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CarolNoel
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Yes. They will find some judge willing to put a hold on it.
BREAKING: Texas Republicans pass abortion law after marathon filibuster
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SMGS127
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To be fair, many media organizations will just use trendy hashtags associated with the issue to reach the greatest number of Twitter users, regardless of issue. If there was a popular pro-life hashtag, it probably would have been included too.
With that said, :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: Texas!
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EmperorNapoleon
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They may have managed to pass the bill, but there are lots of pretty pictures of them confiscating tampons and pads from women wishing to enter the gallery. You couldn’t pay for better symbolism and I think it will come back to bite them in the next election.
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_Abyssinia
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Putting fake blood near their groin and wearing gowns:
twitter.com/KoltenParker/statuses/355878501271875584
Feces confiscated at TX capitol as abortion bill voting takes place
twitter.com/joethepleb/statuses/355882362472628224
Pro-Life Advocate Shoved Hard by Abortion Activist at Texas Capitol
Abortion Activists Boo Texas Pro-Lifers Singing “God Bless America”
Mom Makes Kids Hold Signs at Texas Rally for Late-Term Abortions
Abortion Activists Yell “Hail Satan” as Texas Pro-Lifers Sing Amazing Grace
Chaining to rail:
twitter.com/statesman/statuses/355881980539314176
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_Abyssinia
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twitter.com/KoltenParker/statuses/355878501271875584
Feces confiscated at TX capitol as abortion bill voting takes place
twitter.com/joethepleb/statuses/355882362472628224
Pro-Life Advocate Shoved Hard by Abortion Activist at Texas Capitol
Abortion Activists Boo Texas Pro-Lifers Singing “God Bless America”
Mom Makes Kids Hold Signs at Texas Rally for Late-Term Abortions
Abortion Activists Yell “Hail Satan” as Texas Pro-Lifers Sing Amazing Grace
Chaining to rail:
twitter.com/statesman/statuses/355881980539314176
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_Abyssinia
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twitter.com/KoltenParker/statuses/355878501271875584
Feces confiscated at TX capitol as abortion bill voting takes place
twitter.com/joethepleb/statuses/355882362472628224
Pro-Life Advocate Shoved Hard by Abortion Activist at Texas Capitol
Abortion Activists Boo Texas Pro-Lifers Singing “God Bless America”
Mom Makes Kids Hold Signs at Texas Rally for Late-Term Abortions
Abortion Activists Yell “Hail Satan” as Texas Pro-Lifers Sing Amazing Grace
Chaining to rail:
twitter.com/statesman/statuses/355881980539314176
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EmperorNapoleon
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So? That somehow makes confiscating tampons and pads while allowing guns less of a massive PR nightmare for these politicians?
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_Abyssinia
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twitter.com/KoltenParker/statuses/355878501271875584
Feces confiscated at TX capitol as abortion bill voting takes place
Do you approve of these things being removed from attendees? Do you think people should have a right to bring tampons and pads into a senate gallery? What do you think was the purpose of bringing the things that were confiscated?
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casey_cates
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RE: Abyssinia’s question. There has been a lot of confusion and misinformation about which side did what. To look at some of the media show it, there were barely any pro-lifers there, which was definitely not the case. I was there. If those items were the price of admission, so be it. My understanding is that they did it because of the threat that these items were going to be thrown at the pro-life politicians after the vote. This had been rumored all morning. I was only there from about 2:30 until about 6 p.m but after all I’d seen that day and on July 2 and July 7, it would not have surprised me.
I kept seeing things after I got home that the troopers were recommending pro-lifers stay away from the Capitol for their protection. I saw a tweeted picture of some pro-lifers holed up in offices for their protection.
I don’t know about all the veracity of all of these things since I left. I did see really ugly signs and taunting on the part of the pro-abortionists. For the most part, it seemed peaceful relative to violence (I really don’t think either side was about that) but definitely not quiet or respectful on the side of the pro-abortionists. I did see engaging on both sides and, unfortunately, the first day I was there , I myself engaged someone. So there was that.
