respect for the inalienable dignity and freedom of the human person created and loved by God. Both Christians and Muslims are called to defend the inviolable right of each individual to freedom of religious belief and practice. There have been in the past, and there continue to be in the present, unfortunate instances of misunderstanding, intolerance and conflict between Christians and Muslims, especially in circumstances where either Muslims or Christians are a minority or are guest workers in a given country. It is our challenge as religious leaders to find ways to overcome such difficulties in a spirit of justice, brotherhood and mutual respect. Hence, by considering the proper means of carrying out mission and da'wah you are dealing with an issue which is important both for religious and for social harmony.

“You have also been addressing the difficulties faced today by those who believe in God in their efforts to proclaim his presence and his will for mankind. As believers, we do not deny or reject any of the real benefits which modern developments have brought, but we are convinced nevertheless that without reference to God modern society is unable to lead men and women to the goal for which they have been created. It is here too that Christians and Muslims can work together, bearing witness before modern civilization to the divine presence and loving Providence which guide our steps. Together we can proclaim that he who has made us has called us to live in harmony and justice. May the blessing of the Most High accompany you in your endeavors on behalf of dialogue and peace.”

           **John Paul II, To the delegation of the World Islamic Call                Society, Rome, 15 January 1990**

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[Matt25]

"To all Muslims throughout the world, I wish to express the readiness of the Catholic Church to work together with you and all the people of good will to aid the victims of the war and to build structures of a lasting peace not only in the Middle East, but everywhere. This cooperation in solidarity towards the most afflicted can form the concrete basis for a sincere, profound and constant dialogue between believing Catholics and believing Muslims, from which there can arise a strengthened mutual knowledge and trust, and the assurance that each one everywhere will be able to profess freely and authentically his or her own faith.

"Injustice, oppression, aggression, greed, failure to forgive, desire for revenge, and unwillingness to enter into dialogue and negotiate: these are merely some of the factors which lead people to depart from the way in which God desires us to live on this planet. We must all learn to recognize these elements in our own lives and societies, and find ways to overcome them. Only when individuals and groups undertake this education for peace can we build a fraternal and united world, freed from war and violence.

"I close my greeting to you with the words of one of my predecessors, Pope Gregory VII who in 1076 wrote to Al-Nasir, the Muslim Ruler of Bijaya, present day Algeria: ‘Almighty God, who wishes that all should be saved and none lost, approves nothing in so much as that after loving Him one should love his fellow man, and that one should not do to others, what one does not want done to oneself. You and we owe this charity to ourselves especially because we believe in and confess one God, admittedly, in a different way, and daily praise and venerate him, the creator of the world and ruler of this world.’

“These words, written almost a thousand years ago, express my feelings to you today as you celebrate ‘Id al-Fitr, the Feast of the Breaking of the Fast. May the Most High God fill us with all His merciful love and peace.”

            **John Paul II, Message to the faithful of Islam at the end                of the month of Ramadan, April 3, 1991

** "We know that prayer acquires power if it is joined with fasting and almsgiving. The Old Testament taught this, and from the earliest centuries Christians have accepted and applied this lesson, especially at the times of Advent and Lent. For their part, the Muslim faithful have just begun Ramadan, a month dedicated to fasting and prayer. Soon, we Christians will begin Advent, to prepare ourselves in prayer, for the celebration of Christmas, the day of the birth of "the Prince of Peace.’

"At this appropriate time, I ask Catholics to make next 14 December [the last Friday of Ramadan and the third Friday of Advent] a day of fasting, to pray fervently to God to grant to the world stable peace based on justice, and make it possible to find adequate solutions to the many conflicts that trouble the world. May what is saved by fasting be put at the disposal of the poor, especially those who at present suffer the consequences of terrorism and war.

"I would also like to announce that it is my intention to invite the representatives of the world religions to come to Assisi on 24 January 2002, to pray for the overcoming of opposition and the promotion of authentic peace. In particular, we wish to bring Christians and Muslims together to proclaim to the world that religion must never be a reason for conflict, hatred and violence. In this historic moment, humanity needs to see gestures of peace and to hear words of hope.

