Being gay, lesbian, transgender

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Why do some try commit suicide because of what they are, if it was a choice they could do something about it!!!

Let’s hear from someone who has SSA and see what they think.
 
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Dear SuperSam,
The feelings are real. The energy behind the feeling is multifactoral! It is! You and I are to love God, w our whole mind, our whole strength and to love our neighbors, as we are to love ourselves.
God loves us all! We are on a journey back home to heaven. Heterosexual or homosexual, this earth is temporary. Now, our train takes us through some rusty tracks, depending how we think, that train can get derailed. We don’t want to get off that train. There are LIONS AND TIGERS SND BEARS THERE! OH MY! (Wizard of Oz)
There is sin, off the tracks. What is sin? It is choices that pull us from God & His will for us. Temptation pulls us to do that, which we should not. Overeating, drunkenness, Hate, Grudges, Sex, outside of marriage. Sex, used in manners, for which it was not created. S&M. Same sex attractions. Anal sex! Forgive me here, that space has a dirty job, why would anyone want to invade that space??? Besides my delicacy, sex is for pro-creation. We are to be pure in mind, body and soul, on our journey. Our Thoughts must have nice, good thoughts on the trip. That keeps the tracks in good shape.
Sex is beautiful between husband and wife. There are some ways to have variety, without turning into an Olympic sport. It is Holy. Corny as it sounds.
All of us are to be chaste till death, unless married. Happiness is defined in our relationship w God. Our journey is supernatural for our Spirits but our body is dragged along. Like a Halloween costume. It’s left behind when we die.
So heterosexual & homosexuals will be annoyed at times w NO SEX! Our lives should be filled w church and serving God in the world. Our job, vacation areas, family, God is w us, while we’re there. No sex till the wedding night! HUH! Yep!
You shall have NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME. Why God picks on sex, it separates us from God.,Does it feel good, Yes.Is it good for non-marrieds=NO! Happiness doesn’t get you to heaven. Being in Gods will does.
Physical vs Spiritual happiness, follow your Spirit, not your flesh. Look up to God, not horizontal to man(flesh).
Your body has a pattern. A shirt has a head/neck area. It has sleeves and a waist. You put the shirt on One way. Don’t mix up holes. There is a natural order of living beings. Follow the pattern. God says No! His reasoning is aforementioned. What FEELS GOOD! Is not ALWAYS GOOD FOR YOU!
Feel Gods love! Look for your path. Be busy in living,so you don’t give into lusts of the body. JEREMIAH 29/11. Ephesians 3: 14-21.
Holy Spirit let my words, be Your words, comfort and strengthen my spiritual brother. In Jesus name
Amen
 
I am unable to make sense of that statement. Can you rephrase that if you would please?
 
LateCatholic said:
Then where are all the threads calling oral sex and masturbation perverse?
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Somewhere. Click the Magnifying glass…
LateCatholic said:
Look - I’m actually OK with the Church being against homosexuality. It’s a battle they will eventually lose.
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I find that will not be the case. Pressure from secular society will not change church teaching
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I am STRONGLY against the Church imposing their twisted morality on the secular institution of marriage.
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I am STRONGLY against the state and secular society imposing their morality on religious institutions
 
Its not just there choices its the choices of others around them such as family.
 
God created us man or woman .Read bible Genesis. Anything else is from our society,enviroment.
 
theCardinalbird said:
I am STRONGLY against the Church imposing their twisted morality on the secular institution of marriage.
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Looks like we are in agreement.
The Church is not required to provide for or support same sex marriage in any way.
Now you do the same - leave the secular same sex marriage alone and stop trying to stop it.
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LateCatholic said:
Now you do the same - leave the secular same sex marriage alone and stop trying to stop it.
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Well in matter of legality, it is not possible to stop something that majority of society agrees is a right. If society (for whatever reason) thinks that it was wrong to legalize gay marriage, then the law would be changed, this however is very unlikely because society has changed its morals.
 
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Not sexual feelings, no. I had a crush on a boy in kindergarten. He had these big, brown puppy dog eyes…

But just to be clear I noticed boys in a way didn’t notice girls. I reacted to boys in a way that I didn’t to girls.
 
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Supersam said:
I feel as though it doesn’t matter what a gay couple do if they were the best people on the planet If they help the poor, give to charity etc etc if they sleep together whatever they do is a waste of time because it’s all over looked because they sinned by sleeping together. What about the good in gay people is this all voided out because they have had sex together?
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God being just, he recompenses all good that one does. But when we are not in a state of grace, all the good we do can not be rewarded by glory in Heaven, God will in this case reward by giving natural goods in this world or by giving graces , which can help to the conversion.
 
I have a crush on someone at work, I don’t want it and I will not pursue it.

I do have sexual feelings towards my wife though.
 
A crush should be innocent and temporary. There is also something called a “squish” which is probably a more accurate term, that is if the word was more widely used. A squish is a platonic crush.
 
theCardinalbird said:
If society (for whatever reason) thinks that it was wrong to legalize gay marriage, then the law would be changed, this however is very unlikely because society has changed its morals.
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Not true - the vast majority of people were against interracial marriage when it was legalized. That’s why we have a Constitution. The majority does not rule.
 
LateCatholic said:
Not true - the vast majority of people were against interracial marriage when it was legalized. That’s why we have a Constitution. The majority does not rule.
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Ok that’s fair to say. But demographic change does have an effect on laws. Also society’s changes in value does effect law. That’s is not false. Also yes, the idea I originally had that the right to gay “marriage” can be removed by popular vote is in error
 
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Sean said:
Its not just there choices its the choices of others around them such as family.
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What choices did a gay person’s family make that made them gay? And did the families of straight people make choices that made their children straight? If this is true, then there could be a checklist of things that parents have to do to make sure that their children turn out straight and things to avoid doing to make sure that their children don’t turn out gay.

My dad took me out to shoot guns (ie target practice) and my uncle took me hunting. You’d think that those manly activities would have made me straight, but they didn’t. And I’ve always had a great relationship with my dad, and my mother, too. I had a normal and happy childhood, so I wonder where my parents went wrong so that I turned out gay?
 
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  1. It’s not a sin to experience same sex attraction.
  2. There is no definite answer on whether there is a “gay” gene or not.
  3. Same sex friendships are not sinful.
For me, it comes back to how I grew up, I believe it was largely environmental. Not a lot of close male friendships in my life. Things are finally changing now, we all have legitimate needs for relationships with same and opposite sex. They need to be good holy relationships though.
 
I didn’t feel very close to my father growing up and hated typical male activities. Never involved in sports, dad was always working, mainly around mom, aunt, and grandma. I think parents should make sure their kids are developing well socially instead of just neglecting that. Gosh, felt so outcasted from peers for so long.
 
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