Book of Enoch

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I have heard the same. There is reason it is not in the Canon, but interesting that it is quoted in canonical scripture. Giants hundreds of feet tall, more information on the nephalim (of which Goliath and his brothers were), Demons being the source of women’s make-up, jewelry; the source of astrology and metallurgy for use of weapons.
 
This whole thread is mind blowing… I took quite a lot of my time and effert to produce these CATHOLIC links about the Book of Enoch. EWTN (A great link) The Vatican quoted " The Word of God was the source of Ethiopic Literature. The Bible was translated into Ethiopic between the 4th and the 6th century AD. 2) Some books are preserved in their entirety only in Classical Ethiopic and parts of the Ethiopian Biblical Canon are precious for biblical scholarship; The Book of Enoch and the Book of Jubilees are important works for understanding the context of Second Temple Judaism, Qumran and the origins of Christianity. They are also significant for the study of apocalyptic literature. 3) The Ethiopian Bible society is doing a lot for the translation of the Bible in local and regional languages (inc1uding cassettes, CDs, a device called “Proclaimer” which works even with solar energy); The Board Members of the Bible Society are 24: 8 from the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church, 8 from the Catholic Church and 8 from the Evangelical Church. This is a good example for Ecumenical cooperation. The President of the Board, at the moment, is Catholic." The Ethiopian Catholic Church quoted " The Ethiopian Catholic Church is especially close to the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, whose doctrine and liturgical tradition she shares. While separated by their understanding of the primacy of the Bishop of Rome, the Ethiopian Catholic and Orthodox Churches have basically the same sacraments, the same prayers, the same devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary and the angels and the saints, the same traditions: the same faith. For this reason, the Ethiopian Catholic Church does not proselytize Ethiopian Orthodox Christians, but strives for brotherly cooperation. Indeed, Ethiopian Catholics pray and work in hope for the day that the Ethiopian Catholic and Orthodox Churches will unite in full communion." Catholic Education quoted " For example, unlike a good Latin parish, in a traditional Eastern Catholic parish you won’t find musical instruments, statues, rosaries, or stations of the cross. Indeed, the priest may well have a wife and children, and the church might be without pews or kneelers. In some circumstances, even the Bible might have a larger canon and include Third and Fourth Maccabees. Unity does not mean uniformity." #################################################That being said. I can’t help but to add this since sadly this seams to be what the true topic of this thread became. " When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Behold your mother!” And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home." That’s not a “brother” of bloodline. That’s a brother in faith. There is such a thing (brothers in faith), and yes, Jesus had and still has them.
 
Anyone can read the Book of Enoch online and decided for themselves; however if any one happens not to like reading, you can then buy the audio book version.
Either way, there’s no excuse not to be informed in order to make ourselves the decisions of what to believe, rather than having others tells us what to believe.
thebookofenoch.weebly.com/
 
I have not read the entire book of Enoch, but plan on it soon, I have read some it though and it is clearly meant for our generation or one in the near future. This being so, I think the book of Enoch is probably much more important than most people think. It really should be talked about more in mass, especially since we are living in the times it was written for.
 
DMG888 said:
**Who said the Catholic Church is Christian?
According to the bible, the Catholic Church is pagan in its teachings as well as in its doctrine. All the Catholic Church did was renamed their pagan idols into Christian characterizations in order to appear Christian; something that God forbade to begin with, the making of icons & idols, & the praying to them & bowing to them.

Who persecuted the apostles & killed them if it wasn’t the Romans?
Once they understood that the more they killed the more they multiplied, they decided in a different strategy. The strategy was, a false conversion in which would be used to lie to Christians & get them to sin against God. Those who understood this & refuse to bow to the Catholic Church, were labeled “witches” & were killed under the inquisition.

The same will happen again, with true believers who will refused to bow to this new age reformation of all false churches united. The true Christians will be labeled as “terrorists” & will be killed in accordance to the book of Revelation.**
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DMG888,

I think a better understanding of Prophecy would help when understanding RCC…

Dan 7

16 I went near to one of them that stood by, and asked the truth of him concerning all these things, and he told me the interpretation of the words, and instructed me: [17] These four great beasts are four kingdoms, which shall arise out of the earth. [18] But the saints of the most high God shall take the kingdom: and they shall possess the kingdom for ever and ever. [19] After this I would diligently learn concerning the fourth beast, which was very different from all, and exceeding terrible: his teeth and claws were of iron: he devoured and broke in pieces, and the rest he stamped upon with his feet…

The Saints would receive the Kingdom of Rome, the fourth beast. That is why Daniel thinks to diligently to Learn about the fourth Beast. Rome would become the possession of the saints forever… It would become a formidable obstacle for a time against Satan.
Concerning Comments made about Romans persecuting Christians…

Actually Christ told Pilot that he that delivered him unto him was of the greater sin. That would be those of the Jewish leaders… Not Rome… Too Rome wasn’t actively seeking to persecute Christians, although it did happen at times when both Jewish leaders and Roman leaders got together to squash the Church in scripture. And too in some instances of Rome persecuting Christians was not as some make it out to be… Matter of fact Christ said that no greater faith was found in all Israel but that of a Roman Military officer. Matthew 8 beginning at verse 5… He wasn’t even Jewish or Israelite and didn’t have Scripture to study. Gentile converts became Christians for reasons that had nothing to do with reading a bible or the things written in it.