I kept seeing things after I got home that the troopers were recommending pro-lifers stay away from the Capitol for their protection. I saw a tweeted picture of some pro-lifers holed up in offices for their protection.
I don’t know about all the veracity of all of these things since I left. I did see really ugly signs and taunting on the part of the pro-abortionists. For the most part, it seemed peaceful relative to violence (I really don’t think either side was about that) but definitely not quiet or respectful on the side of the pro-abortionists. I did see engaging on both sides and, unfortunately, the first day I was there , I myself engaged someone. So there was that.
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anp1215
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Alleluia!! Now on to the governor’s desk to be signed!
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andrewstx
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Don’t get me wrong, I was for this bill as well. But the tactics used to get it passed were not exactly innocent either.
After failing the first time due to lengthy filibustering, when they retried in the 3rd special session. The Republican dictators just severely limited filibustering and just shoved their way through in un-American fashion.
And what will happen to these newborns? Texas does not even have Medicaid, they have their own very pared down version. Texas tea partiers are not exactly friendly to welfare for these babies either.
One party dictatorship to me is more like the old Soviet dictatorship when the only ones allowed to vote were Communists. Texas has essentially done something similar with gerrymandering and voter ID.
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Raskolnikov
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I wouldn’t mind if they did away with filibustering altogether, actually. Problem is they won’t because they know they’ll be the ones doing it next time they’re on the outside looking in.
And one would hope that the possibility that these children will now actually be born will serve as a tangible incentive for policymakers to improve the social welfare system for said children.
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_Abyssinia
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Do you have a problem with California having a majority democrat legislature?
I do not know if there is anybody that can corroborate this, but this has been claimed regarding Wendy Davies:
lifenews.com/2013/07/09/no-surprise-abortion-activists-are-nasty-theyre-defending-unlimited-abortions
The disruption from those in the senate gallery opposed to the bill disrupted the legislative process and don’t you think it was fair that a second vote was done because of that gallery disruption?
Wendy Davies fillibuster was stopped because of the following:
washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/06/25/wait-how-did-texas-stop-wendy-davis-filibuster
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BroomWagon
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The first bill only failed by the rule of law per being voted on late. I understand the supporters of infanticide, the Democrats did some rule breaking as well. Amazing, what abortion supporters say.
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LisaA
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The usual canard. So you suggest better to abort babies than let them take their chances with the Texas Medicaid system?
Texas “Tea Party” members’ philosophy about taking other people’s money is irrelevant. Texas doesn’t have a state income tax so how do they impact “welfare babies?” Further you assume that all babies that would have been aborted at 20+ weeks are welfare babies? You presume that were the mother unable to take care of the child that no one would adopt? You presume there are not charities, including and maybe MOSTLY Catholic charities that would toss out a woman and baby into the streets?
These are the usual canards that are pulled out to claim that women “need” the right to kill unborn babies…PUH LEASE try that someplace other than a Catholic forum and you might have more luck.
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casey_cates
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]Originally Posted by andrewstx View Post
Don’t get me wrong, I was for this bill as well. But the tactics used to get it passed were not exactly innocent either.
After failing the first time due to lengthy filibustering, when they retried in the 3rd special session. The Republican dictators just severely limited filibustering and just shoved their way through in un-American fashion.B]
To which tactics are you referring. The governor can call a second special session if he wishes, just like Wendy Davis could have filibustered again but decided not to. That’s just what’s allowable in politics. I could say that filibustering is thwarting the democratic process, could I not? Each side did what they were allowed to do. Our state is a Pro-life Conservative state. Many of us have chosen to live here for that reason. If you don’t like it, there are many other states to live in.
And what will happen to these newborns? Texas does not even have Medicaid, they have their own very pared down version. Texas tea partiers are not exactly friendly to welfare for these babies either.