“As I said 15 years ago, when announcing the meeting of prayer for peace, which was held in Assisi the following October: ‘It is urgent that a common invocation rise to heaven from earth, to beg from Almighty God, in whose hands is the destiny of the world, the great gift of peace, the necessary condition for every serious endeavor at the service of humanity’s real progress’.”
**John Paul II, address before the Angelus, November 18, 2001**

 

[AlanFromWichita]

space ghost:

…well, now i’ve heard it all… we are agreeing with the Baptist…pssst… what a hoot… goog grief:whacky: http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/features/2004/08/images/ghost_270x165.gif

It reminds me of a Shakespearean insult I once read. If they say enough stull we can probably agree with them occasionally:

“He is not an honest man by nature, but is so sometimes by chance.”

Alan

 

[StratusRose]

Very Good posts, Matt25! I was waiting for someone to chime in with those quotations!

That sign is satanic and of the devil if you ask me. It’s counterproductive and it appeals to only Christians. No respect at all. How are we supposed to evangelize people of other religions when signs like these put them down? If I had seen a sign saying “Protestants are going to hell” two years ago, I would have never had converted to Catholicism. You attract more bees with honey than with vinegar people!

My favorite part of the story was this…“I believe that it is a statement supporting the word of God and that it (the Bible) is above all and that any other religious book that does not teach Christ as savior and lord as the 66 books of the Bible teaches it, is wrong,” said Lovelace." Umm. there are more than 66, pal.

 

[Shoshana]

StratusRose:

Very Good posts, Matt25! I was waiting for someone to chime in with those quotations!

That sign is satanic and of the devil if you ask me. It’s counterproductive and it appeals to only Christians. No respect at all. How are we supposed to evangelize people of other religions when signs like these put them down? If I had seen a sign saying “Protestants are going to hell” two years ago, I would have never had converted to Catholicism. You attract more bees with honey than with vinegar people!

My favorite part of the story was this…"I believe that it is a statement supporting the word of God and that it (the Bible) is above all and that any other religious book that does not teach Christ as savior and lord as the 66 books of the Bible teaches it, is wrong," said Lovelace." Umm. there are more than 66, pal.

Any sign of hate is offensive…my brother put leaflets on every one’s car (except for the family’s that Catholics are going to hell at my daughter’s First Holy Communion. It was terribly offensive, and declaring himself so Christian) he has never apologized for such action. This brother who was Catholic/akaAnglican/akaCalvary Gospel/Faith Tabernacle…:whacky:

Blessings,
Shoshana
PS We Must remember St Francis who walked into a Muslim campsite with no weapons whatsover to preach God’s love…

Blessings,
Shoshana

 

[dumspirospero]

I believe the fruits of Islam are evil and wicked…with that said though, I don’t believe all Muslims are wicked and evil…I even have some good friends from The Citadel that were from Jordan and United Arab Emirates and they are great guys…All I know is that from the beginning of Islam up until today, they have enjoyed going around and murdering, raping, and pillaging to get what they desire such as land, etc…Look at the current state of the Islamic Church today…There are no Muslims speaking out in large numbers about their murdering kook bretheren…where is the condemnation? Where is the effort to formally separate from these murderers by the other Muslims? “By their fruits you shall no them…” Well I have seen the fruit the tree of Islam bears…and it is evil and wicked.

With that said, I do agree with them on the issue of same-sex marriage though.

 

[space_ghost]

I can agree with someone of a different faith…believe it or not…its ok. This is one of the many issues most Christians can/do agree upon. Besides the Culture of Life issues.
[/quote]

…you misunderstand my post Jeff… i was saying that we argue with those that differ from us on somethings, it’s only on the areas that we agree that we would allow any measure of credibility…
…in other words some of the very ones high-fiving the Baptist on dissing the Koran will be roasting them on their mentla capacity concerning other subjects… i too can agree on “Truths”… and no one thinks you are a bigot nor has accused you of being one… if i have offended you, i apologize…

Peace:thumbsup:

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[Richardols]

KBarn:

Islam represents a Christian heresy. Inasmuch as all heresies are the work of Satan, Islam is satanic.

You’d better go and read the Catechism and Nostra Aetate to see what the Church thinks of Islam before making such a statement.

People in glass houses point: Keep in mind that most Fundamentalists and a lot of Baptists believe that Catholicism was founded by Satan himself.

 

[Matt25]

dumspirospero:

.There are no Muslims speaking out in large numbers about their murdering kook bretheren…where is the condemnation? Where is the effort to formally separate from these murderers by the other Muslims? “By their fruits you shall no them…” Well I have seen the fruit the tree of Islam bears…and it is evil and wicked.

See muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php
islamfortoday.com/terrorism.htm
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3059365.stm
** One of the world’s most influential Islamic leaders has condemned all attacks by suicide bombers at an international conference for Islamic scholars. ** Grand Sheikh Mohammed Sayed Tantawi of the Al-Azhar mosque of Cairo - which is seen as the highest authority in Sunni Islam - said groups which carried out suicide bombings were the enemies of Islam.

Speaking at the conference in the Malaysian capital, Kuala Lumpur, Sheikh Tantawi said extremist Islamic groups had appropriated Islam and its notion of jihad, or holy struggle, for their own ends.

He called on Muslim nations to open themselves to dialogue with the West saying Islamic nations should “wholeheartedly open our arms to the people who want peace with us”.
“I do not subscribe to the idea of a clash among civilizations. People of different beliefs should co-operate and not get into senseless conflicts and animosity,” he added.

Sheikh Tantawi was addressing a gathering of nearly 800 scholars and representatives from various non-governmental organisations.

       "Extremism is the enemy of Islam. Whereas, jihad is allowed in Islam to defend one's land, to help the oppressed. The difference between jihad in Islam and extremism is like the earth and the sky," Sheikh Tantawi said.           

                           **           Book ban           **                              

       Sheikh Tantawi said Muslim suicide attacks, including those against Israelis, were wrong and could not be justified.

His comments echoed those by Malaysian Prime Minister Dr Mahathir Mohammed who said, at the opening of the conference on Thursday, that salvation could not be achieved through the killing of innocent people.

Worried that Islam’s image is being damaged by terrorists who have hijacked the religion for their own ends, delegates also considered banning books which fuel extremism.

“We have to block them from channels that are meant to spread Islam,” Sheik Husam Qaraqirah, head of an Islamic charity association in Lebanon, said.
"Their books must be banned and lifted off the shelves of mosques, schools, universities and libraries," he added.

 

[Matt25]

islamdenouncesterrorism.com/

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New York Times

October 8, 2001

By JACQUES STEINBERG

Leading American scholars and practitioners of Islam said yesterday that Osama bin Laden had twisted and debased Muslim theology in a videotaped statement in which he called on “every Muslim” to “rush to make his religion victorious” by emulating those who attacked the United States on Sept. 11.

Ingrid Mattson, a professor of Islamic studies and Muslim-Christian relations at Hartford Seminary in Hartford, said there was no basis in Islamic law or sacred text for Mr. bin Laden’s remarks.

“The basic theological distortion is that any means are permitted to achieve the end of protesting against perceived oppression,” said Dr. Mattson, a practicing Muslim.

“Islamic law is very clear: terrorism is not permitted,” she added. “Even in a legitimate war — even if Osama bin Laden were a legitimate head of state, which he’s not — you’re not permitted to indiscriminately kill civilians, just to create terror in the general population.”

Mr. bin Laden’s comments were broadcast in Arabic yesterday by Al Jazeera television in Qatar, soon after American and British forces began military strikes against Afghanistan.

While he did not take credit for the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, Mr. bin Laden described those who executed the assaults as “vanguards of Islam” whom “God blessed.”

He also invoked God’s name in vowing that “neither America nor the people who live in it will dream of security” until “the infidel armies” have vacated Israel and the Arab world.

Of America and its allies, Mr. bin Laden said, “May God show them his wrath and give them what they deserve.”

Dr. Faroque Khan, a spokesman for the Islamic Center of Long Island in Westbury, N.Y., said Mr. bin Laden’s militant interpretation of the Koran and other sacred texts was not consistent with “my understanding.”

“Islam teaches very clearly that you don’t harm the innocent,” Dr. Khan said. "His is the view of one person sitting somewhere in the mountains of Afghanistan. It doesn’t affect the views of law-abiding citizens, Americans in the United States.

“No Muslims in America are going to rise up in response.”

Dr. Maher Hathout, senior adviser of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, an organization based in Los Angeles that seeks to explain Islam to the wider American population, said the Koran permitted “anyone to call on God for anything.”

That said, Dr. Hathout added, “It is for the Almighty to make the judgment of whether to act.”

