BNP movement...has anyone have any information on them

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I believe I am far from being accused of being prejudice. Prejudice is judging from the outside. I was an insider. I used to be BNP. I have witnessed all of this.

Yes, there is something Spiritually special about the congregation. I don’t deny that. You yourself are so touched to the point of spreading the BNP thing to others. Sure.

My only issue was the Mockery, that was all. Faith is such a fragile thing to some people. And if you build something prominent upon a foundation that has vulnerability in the smallest scale, in this case God’s favorite song (as I refer to my other post) or a lady dressed up like the Black Nazarene walking around with big cross speaking in deep female voice with a huge Filipino accent to boot, portraying herself as Holy Spirit Incarnate, or frankly Jesus, the faith is as stable as a house of cards.

It will shatter.

I would compare the money collecting process as a solicitation as shady as, let’s say, an AmWay consultant luring you into buying stuff forever from them. Or perhaps young teens visiting your homes selling their “final sale” that will bring them to a vacation glory of some sort. BNP uses partly guilt (contribute for this retreat the way others contributed for you or else), partly coersion of the family sense (your family sucks for not giving money), and frankly bullying (you better contribute or else you’re not going to the next event).

You are able to speak as though everything is hunky dory because you are aware that there are people who are not part of BNP yet and are reading this. You are luring them into false curiosity (the way the Devil does in most cases) through vague explanations, brusing off of questionable facts, playign devli’s advocate, and YOU JUDGING ME (quite a hypocrite you are, if you will).

For anyone who stumbled upon this, BNP worships a god who TOLD THEM THAT hE HAS A FAVORITE CHRISTMAS SONG. So there, that’s your foundation. A god speaks to them through a lady who dresses up as Jesus from time to time carrying a cross and speaking in a deep female voice with a thick Filipino accent. If you can’t trust them with these, how can you trust them with anything else?

They are a mockery of OUR Faith.
 
:clapping: :tiphat: Wow.

Well, my brother, tonight’s rosary and novena to the Sacred Heart will be for you.

You can see my answer to your hostility on the other post you keep chasing me down on.

Peace be with you.
 
Everyone, don’t forget, Silent Night is the holy song. Don’t forget that kids. Print it out and post it on your cubicles because that’s the hand picked song by a god called MNI.

hahaha…favorite song my buttocks.
 
Cathecism_2008 said:
Everyone, don’t forget, Silent Night is the holy song. Don’t forget that kids. Print it out and post it on your cubicles because that’s the hand picked song by a god called MNI.

hahaha…favorite song my buttocks.
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You are an obvious fake. You even got the song wrong
.There is a favorite Christmas carol that the BNP sings ,its not that one.
Since you cannot even get that simple song right , that tells me you are an outsider using secondhand information in an attempt to discredit the BNP

If you think that we are violating any state or federal laws for
non-profits,Please post any evidence here.

PLease refrain from using any references to body parts, its juvenile and unnecessary.

I’ve reviewed your other posts on other threads and the information you post has so many obvious errors that I ignored it.

Before adding any more lies , please review the 8th commandment, I believe it says something about bearing false witness.

May God Bless Us All
 
You cult folks are hopeless. Enough said. Close this thread.🤷
 
Cathecism_2008 said:
You cult folks are hopeless. Enough said. Close this thread.🤷
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Please review your Church history , Christianity began as a cult , a cult of devotion to a new God of the Christians .The Church leaders and its believers were persecuted and killed for believing in Jesus. It wasn’t until around 300 AD when Constantine accepted and was baptized in this cult that it became the popular Church that it is today. So do not belittle Christian cults they have a tendency of growing and multiplying. That is if they have the blessing and the graces of GOD.
 
Hi Everyone,

Sort of an old thread. Anyways. I am an active member in the BNP. When you are there, you are certainly surrounded by people who openly show they need/want God in their lives. I’ve always been around it since I was younger. I only think that Ate Salve is special because she has united so many people in the name of God. The other things like shrinking, deepthroat… I have never witnessed on my own and don’t think I ever will. I also went to Holy week a few years back and did not see anything special about Ate being dressed up like that.
IMHO, there are problems within the BNP. Mostly it’s people like J and Believer who are so condescending and stubborn. I bet they are officers for their respective chapters. Another problem is that the officers, council and staff members get all big headed. They think they have authority over people who are not officers themselves. I’ve always been more on the free spirit side, but have my own persoal relationship with God, that nobody can judge is true or false. My heart knows good and bad, and I know the good inside me is my connection to God.
Well, that’s the biggest problem. But with that, it creates other problems. Officers and the like are only human and they pass judgement. And these same people are asked to lead in their respective metropolitan areas. So the people who totally buy into the BNP way, and attend every function are given more recognition. And only the people who buy into it more are given the title of officer or beyond. But it’s a safe place to be, full of people with good intent. Some let their power and/or position get the better of them.