You’re making a lot of assumptions here. That all newborns in the 2nd trimester are aborted due to financial issues. We have WIC, Medicaid, Churches. I would say, "Where is Planned Parenthood if they really support ‘choice’. Why don’t they have any programs to help moms who have made the choice to allow their babies to live. What about the parents of the newborns and their parents.
One party dictatorship to me is more like the old Soviet dictatorship when the only ones allowed to vote were Communists. Texas has essentially done something similar with gerrymandering and voter ID.*
As much as you would like to call it a dictatorship, we are a red state. We elected these officials. If Perry would seek another term, I would vote for him again. Would you consider predominantly blue states dictatorial???***
Don’t get me wrong, I was for this bill as well. But the tactics used to get it passed were not exactly innocent either.
After failing the first time due to lengthy filibustering, when they retried in the 3rd special session. The Republican dictators just severely limited filibustering and just shoved their way through in un-American fashion.B]
To which tactics are you referring. The governor can call a second special session if he wishes, just like Wendy Davis could have filibustered again but decided not to. That’s just what’s allowable in politics. I could say that filibustering is thwarting the democratic process, could I not? Each side did what they were allowed to do. Our state is a Pro-life Conservative state. Many of us have chosen to live here for that reason. If you don’t like it, there are many other states to live in.
And what will happen to these newborns? Texas does not even have Medicaid, they have their own very pared down version. Texas tea partiers are not exactly friendly to welfare for these babies either.
You’re making a lot of assumptions here. That all newborns in the 2nd trimester are aborted due to financial issues. We have WIC, Medicaid, Churches. I would say, "Where is Planned Parenthood if they really support ‘choice’. Why don’t they have any programs to help moms who have made the choice to allow their babies to live. What about the parents of the newborns and their parents.
One party dictatorship to me is more like the old Soviet dictatorship when the only ones allowed to vote were Communists. Texas has essentially done something similar with gerrymandering and voter ID.*
As much as you would like to call it a dictatorship, we are a red state. We elected these officials. If Perry would seek another term, I would vote for him again. Would you consider predominantly blue states dictatorial???***
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BroomWagon
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_state_legislatures
From the list on the wikipedia article, you can see how many states have at least control of the House and Senate by one party. Kentucky and New Hampshire being exceptions. In a number of States, you have the Governorship falling into that pattern as well.
It is so common, it appears incredulous to single out Texas on this, call it a dictatorship and like the old Soviet Union.
From the list on the wikipedia article, you can see how many states have at least control of the House and Senate by one party. Kentucky and New Hampshire being exceptions. In a number of States, you have the Governorship falling into that pattern as well.
It is so common, it appears incredulous to single out Texas on this, call it a dictatorship and like the old Soviet Union.
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LisaA
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townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/07/10/proabort-wanrs-late-term-abortion-ban-means-less-sex-for-men-you-know-n1638047
This was in response to a PRO ABORTION blogger who said if you “stand with women” you will preserve the ability to have unprotected sex with women about whom you do not care nor the child you two may create. As she sums it up:
***Sherman’s post can really be summed up in one sentence: The sex lives of men are way more important than the lives of unborn children, so please, keep late term abortion available for women. Men like Sherman are still free to have irresponsible sex with as many women as they want, HB2 doesn’t limit their behavior. Nothing is stopping the sick bastards from asking (or forcing) women to get an abortion before the five-month mark. ***
Isn’t this truly disgusting? Once you peel away the layers of fluff and phony concern, the reality is that easy abortion has allowed MALES to be irresponsible as well. We all know that many women do not want to abort their babies but are pressured by the males (they are not MEN) because they don’t want to assume responsibility for protecting their women or their children.
What a hideous generation Roe has created. Those who survived are not willing to give the same consideration to the children THEY created. The truth hurts and the truth is that protecting access to lust, pleasure and fun are not reasons to kill another person.
Lisa
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