Being gay, lesbian, transgender

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A Catholic believes the Church has a twisted view of morality? That’s a first for me to hear.

I find the Church’s teaching on morality acceptable to say the least and beautiful personally.
 
That’s not the point. It is being marketed as a new option for young people.
 
That’s assuming he created homosexual attractions. I’m born a lot of things, a birth defect being one of them…however God didn’t make me this way.

Even our personality has aspects that were shaped by situations we went through.
How do you know that God didn’t make you with a birth defect? In Jeremiah 1: 4-5 it says:
4 Now the word of the Lord came to me saying,

5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you"
So, if God formed all of us in the womb, how is He not responsible for any birth defects we might have? I have ADHD which I likely inherited from one of my parents since it is highly heritable and a number of genes have been linked to it. I’m not sure I want to let God off the hook for making me this way.
 
I’m not sure I want to let God off the hook for making me this way.
We all have to play the hand we’re dealt.
Each one of us can make the decision to go into our day with God. I’ve lived without God for the first part of my life and let me tell you, life with God is better. A 100 times better.
God has a plan for your life and for my life. We both can bring down graces onto this world, or we can make it darker. Which one do you want? I want holiness here, and heaven for my retirement. I hope you chose that today too.
 
You do realize that it’s OK to be angry with God sometimes. You should try reading Jeremiah where he says to God (15:18):
Why is my pain unceasing,
my wound incurable,
refusing to be healed?
Truly, you are to me like a deceitful brook,
like waters that fail.
Saying that God is like a deceitful brook or waters that fail is pretty strong.
 
so god isn’t saying being gay is a sin he’s saying that commiting any type of gay act I.e. Sleeping with the same sex is a sin? Is that basically what is being said? What about gay married couples who bring a child into the world or adopt a child that has been left or abused by a married heterosexual couples and the married homosexuals who care for this child and give them a better life, are things like this not seen by god and for him to think you have given someone a better life or does he think oh okay well you have basically saved a child and given them a great chance at life but you gay couple sleep together so giving that child a good life doesn’t count. I feel as though it doesn’t matter what a gay couple do if they were the best people on the planet If they help the poor, give to charity etc etc if they sleep together whatever they do is a waste of time because it’s all over looked because they sinned by sleeping together. What about the good in gay people is this all voided out because they have had sex together? I’m just curious again it’s an interesting topic
 
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I disagree with this because what about people who suffer from depression? Your saying that god gave them what he knows they can handle? Why do people who suffer from depression kill themsleves if god truly knows they can handle it? If he knew they could handle it then why do they take their own lives then?
 
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But I don’t understand this. We all want to go to heaven but surely even if you are gay or anything as long as you are not inflicting pain on others you should be able to go to heaven. What about the decent people who don’t follow god but do amazing things for the world will they not go to heaven? If your not hurting others and living a happy life and even making others happy and changing lives for the better it must count for something, regardless of wether you follow god? I believe in god I believe in Jesus but I am not a saint at all and I’m sure I have sinned at some
Point in my life but I have never inflicted pain on others, I raise money for charity and help others as much as I can. I help people become fitter and healthier by being a personal trainer surely that counts for something right?
 
I disagree with this because what about people who suffer from depression? Your saying that god gave them what he knows they can handle? Why do people who suffer from depression kill themsleves if god truly knows they can handle it? If he knew they could handle it then why do they take their own lives then?
Because some people despair and give up. It doesn’t mean it was absolutely impossible to overcome it.
 
God knows the crosses we carry are different, some are even lighter, others are taller, some are heavier in the front, others are heavier in the back. God is not blind to this. Neither is he blind to the knowledge we have or the level of consent we give. This is all taken into account in whether we’ve turned our backs on him or not. It’s not just a checklist. This isn’t an excuse to be passive to sin, but God doesn’t throw these things out the window.
 
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That is where we move from paraphrasing Scripture to the world of bumper sticker slogans.

Some people are given more than they can bear. It happens every day that someone has a physical or mental breakdown. God never made such a promise.