-YBIC
 
Well, each has his/her own experience, that is for sure. Not sure where the condescending thing comes from though, that is an interesting remark, but I will tell you I am not an officer, not even close and my comments simply come from what I personally have experienced. Not just me alone, but my family as well and others in the extended family who aren’t part of BNP who have had some pretty extraordinary experiences. But aside from experiencing God on a very personal level, it is true that the best accomplishment of all is the fact that Ate Salve has united thousands of people under God and helped to change the lives of many people who otherwise might be headed in the wrong direction. I don’t think I’m condescending, certainly neither is Believer. From what I see he’s just been supplying very valuable information that sheds light on the truth about our group that others simply don’t want to accept for one reason or another. It’s just disheartening to see people write in this blog passing judgement on a group they have very little understanding about, speak on rumor, have likely never been to a class - which is open to ANYONE. But look, the bottom line is if you are a believer in God and live your life as a Christian by the Commandments then just keep doing what you’re doing and it shouldn’t matter who or what group you belong to - if any. A word of advice to anyone who reads this blog though is do not criticize that which you do not understand - this group or anything in life. A fool who keeps his mouth shut is perceptive.
 
…but I will tell you I am not an officer, not even close and my comments simply come from what I personally have experienced. Not just me alone, but my family as well and others in the extended family who aren’t part of BNP who have had some pretty extraordinary experiences.
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Have mercy on the man who feels a disconnect with his kids. You know kids start to use BNP as an excuse to go out. He’s probably heard it too many times. He misses them. You say your family extended is involved with BNP, but he hears BNP as an excuse to leave the house and be with others he doesn’t know.
Not sure where the condescending thing comes from though, that is an interesting remark…
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It is interesting. A humble person would at least consider that they come off to others in that way. Yet you brush it off in arrogance.
But aside from experiencing God on a very personal level, it is true that the best accomplishment of all is the fact that Ate Salve has united thousands of people under God…
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You don’t need the BNP to discover God on a personal level. But, Ate Salve uniting thousands in the name of God may be the only thing we would agree on.
I don’t think I’m condescending, certainly neither is Believer…
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Think harder, you like to boost your own ego because you have a facade of being enlightened… And also, I’m waiting for the other guy to come post so they can team up on me with the buddy system.
From what I see he’s just been supplying very valuable information that sheds light on the truth about our group that others simply don’t want to accept for one reason or another…
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Buddy system.
It’s just disheartening to see people write in this blog passing judgement on a group they have very little understanding about, speak on rumor, have likely never been to a class - which is open to ANYONE.
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You should have a stronger heart for what you believe in. Don’t waiver because someone else has questions or even accusations. I am very firm… the Lord is my strength.
But look, the bottom line is if you are a believer in God and live your life as a Christian by the Commandments then just keep doing what you’re doing and it shouldn’t matter who or what group you belong to - if any.
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I agree! You don’t need the BNP to find the Good Lord or be in his grace.
A word of advice to anyone who reads this blog though is do not criticize that which you do not understand - this group or anything in life. A fool who keeps his mouth shut is perceptive.
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A perceptive fool!? You wish people would sit back and not raise questions. Disgusting…

So, yeah, this is what’s wrong with the BNP. People who are condescending, and preach things they don’t yet understand themselves - big headed. Some speak of being humble, but can not humble themselves. Some preach humility but only expect it of others. The whole BNP isn’t like this, but unfortuneately the stubborn, tunnel visioned ones will likely climb ranks because they conform. As you can see this person and people like him are what’s wrong with the organization. Good odds to bet he is formerly an officer if not one presently. Me? I’m glad to be an outspoken member with no desire to be an officer. I question and challenge whatever I feel. I get to meet kind people and not have to deal with the beauracratic mess. I don’t take orders from anyone, and am glad that I have time to pray.
 
Ok well I don’t know if you’ve disconnected from your kids or anything like that, I certainly hope not, but mine are too young to go out on their own and we live too far away from the closest chapter for them to use BNP as an excuse anyway. I’m afraid you don’t know me as well as you think you do.