I would like to know where in Revelation it talks about Christians being terrorist? I’m thinking you’re referencing the tribulation. Which is God judging the world… If your suffering some what you might what to check on that a little.

Timing is important in understanding Bible prophecy… I think you might be confused about some things…

Also

Matt 23 :9 Is as much about how the Jews in high places were using Abraham as their Father and justifying their status in the Israelite Community. Like also they told Christ how Abraham was their Father… He (Christ) doesn’t deny it… Their natural connection to Abraham didn’t justify their claims though, spiritually speaking. Abraham wasn’t their Father spiritually…

The Pope Represents what we say we Believe Spiritually. He is our official spokesperson in the RCC. He is spiritually speaking to us at times… In a way what Abraham was to the True Israelite. My righteousness in faith isn’t determined by natural ancestry to a natural Father of natural lineage.

How would you feel as one that was Proselyte in Jewish conversion in those times or now even today? If you heard someone say that Abraham was their Father and in meaning that of a natural ancestry? That they somehow are on a plane that you could never achieve because you weren’t his natural descendant. As Catholics we have no such limits by calling the bishop of Rome our Pope and a Father. He speaks to us and for us in things pertaining to our faith.

And Yes the Book of Enouch I found is a wonderful read and study, when its placed in the proper context and perspective.
 
This thread made me finally join so that I could comment. It is so troubling to see individuals come into a Catholic forum just to attack Catholics because of their supposed expert beliefs. DMG made it perfectly clear about his/her beliefs in the King James Version of the bible being the only true word of God. This is a bible of schism and has been edited down to remove the books that pointed to the true beliefs of the Universal Church that Jesus left in Peter’s hands (not to mention it was a complete rip off of the Douay-Rheims translation). Ironically enough this thread was started about the book of Enoch. How could DMG believe in the book of Enoch if it is not even in the KJV? Further it saddens me to no end to suggest that our most pure and ever virgin Mother had children. How quickly it seems that non Catholic Christians have conveniently forgotten that even their hero of schism, Martin Luther, very much loved Our Lady and wrote about her perpetual virginity. I pray for our brothers and sisters in Christ every day who miss out on the greatest gift Christ has left for us to share in communion with him through the Eucharist. I am praying for you DMG. You are getting many Hail Mary’s in your future though I am quite sure that the thought of that will disgust you. Nonetheless you will still get them from me!

Hail Mary, so pure conceived without sin! Pray for us who have recourse to thee!
 
People keep mentioning how the King James Version got rid of deuterocanonical/ apocrypha, when if I remember right, it originally had those books included.
 
The Book of Enoch is not a canonical book, does not belong in the Bible, yet
we do have the Apostles clearly citing portions from it, as you read in the ref-
erences, so why is this? The Jews did have Extra-Scriptural Oral Traditions,
which is valid, and SOME of it CREPT INTO the fictional Book of Enoch.

The Apostles supposedly also quote or allude to sections of the Assumption
of Moses and the Ascension of Isaiah, parts which were valid Oral Traditions,
but the texts as a whole were not truly Scripture.

THAT is what I believe anyway, the Oral Tradition parts, but the fact is that
the Book of Enoch is just a non-canonical book, not part of Holy Scripture.
 
DMG888 said:
Anyone can read the Book of Enoch online and decided for themselves; however if any one happens not to like reading, you can then buy the audio book version.
Either way, there’s no excuse not to be informed in order to make ourselves the decisions of what to believe, rather than having others tells us what to believe.
thebookofenoch.weebly.com/
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Clicked the Link…
Any particular reason why I see Gandalf and a Nazgûl? 😃
 
mikekle said:
I have not read the entire book of Enoch, but plan on it soon, I have read some it though and it is clearly meant for our generation or one in the near future. This being so, I think the book of Enoch is probably much more important than most people think. It really should be talked about more in mass, especially since we are living in the times it was written for.
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BAD BAD BAD!
It is NOT canonical, it is NOT inspired by the Holy Spirit, NOR did the Holy Spirit inspire its place in Canon of Scripture.
 
The book of Enoch is not even an Apocrypha book. It is a Cabalistic and Occult book. The same way that the Key of Solomon has been falsely attributed to King Solomon, so has this book with Enoch.
 
DMG888 said:
James was the son of Mary & Joseph, that makes him half brother of Jesus.

The book of Enoch existed prior to the flood. Like I said, Enoch was Noah’s grandfather & the bible says that Enoch walked with God.

Not only he walked with God, Enoch lived to be 365 years old before God literally took him, having being a righteous man.

