Biden picks Kamala Harris as running mate

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Dr_Meinheimer said:
The key to this election is going to be driving turnout. The VP pick rarely moves the needle, but if it turns off people on the fence or who don’t like either candidate much, that is not a good thing.
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Yes, Pence might have that effect.
 
Ridgerunner said:
True. There is no way abortion supporters will fail to be negatively affected by him.
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Haha. I was thinking more of his adoring looks at Trump and his role as chief sycophant.

Plus, Pence is being set up as the fall guy for the administration’s failed covid-19 response. The bus is being warmed up, and he is going to be kicked under it any day now. I give a 10% chance that he’s replaced by someone else.
 
MikeInVA said:
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FrankFletcher:
No, she did her job by inquiring whether a judicial nominee could abide by the Constitution first and his personal religious beliefs second.
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Please explain how this squares with the First Amendment?
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You ask the quintessential question. It does not.
There seems to be a false assumption that somehow a person whose worldview is molded by religious beliefs needs to have viewed suspiciously, or that they need to agree to put their religious views in a box.
Not sure if Harris will abide by the Constitution herself, considering she suggested the idea that all new abortion laws should have to get pre-clearance by her DOJ. Perhaps she can show where in the constitution the executive branch has veto power over proposed state laws.
 
Shockingly, choosing Harris seems to have confirmed what everyone already thought. If you don’t like Trump, this was a great pick. If you like Trump, it was a horrible misstep.

I don’t know why anyone bothers with politics threads anymore. It’s just rehashing the same points over and over. It’s not like minds are being changed at this point.
 
If Kamala Harris can make the point that Knights of Columbus is not a fitting organization for an American judge, leader, or politician, because KofC is anti-abortion and anti-gay marriage, how long until she (or someone else) can say it isn’t fitting that an American judge, leader or politician is not fit for office because he (or she) belongs to the Catholic Church (since it teaches that same thing as the Knights of Columbus)? Or any other religious group that Kamala doesn’t approve of?
How can a Catholic support this religious bigot?
 
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PaulinVA said:
Plus, Pence is being set up as the fall guy for the administration’s failed covid-19 response. The bus is being warmed up, and he is going to be kicked under it any day now. I give a 10% chance that he’s replaced by someone else.
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The first part is certainly true, but I don’t know if there is a realistic opportunity to replace him now. Among other things, he has been a big part of Trump’s connection to the white evangelicals. On the other hand, Trump may believe he no longer needs Pence for that.
 
TMC said:
On the other hand, Trump may believe he no longer needs Pence for that.
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Yep. I think they are all in on Trump himself. He needs to broaden the base without alienating it. Tough act, and I’m not sure who it would be.
 
27lw said:
If Kamala Harris can make the point that Knights of Columbus is not a fitting organization for an American judge, leader, or politician, because KofC is anti-abortion and anti-gay marriage, how long until she (or someone else) can say it isn’t fitting that an American judge, leader or politician is not fit for office because he (or she) belongs to the Catholic Church (since it teaches that same thing as the Knights of Columbus)? Or any other religious group that Kamala doesn’t approve of?
How can a Catholic support this religious bigot?
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It will not surprise me for Harris to use Joe Biden a model Catholic. If she gets attacked on the KoC, and its views on abortion and marriage, she will point out that Joe is Catholic and he supports abortion rights and same sex marriage (even performing one as VP)
 
I wonder if the USCCB will say anything against her criticism of the Knights of Columbus.
 
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FrankFletcher said:
Probably because Catholics are often loudly and vehemently anti-abortion and abortion is currently legal.
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Should the same have been applied to slavery? What about Jews being exterminated in Germany? What about segregation and Jim Crow laws? All were legal.

It appears Kamala Harris thinks fighting for just laws should disqualify a candidate for a public position.
 
She’ll likely be Biden’s Dzerzhinsky if he’s elected. The left has tortured the public for months now with their ANTIFA and BLM offshoots and violence. The Dem governors and mayors resist help from Trump and facilitate the seeming anarchists, but they and those organizations will obey Harris, to the gratitude of the gullible who don’t realize they’re all the same bunch. It’s not a new movie.
 
I doubt Pence deters anyone. Evangelicals likely love Pence, and he is a known quantity after 3.5 years. Harris is the new VP nominee, and needs to excite people who otherwise don’t like either candidate much.
 
There is probably a 10% chance the VP is replaced at any given election. Not really damning odds. How would you have any idea whether Pence is being set up as a fall guy? That seems like quite a leap.
 
Dr_Meinheimer said:
I doubt Pence deters anyone. Evangelicals likely love Pence, and he is a known quantity after 3.5 years. Harris is the new VP nominee, and needs to excite people who otherwise don’t like either candidate much.
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Yeah, that’s probably true. If one isn’t turned off by Trump, Pence isn’t going to do it.
 
Anonkun said:
Actually I’ve seen quite a few more Trump signs than I would have expected. If you’re familiar with the San Marino area, I’ve seen some pretty obvious Trump supporters in the neighborhood, and that’s pretty much bordering LA.
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In my area, there are many Biden signs, very few Trump. Most Trump supporters are putting out American flags.
 
As you perhaps know, the DNC helps finance dissident “Catholic” organizations whose function is to persuade Catholics to defy Church teaching. Obama tried to force the Little Sisters of the Poor to obey his views of abortion rather than their religious precepts. The Dem party is more anti-Catholic than the KKK ever imagined being, because it has more power than the KKK ever had and is more dangerous to Catholicism than the Klan.

If Biden/Harris is elected, the Dems will use all the powers of government again to suppress other parties and to suppress religious opposition to their pagan agenda. I don’t think they’ll ever give up power, or have to.
 
27lw said:
How can a Catholic support this religious bigot?
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  1. She’s not a bigot
  2. Her questions were not anti-Catholic
  3. The point of the questioning was if the nominee would follow precedent
Don’t play the ‘anti-Catholic’ card so easily. This is how the nominee responded:

“But as Buescher explained to Sen. Hirono, fears that membership in such organizations compromise the independence of a potential judge bely the reality that the Knights of Columbus simply “does not have the authority to take personal political positions on behalf of all of its approximately two million members.” He assured the senators that, if confirmed, his decision-making would be shaped by the Code of Conduct for United States Judges and by his oath of office, not by any “policies or positions” taken by the Knights of Columbus.”

He sure doesn’t sound offended.
Ridgerunner said:
If Biden/Harris is elected, the Dems will use all the powers of government again to suppress other parties and to suppress religious opposition to their pagan agenda.
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Pagan? Next will Democrats throw women into the Grand Canyon in their rituals?

I think you exaggerate. There needs to be respect for others with differing political views.
 
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