Not sure how you arrive at me being condescending, I don’t mean to come off as arrogant, I just don’t get angry at such prejudicial and mildly insulting remarks. Is that arrogant? Or condescending? And how do you know me well enough to apparently know this???

Of course you don’t need BNP to experience God, but at a point in my life when I needed God and never had Him in my life before, I happened to experience Him through this way. I’m sure there are thousands of wonderful ways to experience God without them.

Uh, since when have I ever had an ego? If you knew me, which you obviously do not, you would know I really don’t have much of an ego at all. But I also don’t have to justify myself to any stranger either.

Buddy system…are you feeling attacked? Please don’t…not good for the ego.

Uh, did I waiver??

Obviously you don’t understand the last line…Oh well. Oops am I being arrogant again?

Not an officer, or former officer, likely not a future officer. Happy where I’m at thank you very much. .

May the peace and love of our Lord be with you brother…
 
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Not sure how you arrive at me being condescending, I don’t mean to come off as arrogant…

Of course you don’t need BNP to experience God…

Uh, since when have I ever had an ego? If you knew me, which you obviously do not, you would know I really don’t have much of an ego at all. But I also don’t have to justify myself to any stranger either.

Buddy system…are you feeling attacked? Please don’t…not good for the ego.

Uh, did I waiver??

Obviously you don’t understand the last line…Oh well. Oops am I being arrogant again?

May the peace and love of our Lord be with you brother…
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Yes, I do not know you.
Yes, you are arrogant.
Yes, you are condescending.
Yes, we all have an ego.
Yes, you must justify yourself to strangers.
Yes, you are waivering.
 
My friend, if you are active in BNP as you say you are, what on earth drives you to such hostility toward a stranger who has done nothing to you? Do you think our Lord would approve of such behavior?

For a guy who doesn’t know me, you sure are judgemental. I’ll invite you to describe how I am arrogant, condescending, egotistical, waivering, and exactly how and why I must for some odd reason justify anything to a total stranger…???

Though I’m guessing there are more needless hostilities to come, let me just say:

Peace be with you…👍
 
You use the word friend loosely.
I am not your friend.
Hostility?
You are exagerating!!
FYI, this is arrogant and condescending:
Do you think our Lord would approve of such behavior?
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You keep trying to get the last word, that’s why it is very true you must justify yourself to strangers…

You are trying very hard to make yourself seem like a victim of some sort of, hostility!?

You are making me laugh…
It’s sad such a *smart * 🤷 person like you is blind to his own flaws, and can’t admit to any of it.

Just because you can articulate yourself in a manner which makes you seemed enlightened, doesn’t make you so…

IMHO, you are one of the people that makes BNP suck.
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Mr “space”, let me say, I call you my friend until you make yourself an enemy. Been many years since anyone’s done that, and I don’t think you’re an enemy, and as you continue to throw stones I’ll keep throwing bread. Trying to keep the last word? Nah, that’s not like me, but then you wouldn’t know that because you don’t know me as a person. (do I have to keep reiterating this?) Perhaps my personal downfall is my pride. When personally attacked like this with baseless accusations I tend to want to accept the challenge. Perhaps I shouldn’t, you obviously have a one-track mind and predeterminations about myself and BNP that you will have a certain opinion of me no matter what. It’s mere prejudice, and yes, frankly, I am above that.
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You still really haven’t answered my question: exactly how am I condescending, waivering, etc…you remember. How do you know this having never met me?
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And to let you know, I don’t sit here and write this with anger and discontent on the mind. In case you feel attacked or something, or insulted, I’ll have you know I sit here in complete confusion really! Baffled at how anyone in this day and age can make hostile accusations having never walked a mile in my shoes!
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If BNP sucks so much, why are you involved??
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Tell me, where are you located? If you’re in northern CA, someday I’d love to meet over a cup of coffee and see if we can really get to know each other and come to an understanding. I know this is a mere forum and I could easily brush you off and ignore you, but it just bothers me that someone like you could be so hostile (or at least sounding) to someone like me, who you do not know.
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I hope you will find peace and an end to hostility. Perhaps you do not consider me a friend, that is ok. You’re still my brother in Christ and I will continue to love you and all as HE loves us, as is His commandment. Peace be with you.
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What a stubborn person… Don’t PM me… You’ll never get it, because I have clearly given you examples, quoting you, on what I see as your shortcomings…
 
Wow…

🤷 :ehh: :bluelite:

no substance - so resort to anger.

:slapfight:

Peace my brother… :aok:

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