Beto O’Rourke on Third-Trimester Abortions: Should be Decision the Woman Makes

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vz71 said:
Why are you so afraid to say that making abortion illegal is a good thing?
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Why do you assume fear?
I am disinclined to virtue signal.
I would prefer a serious conversation that might lead to a viable path forward to address this serious matter.
 
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dvdjs . . .
Consider a case of fetal abnormality in which lungs failed to develop. If delivered the child would die in minutes. Suppose also that there is a complications such as preeclampsia that put the mother at continuing risk.
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OK. I’ve considered it and came to the same conclusion.

No indication to kill off the baby.
 
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No indication to kill off the baby.
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Good for you to say. And I agree.
Others don’t agree. The question is what should the government compel them to do and by why should it do that.
 
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Then you need to show us why using supporting evidence from experts.
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I don’t need to show you anything.

As I said. You can take it or leave it.

No late-term abortion indicated. Ever.
 
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This is not a topic on which without that any such blank statements can be taken seriously.
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Then don’t take it seriously.

No medical indication for late term abortion. Ever.
 
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I certainly don’t take seriously such blank declarations without peer-reviewed studies or evidence for both sides of the case from medical professionals.
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(name removed by moderator). I am disappointed you are making such an argument.

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We’ll get right on it. We’ll randomize and double-blind a study where we kill babies that we could just as well deliver, vrs. delivery.

The Human Studies Committee ought to approve of this real quick too.

Then we will mask the results and have the outcomes independently reviewed.

Then we will have it peer reviewed, and publish it.

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Think about what you are suggesting.

I will repeat.

No medical indication for late term abortion. Ever.
 
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Reductio ab absurdium.
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Cathoholic (yet again) . . .

No medical indication for late term abortion. Ever.
 
I wasn’t accusing you it was a broad statement re the law as it stands,it’s a specious law,no need to be so prickly
 
Indeed, I can keep repeating propositions as well without evidence in that style. It is not helpful to this kind of debate.
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Well helpful or not.

You just presented a case (blood loss) that (objectively) calls for induction of labor, or a c-section, and/or a transfusion. (I won’t comment on your mother).

Yet you said the indication here is to murder the baby.

I am not going to “debate” such a foolhardy statement (or your offshoots of it).

You are on your own.
 
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dvdjs said:
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7_Sorrows:
What is so difficult to understand
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You hve not explained why 'it should be obvious why people who support late term abortion are a cause for alarm."
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I am sorry, but no explanation should be
required. If one is needed, we really have a problem.
 
7_Sorrows said:
If one is needed, we really have a problem.
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My fear is that the explaination, were one to be offered, treads into a dangerous area that somehow sees the 99% of early and restricted abortion as less of a problem than the relatively rare and relatively restricted late-term abortions.
 
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I am sorry, but no explanation should be
required. If one is needed, we really have a problem.
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That’s right 7_Sorrows.

If an explanation is required, there is a built-in presupposition, that the person may be less than a person.

Or it is a food fight as to which persons it is OK to kill.

Neither of these scenarios are appropriate foundations.
 
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You want some commentary on the issues around abortion and it’s practical effects on doctors and medical personnel?
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I never asked for this.

Are you addressing this to someone else here or me?
 
Every abortion is a problem.

You keep saying how rare the late term abortion. Do you have a number that is acceptable then? That makes it okay?
 
This issue of the thread remains.

Beto supports this.
( For those who may not know, “Beto” is the person on the left below.
Not one of the two persons on the right.
Picture from my OP.)
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Beto of corse is wrong here.

He should support ALL persons. And life for ALL persons.
 
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