Bishop orders priests to read anti-Obama letter at Sunday sermons

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Of course I don’t see the name, “Romney.” But it sure looks like he is saying that Catholics should vote for Romney. 😉
I received a handout at Sunday’s Mass illustrating each candidate’s position on several issues of Church interest. A blind man could read between the lines to see that Mitt Romney is the candidate of choice. I like it. 🙂
 
  • “I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.” Naval Marshal General Isoroku Yamamoto (following his forces’ attack on Pearl Harbor, 1941).*
“Probe with a bayonet. If you meet steel, withdraw. If you meet flesh, push.” – (an English translation of V.I. Lenin’s dictum for conducting a class war).

How do these two well known quotes from America’s enemies apply to this thread?

The Obama Administration’s over the top HHS mandates that require even Catholic Institutions like schools and hospitals to violate the teachings of the Church – in some cases unto mortal sin for the collaborators – could be seen (nicely put) as a trial balloon or (not so nicely) as “probing with a bayonet” to see what the Church is made of.

As Bishop after Bishop begins to assert the power of his office to oppose the assault on Catholic entities (peacefully but firmly counselling their flock to vote against those who champion the HHS violation of the First Amendment rights of the Church); a “sleeping giant” may tip the national elections in small or BIG ways.

True, the more vocal Bishops have been from the smaller Dioceses (Peoria, Rockford and Springfield, Illinois, Green Bay, Wisconsin; North Dakota) so far … but even this slightly spun headline with the term “Anti-Obama” snugly fitting into the headline’s limitations with a bit of controversial “juice” in place of factual accuracy … might tend to have long term consequences for the political enemies of the Church.

Another bottom line sweep of an election like 2010’s that returned power of the congress to the Republicans when it seemed statistically impossible given the 2008 election’s results – and a wholesale reorganization of the Democratic Party might have to occur.

Parties out of power tend to do that. Where did we go wrong might obviously point directly to the unprovoked attack on the Catholic Church, when in 2008 it had been reported that Obama garnered a supposed 59% of the lay Catholic vote.

A substantial loss in that big demographic is part of what is turning former Obama blue states to red (Indiana, North Carolina, Colorado, Virginia) and has the formerly solid “rust belt” states of Pennsylvania and Michigan coming into play.

270towin.com/ < This latest electoral college map has Romney over the top
with 273 EC votes in a “no-tossups” scenario (for the first time). It gives Nevada and Colorado to Romney (plausible, especially considering each state flanks Romney powerhouse state Utah) – as well as Florida and Virginia.

Iowa is also listed as a Romney state (plausible too since he’d spent so much time there and split the Iowa caucus votes with Rich Santorum … and for a while was declared the winner). For similar reasons Romney winning New Hampshire (where he has a summer home) is not confounding.

Obama was given close call wins in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota on the map … and was close enough to win if he could retain all these and peel away Nevada or Iowa … and even just adding New Hampshire to the total here would force a 269-269 electoral college tie.

An Obama loss … even by a little will have the party seriously question their attack on the Catholic Church. A win … even by a little, and the war didn’t matter so much and the
probing can become more serious. In my opinion.
 
I actually thought Cory Booker was a much better candidate than Obama years ago. Have you ever heard him speak? Brilliant man, excellent politician. As a GOP guy, he concerns me with respect to future races. Knows how to speak bipartisan language fluently and could very well appeal to independents. He has a credible presentation. I hope somebody offers him a great job making a million bucks per year plus, just so long as they keep him out of presidential politics. I actually like the guy personally, but not politically.
I think he was, like 30, four years ago! He would have been carded at political events. 🙂

I like how he has been working on education in Newark. I am an advocate of organized labor but, at times, this seems to have gotten i the way of providing for the kids.

In buffalo city public schools, all teachers have a plastic surgery rider on their health insurance!! I think I could figure out something to “have done” if I could have it for free! Maybe a tummy tuck or an ear lobe shaping. . . . .

Needless to say- it’s a bit of joke around here. THere is one teacher who looks like Michael Jackson.

Buffalo public schools are, sadly among the worst in the Northeast. Pathetic.
 
Of course I don’t see the name, “Romney.” But it sure looks like he is saying that Catholics should vote for Romney. 😉
I would think the most one could derive from that message was a caution to not vote for Obama, not that one should vote for Romney.
 
Another bottom line sweep of an election like 2010’s that returned power of the congress to the Republicans when it seemed statistically impossible given the 2008 election’s results – and a wholesale reorganization of the Democratic Party might have to occur.

Barring a complete miracle, Romney is going to lose this election’s electoral college. I am a scientist and have done statistics and modeling my entire career. I am a math geek and watch the polls intently and follow the best modeling and modelers out there. Romney really has no path to 270. He has NEVER polled ahead of Obama in Nevada. He won’t win it. He has also polled behind Obama in Ohio and Iowa about 90% of the time. He is not winning either.

