It is an overused phrase because it is an overused tactic. For a while the phrase “begging the question” was overused as that was constantly being done.Whataboutism is an overused phrase that isn’t really an issue.
One of the objectives of law is to enforce morality. Or have you forgotten this from the Catechism?The law does not define morality.
You said they support the mother’s right to choose to kill the babies they don’t want. What you’re doing is playing a semantics game. No one who believes the baby is a human being will support a so-called right to “choose” to kill it. These people are not pro-life. Calling them that is falsehood.No. They are pro-life. They oppose abortion.
Yes! All lives are equally sacred! Now, having recognized this, it’s time to vote for people who will protect those threatened with death. From the list provided in the above quote, only those exposed to covert euthenasia face the immediate threat of death.“Our defense of innocent unborn, for example, needs to be clear, firm and passionate,” continued the pope. “ Equally sacred, however, are the lives of the poor, those already born, the destitute, the abandoned and the underprivileged, the vulnerable infirm and elderly exposed to covert euthanasia, the victims of human trafficking, new forms of slavery, and every form of rejection .”
Why reduce everything to a Republican and Democrat issue? You were wrong about law. It’s okay to admit it.So vote for the guy that appeared in a Playboy video?
So civil authorities shouldn’t work to eliminate the production and distribution of pornography?The law doesn’t define morality, especially in a multicultural society such as America.
Well when I brought it up you compared that to Sharia law and brought up Spain and Ireland (let me guess, the laundries?).On whether or not civil authorities should work to eliminate the production and distribution of pornography? Well, speech can be limited despite the First Amendment, so, no, I don’t really have a problem with it.
And what ‘human principles’ are laws based on? Utilitarian? Marxist? Secular humanist? What are the justifications for such principles? Could it be… a sense of morality?Laws need to stand on imperfect human principles, not religious ones.
Great let’s talk Aristotle and the natural law tradition epitomized in Aquinas.Going down a long path starting with the Greek philosophers and political theorists like Locke.
Can you tell me how morality is defined in the absence of religion?I didn’t say that you don’t have a moral basis for a law. I said that a law shouldn’t be dictated by a religion.
Aristotle had reference to a prime mover and worked within a paradigm that recognized ultimate ends. Have you read the Marquis de Sade? Max Stirner?You mean, like Aristotle did?
Okay. I take it you aren’t familiar with either Sade or Stirner. I’d recommend, by the former, the pamphlet “One More Effort, Frenchmen, If You Would Be Republicans.”A prime mover is hardly the same as the Old Testament God, New Testament God or Islamic god.
You compared legislation against pornography to Sharia law as an appeal to emotion. You also saidWhich part of my position is fundamentally wrong?
Laws need to stand on imperfect human principles, not religious ones.
It is his opinion. there are other opinions, such as those of the secular humanists. For example, the atheist Michael Shermer has written a book called the Moral Arc which proposes that the scientific way of thinking has made people, and society as a whole, more moral.And yet as Max Stirner so forcefully demonstrated, in the absence of a god morality is simply a bogeyman.
Utilitarianism is a respectable branch of philosophy, or at least Jeremy Bentham, John Stuart Mill, Henry Sidgwick, Peter Singer, and G.E. Moore think so.That is not a philosophical argument. That is a utilitarian argument. Sade, Stirner, Nietzsche, Tucker, Bataille, Klossowski eviscerated the idea of morality without a god. And they did so in philosophical language
I never said that. Please don’t put words in my mouth.You said they support the mother’s right to choose to kill the babies they don’t want.