The half-dozen clerics and scholars interviewed said that even if they had been critical of the American policies that so inflamed Mr. bin Laden, like United States support for Israel, there was no way to rationalize the violent course that he was advocating.

“There is no justification in turning your anger and frustration in one part of the world against civilians in another,” said Imam Fawaz Damra, the director of the Islamic Center of Cleveland.

Those interviewed said the Koran’s prohibition against the killing of the innocent could prove thorny if civilian lives were lost in the American and British attacks on Afghanistan. But they said they nonetheless considered the American response justified.

“We wish there had been a diplomatic resolution to the crisis,” Dr. Khan said. “But we are squarely behind the American leadership in getting the perpetrators of this crime to justice.”

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[Matt25]

**Muslim Religious figures condemn terrorism

* "Hijacking Planes, terrorizing innocent people and shedding blood constitute a form of injustice that can not be tolerated by Islam, which views them as gross crimes and sinful acts."

** Shaykh Abdul Aziz al-Ashaikh (Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia and Chairman of the Senior Ulama, on September 15th, 2001)

***The terrorists acts, from the perspective of Islamic law, constitute the crime of hirabah (waging war against society)."

** Sept. 27, 2001 fatwa, signed by:

Shaykh Yusuf al-Qaradawi (Grand Islamic Scholar and Chairman of the Sunna and Sira Countil, Qatar)

Judge Tariq al-Bishri, First Deputy President of the Council d’etat, Egypt

Dr. Muhammad s. al-Awa, Professor of Islamic Law and Shari’a, Egypt

Dr. Haytham al-Khayyat, Islamic scholar, Syria

Fahmi Houaydi, Islamic scholar, Syria

Shaykh Taha Jabir al-Alwani, Chairman, North America High Council

***“Neither the law of Islam nor its ethical system justify such a crime.”

** Zaki Badawi, Principal of the Muslim College in London. Cited in Arab News, Sept. 28, 2001.

***“It is wrong to kill innocent people. It is also wrong to Praise those who kill innocent people.”

** Mufti Nizamuddin Shamzai, Pakistan. Cited in NY Times, Sept. 28, 2001.

***“What these people stand for is completely against all the principles that Arab Muslims believe in.”

** King Abdullah II, of Jordan; cited in Middle East Times, Sept. 28, 2001.

**

Islamic Statements Against Terrorism in the Wake of the September 11 Mass Murders

** Mustafa Mashhur, General Guide, Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt; Qazi Hussain Ahmed, Ameer, Jamaat-e-Islami Pakistan, Pakistan; Muti Rahman Nizami, Ameer, Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh, Bangladesh; Shaykh Ahmad Yassin, Founder, Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas), Palestine; Rashid Ghannoushi, President, Nahda Renaissance Movement, Tunisia; Fazil Nour, President, PAS - Parti Islam SeMalaysia, Malaysia; and 40 other Muslim scholars and politicians:

“The undersigned, leaders of Islamic movements, are horrified by the events of Tuesday 11 September 2001 in the United States which resulted in massive killing, destruction and attack on innocent lives. We express our deepest sympathies and sorrow. We condemn, in the strongest terms, the incidents, which are against all human and Islamic norms. This is grounded in the Noble Laws of Islam which forbid all forms of attacks on innocents. God Almighty says in the Holy Qur’an: ‘No bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another’ (Surah al-Isra 17:15).”
MSANews, September 14, 2001, http://msanews.mynet.net/MSANEWS/200109/20010917.15.html;
Arabic original in al-Quds al-Arabi (London), September 14, 2001, p. 2, http://www.alquds.co.uk/Alquds/2001/09Sep/14 Sep Fri/Quds02.pdf

Shaykh Muhammed Sayyid al-Tantawi, imam of al-Azhar mosque in Cairo, Egypt:

“Attacking innocent people is not courageous, it is stupid and will be punished on the day of judgement. … It’s not courageous to attack innocent children, women and civilians. It is courageous to protect freedom, it is courageous to defend oneself and not to attack.”
Agence France Presse, September 14, 2001

Abdel-Mo’tei Bayyoumi, al-Azhar Islamic Research Academy, Cairo, Egypt:

“There is no terrorism or a threat to civilians in jihad [religious struggle].”
Al-Ahram Weekly Online, 20 - 26 September 2001, http://www.ahram.org.eg/weekly/2001/552/p4fall3.htm

