Biden doubles down on abortion law pledge - Biden repeated his pledge to codify a right to abortion

[Nepperhan]

You say he doesn’t endorse abortion, he says he will codify it in law if Roe is overturned . What do you think this means. You can deny what he says but he said it. He can say I personally whatever, his actions speak louder than his words. His actions show him to support abortion.

Partisan media made up Biden saying ‘abortion under any circumstances’. Now we find it posted on this forum. Twice.

Mistrust memes. Hoaxes are a real problem.

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[Victoria33]

The Democrats have shown they are veering towards infanticide as well.

They represent Planned Parenthood. Same as voting for PP.

It is also horrible if these policies are prompted overseas

 

[MagdalenaRita]

Mr. Biden, who many Catholics support, some here at CAF, has thumbed his nose up at the Catholic church by not just supporting same sex marriage but by performing a same sex “marriage”. He has also thumbed his nose up at the Catholic church by pushing and promoting the Democrat agenda of so called “women’s healthcare”, in other words abortion. He will lead many astray way down into the future; our children and our grandchildren. It could lead to the death of anyone here’s grandchildren.

Thing that gets me is, some Catholics are ignoring these issues, or choosing to turn a blind eye to them, or putting money/tax breaks ahead of these issues and also ignoring the Bishops.

And to top it off, voting for Mr. Biden, especially by Catholics, only encourages him in these sins, sins that are grave and very likely could cost him his eternal soul.

What happened to love your neighbor? Encouraging him is not loving him.

 

[upant]

After Mr. Trump

Why do you deflect to trump? Show me where Biden said he is okay with Roe being overturned and won’t do anything to advance abortion. He didn’t, he isn’t. Why is he stating he will take steps to make sure abortion is legal in all states if Roe is overturned? He supports abortion, period, end of statement

Say what you want, his words are clear.

 

[WingedHussar]

Then we start the trials for crimes against humanity.

 

[Cathoholic]

Cathoholic to Soubirous1 . . .

Now show me all of Joe Biden’s pro-life statements since he was a candidate.

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Soubirous1 to Cathoholic . . .

I can’t find any of his (Biden’s) posts here on CAF.

Parenthetical mine for context.

To the readers. There ya have it.

Soubirous1 ignores the abortion issue in Soubirous1’s response here
for a changed narrative to
Joe Biden posting on Catholic Answers Forums.

Inappropriate response in my opinion.

 

[Soubirous1]

I’ve never said biden isn’t completely for abortion. he is definitely a baby killer. where did you read anything different?

 

[Cathoholic]

Soubirous1 . . .

I’ve never said biden isn’t completely for abortion. he is definitely a baby killer.

Bold mine.

Thanks for saying that Soubirous1. It needed to be said.

I’ve never said biden isn’t completely for abortion.

And I have not said you mentioned this.

But I thought your recent post going to Biden not posting here on Catholic Answers Forums was a deflection.

But your last statement was great! Unequivocal. Honest.

Biden IS “definitely a baby killer” as you said (Biden is a baby killer regarding the political realm).

 

[Soubirous1]

you said i ignored the abortion issue iirc

 

[Cathoholic]

Soubirous1 . . .

you said i ignored the abortion issue iirc

That is a partial truth.

I said you ignored the abortion issue on that post (“here”).

And you did ignore the abortion issue on that post.

Here is that post from you again where you DID ignore the abortion issue and said something about Joe Biden posting on Catholic Answers Forums.

Here again is your whole post . . .

I can’t find any of his posts here on CAF. just dealing with the cards I’m dealt here Cathoholic…

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Here is what I said again (see it here) . . . . .

Soubirous1 ignores the abortion issue in Soubirous1’s response HERE . . .

New emphasis on my quote now for context.

 

[Soubirous1]

abortion was not relevant to me saying posting something not true was deceptive.

 

[Soubirous1]

let’s get something straight. I’m not here to back either candidate. i think both are equally dog poop on the shoe of America. one thing i have learned is trump supporters can’t take criticism at all. I don’t understand that???

 

[Cathoholic]

Soubirous1 to Cathoholic . . .

let’s get something straight. I’m not here to back either candidate.

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Cathoholic to Soubirous1

let’s get something straight. I criticized your post where we were explicitly discussing the abortion issue for deflecting regarding Joe Biden not posting posts here at Catholic Answers Forums. Not for who you were backing as a candidate.

