Beto O’Rourke on Third-Trimester Abortions: Should be Decision the Woman Makes

  • Thread starter Thread starter Cathoholic
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
vz71 said:
I am sorry, but I am unclear what exactly the state is forcing upon women.
Click to expand...
They would be forced to forgo their currently legal option of terminating the pregnancy before delivery.

As if that were not obvious.
 
Last edited:
Are you saying that as long as these gruesome abortions are rare it isn’t a concern?
 
Last edited:
Jeanne_S said:
Are you saying that as long as these gruesome abortions are rare it isn’t a concern?
Click to expand...
No. All are of concern. Moreover, it is arguable that ones that the ones that account for ~99% of all abortions are more of a concern than the ones that account for ~1%.
 
Last edited:
dvdjs said:
How could that be?
I hope that you will clarify that you did not actually mean to suggest that I support abortion.
Click to expand...
I withdraw my statement. I got the 99% and 1% in your post backwards.

No I never meant to suggest you support abortion.
 
Last edited:
vz71 said:
Do you think that is a bad thing?
Click to expand...
The question is too vague. Something can be “bad” or not, from a variety of perspectives.
From a moral perspective it may not be a bad thing for government to outlaw adultery or contraception. But can the same be argued from the perspective of public policy in our country?
 
vz71 said:
Is it a bad thing that late term abortion be made illegal?
Click to expand...
Restricting my response to the perspective of public policy: it strongly depends, for example, on whether that comes about with or without the consent of the governed.
 
Last edited:
(name removed by moderator) . . .
I’d say given it often arises due to medical need . . .
Click to expand...
What “often” arises due to medical “need”?
 
Last edited:
That is the state of things since Roe v. Wade. The third trimester restrictions are, broadly, the health and life of the mother. Some recent legislation has added language about viability, such that women would not be compelled to carry to term if it were essentially certain that the child could not servive outside the womb.
 
Last edited:
(name removed by moderator) . . .
My mother was warned near the end of her pregnancy that she stood a good chance of dying due to blood loss.
Click to expand...
Objectively speaking (not about your mother’s subjective case), this is an indication for a C-section.

Not an abortion.

There is no medical indication for late term abortion experts tell us.
 
Last edited:
This is a specious argument for late term abortion…How would a gruesome later term abortion be less risky than a c-section.?
Additionally,the whole premise that a woman can if desires,choose to terminate based on the prognosis of incompatible with life theory.This has been proven to be wrong over and over.Think Rick Santorum’s daughter.
 
Last edited:
dvdjs said:
Restricting my response to the perspective of public policy: it strongly depends, for example, on whether that comes about with or without the consent of the governed.
Click to expand...
Why are you so afraid to say that making abortion illegal is a good thing?
 
Jeanne_S said:
This is a specious argument for late term abortion…
Click to expand...
I noted the current state of the law. I made no argument for late term abortions, and do not appreciate being falsely accused of that.
 
Last edited:
Cathoholic said:
There is no medical indication for late term abortion experts tell us.
Click to expand...
Consider a case of fetal abnormality in which lungs failed to develop. If delivered the child would die in minutes. Suppose also that there is a complications such as preeclampsia that put the mother at continuing risk.

I have no issue with what the church asks a properly formed Catholic to do in this situation, but I do not see a role for the state, governing a pluralistic society, in prescribing a medical course of action that puts the mother at risk to deliver a non-viable child.
 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top