Rasmussen polls (which tend to be most of Romney’s favorable polls) are notorious for over sampling older people, who tend to vote GOP. This is because Rass uses robocalling and calls only hard line phones (no cell-phone only phones). He also does a fair amount of polling Friday and Saturday evenings – again, when young democratic leaning folks tend to be out. These work good during midterm elections (where Rass tends to poll really accurately), when younger and less motivated people stay home, but he tends to do poorly in Presidential elections. Gallup’s polls have gone the way of John Zogby, and I no longer consider them a reputable organization.

Look to Quinnipiac U. for the most consistently accurate polling (as noted by Reuters, Washington Post, and others) over time.
 
I would think the most one could derive from that message was a caution to not vote for Obama, not that one should vote for Romney.
Exactly. Now, obviously, someone can conclude that Romney is the best choice based on such instruction, but that isn’t the same as the priest saying that one should vote for him. 👍
 
Exactly. Now, obviously, someone can conclude that Romney is the best choice based on such instruction, but that isn’t the same as the priest saying that one should vote for him. 👍
And this is why the Church does not endorse one party or canidate. They merely give us the principles to consider.
 
And this is why the Church does not endorse one party or canidate. They merely give us the principles to consider.
I am glad the bishop spoke out, but not for the reason most here are. My opinion is that abortion will be the law of the land regardless of who is elected for generations, barring a dramatic revolution. As a military revolution could simply not succeed in this climate, I think the only thing that will save us is a revolution of morality, call it a culture revolution or a revival. I think what will happen is in voting to support abortion, or showing a profound indifference, the souls of many will be placed in danger of Hell. This is a direct concern of the bishop under whose pastoral care those souls live. It is his duty to teach his flock how to avoid entanglement with this particular sin and that is what he has done.
 
Barring a complete miracle, Romney is going to lose this election’s electoral college. I am a scientist and have done statistics and modeling my entire career. I am a math geek and watch the polls intently and follow the best modeling and modelers out there. Romney really has no path to 270. He has NEVER polled ahead of Obama in Nevada. He won’t win it. He has also polled behind Obama in Ohio and Iowa about 90% of the time. He is not winning either.
I have been praying for months (and I will continue to pray on my hands and knees) that you are wrong. I believe that you are.
 
I received a handout at Sunday’s Mass illustrating each candidate’s position on several issues of Church interest. A blind man could read between the lines to see that Mitt Romney is the candidate of choice. I like it. 🙂
Indeed.
 
I am glad the bishop spoke out, but not for the reason most here are. My opinion is that abortion will be the law of the land regardless of who is elected for generations, barring a dramatic revolution. As a military revolution could simply not succeed in this climate, I think the only thing that will save us is a revolution of morality, call it a culture revolution or a revival. I think what will happen is in voting to support abortion, or showing a profound indifference, the souls of many will be placed in danger of Hell. This is a direct concern of the bishop under whose pastoral care those souls live. It is his duty to teach his flock how to avoid entanglement with this particular sin and that is what he has done.
I agree that the future looks bleak.

Abortion may be the law of the land, but maybe it can be severely limited.
 
My question is not partisan based, but, the abortion issue, rhetorically speaking…
Does it really matter which party gets into
the Whitehouse? We had 8 years of Republican Administration and more Republican
Leadership in the house. What frustrates me is
Making such important topics a “political football”.
It seems if any party really cared… Roe V. Wade would have been
overturned by now.
 
U.S. Bishops Campaigning For Romney Accused Of Abusing Tax-Exempt Status
Amid reports that some Roman Catholic clergy have been campaigning for Mitt Romney at the pulpit, the good-government non-profit Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington filed a complaint against the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops on Friday, challenging its its tax-exempt status
No complaints against pastors stumping for Obama in Churches

Catholic Bishops can not even reitrerate Church teaching on voting with out a complaint such as this. The Bishops said you should not vote for somebody who supports abortion or gay marriage, they did not campaign for Mitt Romney. No Church has lost tax exempt status for supporting or opposing political candidate
 
This is a typical persecution on the Catholic Church, double standard, ridiculous and outrageous. All Catholics should support USCCB and scream loud!!!
 
Wouldn’t it be better to have been positive? Rather than have the parish priests read an anti-Obama letter, it would be better IMO to have them read a pro-Romney letter.
Well it’s hard to be pro or anti Romney–he’s too inconsistent in his beliefs. We know Obama and we know his ideas are not good.
 
U.S. Bishops Campaigning For Romney Accused Of Abusing Tax-Exempt Status

No complaints against pastors stumping for Obama in Churches

Catholic Bishops can not even reitrerate Church teaching on voting with out a complaint such as this. The Bishops said you should not vote for somebody who supports abortion or gay marriage, they did not campaign for Mitt Romney. No Church has lost tax exempt status for supporting or opposing political candidate
Classic. The fact that any Catholic can still support Obama…is mind boggling! Has everyone seen the movie, “For Greater Glory?”
 
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