What He did promise is that our fellow Christians will help us through the hard times, that we are supposed to bear one another’s burdens, that if we have our interior life in the proper order that we can have peace in the midst of suffering.
 
Or maybe he means that even though the church does not agree with homosexuality it doesn’t mean it’s going to go away or be something that the world is going to get rid of. If we go to hell for sins why do we have psychics who can speak to the dead or relatives and these relatives say it is beautiful where they are and that they are okay? Even ones who have sinned and don’t follow god?
 
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If we go to hell for sins why do we have psychics who can speak to the dead or relatives and these relatives say it is beautiful where they are and that they are okay? Even ones who have sinned and don’t follow god?
Those psychics are:
  1. Not actually using psychic “powers” and are just lying.
  2. At worst, are actually speaking to a demon.
 
So how are they able to tell you things that only you would know that are personal?
 
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So how are they able to tell you things that only you would know that are personal?
Say I tell you, for instance, “I see a conflict (or struggle) between you and someone you care for.” It’s pretty vague, but likely to be the case for many people. It makes it easier if the other person says a name, but a skilled liar can dig something up, especially if the person seeking psychic services is there for that reason. It’ll be easier to ply it out of them. Is there a ring dent on their wedding finger? Sounds like problems in the love life. They can say, “I see one to whom you were bound to in love”. That statement can be a catch-all for deceased spouses and divorced ones as well.


As for demons, they’re hyper-intelligent and perceptive. They just have to monitor your behavior to know your quirks.
 
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Supersam, Jesus does say “When you fed the hungry, clothed the naked… You did it for me”. That’s how much he loves us, that when we help someone, he says you did it for me. When we die, we will come before the judgement seat of God and that is very sobering. For today though, your story is still being told! I would like you to pray every day, especially before you start your day, to say “Jesus, today I am going to love YOU when I help people today. Help me to be pleasing to you, and help me and guide me every day”. Start that conversation today! Believe me, when you say that, Jesus will smile!
 
We would never want for those readers who may have had a physical or mental breakdown, those faithful Catholics who cannot deal with something, to think that they just did not have enough faith or grace.

We are human. We do not ascribe to the health and wealth prosperity gospel. We know that suffering is part of our Christian walk.
 
Well, what you are saying is here entirely different thing from what you originally said you see. You had said that being gay or transgender is a choice and the example you gave was of a woman who made a choice as to her actions, not a choice with regard to what her sexual proclivities were. As to the people you work with, that is not a broad sample. For instance, I do not have much time for a social life because of my work but I do know a lot of people in that I have had well over a thousand employees over time. Within that sampling, I have only known about ten to be gay and one to be transgender, but that is just my small world and it may be due to other factors such as the type of work they do and the sorts of people who gravitate toward computer science and electrical engineering, I simply don’t know. But I have read up on the matter, and qualified experts have demonstrably shown through peer reviewed and published studies that it is not a choice. And while I have great respect for direct experience, in matters such as this it doesn’t offer an alternative for the broader work of professionals. The problem is that some churches are struggling with the matter by trying to shoehorn the whole corpus of the modern intellect on many issues to fit the ancient imaginations of their founders, and they are finding it an untenable task. While they have found very elegant ways to sidestep the dichotomies with very well thought apologetics, the result is that we end up with threads such as this. Because in creating enough wiggle room to rectify their prior teachings with the modern world, they by necessity also create enough wiggle room for misunderstanding among the rank and file, coupled with a profound denial of the human condition, whereas it just isn’t realistic to tell people not to have sex, which is the crux of the matter. It seems rather curious that certain institutions that have failed so greatly in matters of sexual misbehavior and criminal abuse would consider themselves in any way qualified to instruct anyone on such matters. It leads me very honestly to wonder if sexual repression, control and guilt mongering has in fact led to anything more than few millennia of unnecessary suffering heaped upon the suffering we already endure. These are honest and direct concerns that I have and they are on the minds of many people of all faiths.

All the best!
 
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