Now, having said that, it would be ridiculous to think that a man who the bible calls righteous & who the bible also tells us “walked with God”, would lived 365 years & not write a single thing about God.

Now, let’s not confuse the authentic book of Enoch rediscovered within the dead sea scrolls, with other false mythological Enoch books out there.

What’s so fascinating about the book of Enoch is that it confirms the bible & also lines up with the book of Revelation.

I’m not taking the words of other people, I actually read the book of Enoch as well as the entire bible, so I can vouch for what I’m talking about.
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THE WATCHERS: Fallen angels, Dinosaurs, & UFOs **
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That is herresy. First of Our Lord does not have brothers at all nor even 1. Saint Joseph and Mother Mary never has another son.
In ancient times in Israel the word Brother was also used to cousins.
Why do you think that in the middle east the term Brother is used even for cousins, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and more.
All of those countries they say Brother to cousins. Believe me I know.
We have a saying that goes like this when mother and father are not with you at that moment your uncles becomes your parents.
Same Grandma and grandpa when parents are not present and when even you are with your uncles you parents become your grandparents

As far as the book of Enoch goes it is best to talk to it to a Catholic priest no one else. Even when I watched the video in catholic.com and catholic forums about it. It is innacurate. The books of Enoch are not available to the public. Those who sell the book of Enoch do not have the complete version only certain Catholic / orthodox priests have it as well as certain rabbis but it is not allowed for the public to read without authorization from a your spiritual father.
 
GearXL said:
The book of Enoch is not even an Apocrypha book. It is a Cabalistic and Occult book. The same way that the Key of Solomon has been falsely attributed to King Solomon, so has this book with Enoch.
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No it is not a Canalis tickets nor occult. However there are some members of the occult that took portions of it and used it in an evil way.
Ask a Catholic priest about the book of Enoch. He will explain accurately it’s history(only few priests with the authorization from Rome can read it and rabbis it is not opened to the public for good reason. Your spiritual director can explain it way better than I.

The key of Solomon is not allowed to read it has never been in the bible.
 
Eliazer said:
That is herresy. First of Our Lord does not have brothers at all nor even 1. Saint Joseph and Mother Mary never has another son.
In ancient times in Israel the word Brother was also used to cousins.
Why do you think that in the middle east the term Brother is used even for cousins, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and more.
All of those countries they say Brother to cousins. Believe me I know.
We have a saying that goes like this when mother and father are not with you at that moment your uncles becomes your parents.
Same Grandma and grandpa when parents are not present and when even you are with your uncles you parents become your grandparents

As far as the book of Enoch goes it is best to talk to it to a Catholic priest no one else. Even when I watched the video in catholic.com and catholic forums about it. It is innacurate. The books of Enoch are not available to the public. Those who sell the book of Enoch do not have the complete version only certain Catholic / orthodox priests have it as well as certain rabbis but it is not allowed for the public to read without authorization from a your spiritual father.
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One last note Saint Joseph is only the adoptive father of Our Lord. Because our Lord, who is God, is the son of God.
The Holy trinity is only one God which is a mystery that our human minds cannot ever fully comprehend.

What I am about to say This is a terrible analogy but it is to give a general idea
The car does. Not understand the inventor the inventor understands the car.
The car does what it is supposed to do and knows it’s purpose, not really this is just an analogy, however the car will never fully comprehend the inventor. Just like we will never understand fully God, but we know what is Our purpose
 
DMG888 said:
Either way, there’s no excuse not to be informed in order to make ourselves the decisions of what to believe, rather than having others tells us what to believe. thebookofenoch.weebly.com/
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Why not just read MAD magazine? It’s more historically accurate.

There is a sin called “credulity” - which means accepting something as true or accurate without performing due diligence. Believing rumors, or non-canonical books for example.
 
Tsuzuki said:
Anyone can read it. The whole thing is online for free from lots of places. It’s also available for free on the Android and Apple apps stores. If anyone was trying to control its distribution, they’ve long since failed.

I am reading it right now. It is also online for free, same as the Book of Enoch.
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One must always be careful because there is adulterated/ edited versions out there that do not match the original.
And even if it would believe me only a spiritual father can give permission to read it. This book is not mean for just for anyone nor anybody, it is only for selected few. I am not one of those that can read it since I have not asked my spiritual father and since I am only a lay member.
 
DMG888 said:
Anyone can read the Book of Enoch online and decided for themselves; however if any one happens not to like reading, you can then buy the audio book version.
Either way, there’s no excuse not to be informed in order to make ourselves the decisions of what to believe, rather than having others tells us what to believe.
thebookofenoch.weebly.com/
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No. That is not right. We can read only what is approved.
What has not been approved (such as this book) we cannot read it. Only few father’s and rabbis and Orthodox priests can read it.
This book it is not allowed to read it we as members of the Catholic church should obey our Holy mother who is Spouse of Our Lord.
We have no right to contradict her.
We know what to believe because we have been guided by Our Lord and Holy mother church.

It’s up to you. But I rather listen and obey because I respect Holy mother church since she is the bride of Our Lord.
 
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