Muslim Brotherhood, an opposition Islamist group in Egypt, said it was “horrified” by the attack and expressed “condolences and sadness”:

“[We] strongly condemn such activities that are against all humanist and Islamic morals. … [We] condemn and oppose all aggression on human life, freedom and dignity anywhere in the world.”
Al-Ahram Weekly Online, 13 - 19 September 2001, http://www.ahram.org.eg/weekly/2001/551/fo2.htm

Shaykh Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah, spiritual guide of Shi‘i Muslim radicals in Lebanon, said he was “horrified” by these “barbaric … crimes”:

“Beside the fact that they are forbidden by Islam, these acts do not serve those who carried them out but their victims, who will reap the sympathy of the whole world. … Islamists who live according to the human values of Islam could not commit such crimes.”
Agence France Presse, September 14, 2001

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[Jeffrey]

Actually…Islam is Satanism. The guy that started this ‘religion’ was a pedophile/rapist/murderer. Blah.

StratusRose:

Very Good posts, Matt25! I was waiting for someone to chime in with those quotations!

That sign is satanic and of the devil if you ask me. It’s counterproductive and it appeals to only Christians. No respect at all. How are we supposed to evangelize people of other religions when signs like these put them down? If I had seen a sign saying “Protestants are going to hell” two years ago, I would have never had converted to Catholicism. You attract more bees with honey than with vinegar people!

My favorite part of the story was this…"I believe that it is a statement supporting the word of God and that it (the Bible) is above all and that any other religious book that does not teach Christ as savior and lord as the 66 books of the Bible teaches it, is wrong," said Lovelace." Umm. there are more than 66, pal.

 

[Jeffrey]

Now that I re-read your post…it is I who will apologize.

Sorry.

Peace.
space ghost:

…you misunderstand my post Jeff… i was saying that we argue with those that differ from us on somethings, it’s only on the areas that we agree that we would allow any measure of credibility…
…in other words some of the very ones high-fiving the Baptist on dissing the Koran will be roasting them on their mentla capacity concerning other subjects… i too can agree on “Truths”… and no one thinks you are a bigot nor has accused you of being one… if i have offended you, i apologize…

Peace:thumbsup:

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[StratusRose]

Jeffrey:

Actually…Islam is Satanism. The guy that started this ‘religion’ was a pedophile/rapist/murderer. Blah.

And by “that guy” do you mean Mohammed? Where did you get your information from? I know he was a war mongerer but I never heard that before.

Look, you won’t ever catch me saying that Islam is a religion of peace, because it’s not. But how did that ridiculous sign benefit that community? It pissed people off, including me because they way to peace is not by belittling people of other religions.

 

[Jeffrey]

Yep…Mohammed. There are quite a few links…Mohammed married a 6 year old girl. If I come across any…i’ll post’m. But this forum has quite a few of them already.

I like the sign because – to me it says the Truth. We need to get rid of the Koran.

StratusRose:

And by “that guy” do you mean Mohammed? Where did you get your information from? I know he was a war mongerer but I never heard that before.

Look, you won’t ever catch me saying that Islam is a religion of peace, because it’s not. But how did that ridiculous sign benefit that community? It pissed people off, including me because they way to peace is not by belittling people of other religions.

 

[StratusRose]

Jeffrey:

Yep…Mohammed. There are quite a few links…Mohammed married a 6 year old girl. If I come across any…i’ll post’m. But this forum has quite a few of them already.

I like the sign because – to me it says the Truth. We need to get rid of the Koran.

Still waiting for reliable sources…

Koran needs to be flushed? Yeah, well chalk that up on the list of things that will never happen.

There was no truth to that sign. It was simply an opinionated statement. It was immature, uncalled for, and unnecessary.

 

[FightingFat]

Jeffrey:

Call me bigoted if ya want.

Bigot!

 

[FightingFat]

StratusRose:

And by “that guy” do you mean Mohammed? Where did you get your information from? I know he was a war mongerer but I never heard that before.

Look, you won’t ever catch me saying that Islam is a religion of peace, because it’s not. But how did that ridiculous sign benefit that community? It pissed people off, including me because they way to peace is not by belittling people of other religions.

:clapping:

 

[Mijoy2]

garfield:

This sign is an appalling thing to put outside a church, every Moslem who sees it will think that is what Christians feel about them! This is no way to behave

It’s not the way a follower of Christ would behave.