Soubirous1 on Joe Biden and President Trump . . .

think both are equally dog poop on the shoe of America.

Well think whatever you want.

But they are clearly NOT “equally” dealing with the murder of preborn children.

Biden is clearly all-in for abortion.

President Trump on the other hand has been fighting for life. President Trump actually puts forth policy that pushes back against abortion. You can see even Planned Parenthood admit (whine about) that.

 

[Soubirous1]

you brought it up but we never discussed it. i made a statement that people shouldn’t post things they know aren’t true trying to mislead people. you changed the subject to abortion

 

[Cathoholic]

Soubirous1 . . .

i made a statement that people shouldn’t post things they know aren’t true trying to mislead people.

And so did I.

Soubirous1 . . .

you changed the subject to abortion

Bold mine.

No Soubirous1. I maintained the subject on abortion. That’s what my OP was all about.
Biden and his radical pro-abortion positions.

 

[Soubirous1]

you stated, maybe joe forgot. you knew op wasn’t true

 

[Cathoholic]

Soubirous1 . . .

you knew op wasn’t true

No I don’t.

The OP is true.

Here it is again:

Biden doubles down on abortion law pledge​

CNA Staff, Oct 6, 2020 / 09:30 am MT (CNA).-

Former vice president Joe Biden, the Democratic Party’s nominee for president, repeated his pledge to codify a right to abortion into federal law should the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision be overturned by the Supreme Court.

Speaking at an outdoor town hall event airing on NBC Monday, Biden was asked what he would do to protect “reproductive health rights” should Judge Amy Coney Barrett be confirmed to the Supreme Court.

“Number one, we don’t know exactly what [Barrett] will do, although the expectation is that she may very well move to overrule Roe , and what the only thing–the only responsible response to that would be to pass legislation making Roe the law of the land,” said Biden. “That’s what I would do.”

After decades of reservations about unrestricted abortion and Roe v. Wade , which he originally said went “too far,” Biden committed during the 2019 Democratic primary contest to enshrining the full extent of the decision into law.

Kirsten Day, executive director of Democrats for Life of America, responded to Biden’s renewed pledge, saying it was “sad to see [Biden] move from recognizing the humanity of preborn children to pledging to make abortion the law of the land if elected.”

"Pro-Life Democrats, we have to mobilize . . .

. . . On Tuesday, Trump said that “Joe Biden just took a more Liberal position on Roe v. Wade than Elizabeth Warren at her highest.”

Trump also said that Biden “wants to PACK our great United States Supreme Court." Biden was asked if he would support court-packing were he elected following a Barrett confirmation during the presidential debate last week, he declined to answer.

The president also noted that Biden had endorsed Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam, who sparked controversy in January 2019 after he said that if a baby were sufficiently disabled at birth, it could be “kept comfortable” and might be resuscitated if the mother wished, and there could be a “conversation” between doctors and the mother. . . .

. . . The Democratic Party platform has rapidly evolved on abortion rights during the 21st century. As recently as 2004, the platform was calling for abortion to be “Safe, legal, and rare.” The 2020 platform was the first to call for a codification of abortion rights into law, in addition to calls for the repeal of the Hyde Amendment and Mexico City Policy, which limit U.S. tax dollars from funding abortions.

Despite the Church’s absolute condemnation of abortion as the taking of an innocent human life, Biden has frequently . . . .

. . . "the only responsible response to that would be to pass legislation making Roe the law of the land,” said Biden. “That’s what I would do.” – Joe Biden​

 

[Soubirous1]

and when someone called you on the fact the president doesn’t have the power you said i know. you posted for your own agenda. done talking now as it’s going nowhere.
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[Cathoholic]

Soubirous1 . . .

and when someone called you on the fact the president doesn’t have the power you said i know.

So what?

If you are a journalism source . . . You quote Biden on what he says. Period.

The OP source was right on that.

You do NOT CHANGE what Biden or anyone else said and think that is “honest” journalism.

If what Biden said was wrong, take it up with Biden (who said it). Not my sources who accurately quoted it.

That being said, a president COULD write legislation in the sense of writing it, then having someone in Congress introduce it.

That’s what happened with ObamaCare. You realize these things don’t you Soubirous1?

 

[Cathoholic]

“As president, I will codify Roe v. Wade and my Justice Department will do everything in its power to stop the rash of state laws that so blatantly violate a woman’s protected, constitutional right to choose.” – Presidential Candidate Joseph Biden​