Board Games for Catholics to Avoid

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Le_Crouton said:
to the naked bits
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This comment shows desensitization towards sexuality, as you used a crude comment to describe our sexuality which is an image of our faith.

You can’t make an argument that someone has an unhealthy view of sexuality (by not looking at nude art) when you use the term naked bits
 
Feel like this whole convo you are trying to say that I’m in the wrong or have an unhealthy worldview by avoiding nude images, board games with demonic themes, or obscene music/movies by reframing the debate to focus on nude art. How is avoiding any of those things wrong?

One can easily avoid all of that, have a healthy perspective, and still have time to live a little.
 
One doesn’t need to look at nude art in order to understand that the human body is a good, healthy, beautiful, and made in the image of God.

The argument is there is nothing objectively wrong with a nude painting if it doesn’t incite lust. The question isn’t what is the negative but rather what is the positive? A little ignorance and a little mystery is never a bad thing. Not looking at nude art isn’t somehow a scandalous act. As long as you understand why you are or aren’t looking at it, that is what matters
 
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Matt Fradd has a very valuable approach to this. He makes it clear that nude art can be separate from pornography, that being paintings and potentially art models. But with these, comes more responsibility on the viewer not to lust. JPII makes this argument also. We can appreciate the human body in this manner but there is more responsibility the viewer must take to protect the dignity of the person depicted.

Matt Fradd does think that nude photos can’t be considered to have this alternate value separate from porn. That is the line he draws. Thank you @DeniseNY for bringing up Matt Fradd!
 
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I would really like to reframe the topic back to board games with demonic themes, if at all possible.

Side note: I also agree with Fradd and the posts above. Never once did I say that that looking at nude art was sinful nor that playing a board game with demonic themes was sinful (just not prudent). And I personally avoid looking at nude art for protecting my love for my wife and our marriage.
 
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Driven777 said:
playing a board game with demonic themes was sinful (just not prudent)
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Yes I think this is what is critical here. I mean Ouija is sinful, can be a mortal sin. That is a firm no, as is anything occult related, pentagrams and such. But to say that some fantasy game where you murder someone is morally sinful is wrong, nobody actually died. But, by playing this game you might desensitize yourself to real-life violence and then that would be wrong.

So it’s more a judgement of prudence. Do you play the violent game for the plot or the interest or the excitement or because you want to express your violence into this medium? You know what I mean?
 
I wonder how many people watch tv shows or movies with violence on netflix or such that have stuff like shootings in them and such.
 
And what is your point? I said it’s up to our prudential judgment. Are you saying it shouldn’t be judgement and we should just watch whatever we want because that’s what everyone else does? What are you getting at?
 
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Driven777 said:
I couldn’t have said it better. Thank you for the comment.
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But I think Matthews qualification that something “could” be sinful is important. It’s all about the individual being mature enough to know their own weaknesses. For someone who knows that controlling their anger is a particular issue, maybe they need to avoid violent media. For someone else, maybe it’s no big deal. It’s not about having bright line rules for all Catholics everywhere. It’s about individuals making prudential judgments for themselves.
 
I wonder if the people who hate games probably watch movies/tv shows with violence in them
 
Who goes to the Sistine Chapel and averts his eyes? People actually do this? They avert their eyes in one of the most sacred places in Catholicism?

I roll for disbelief.
 
I probably would if ever I got there,I would look at the general form and face but avert eyes from parts we normally cover out of respect and decency .
 
I want to validate what you just said because its seems clear cut that someone who watches a TV show, like Game of Thrones, which has extensive nudity and fantasy themes, could be thrown into a near occasion of sin; while others would not be tempted to lust or violence at all. However, I think as Catholics, there are certain things that we should honestly avoid (and this is a personal choice and never a hard fast rule) in general because the amount of evil present in a particular narrative outweighs the artistic merit it gives us.

I might be ‘spiritually mature’ enough to watch Game of Thrones or to play an board game full of demons but at what point do you draw the line and sacrifice storyline to avoid desensitization?
 
You started a thread with a stilted question that you wanted to use to rally people to hate on games, and claimed that games you’re not comfortable with are occult. Fake news!
 
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