BREAKING: Texas Republicans pass abortion law after marathon filibuster

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Cider said:
So I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.
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No, you’re just wrong. 😃

I will say that the GOP leadership should not have allowed the situation to get to this point in the first place. They had 4 bills to pass in 30 days. The leadership failed to push this bill forward and get the business done. I pray that in the new special session, the leadership will stand up and get the job finished so the legal battles can begin.

In any case, I’m sure we can agree that this was a victory and more victories are ahead.

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TheRealJuliane said:
I could not disagree more. There is a time and a place for argument and this is not argument but mob rule, mob aggressiveness. We don’t invade the abortion clinics and scream at the doctors for doing what is legal. Our legislators were doing what their constituents WANT, and there must be order in government, or we are lost and our Constitution is meaningless.
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My sentiments exactly. When procedure is subverted by the loudest shouts, it’s mob rule, not “the people’s voice.” The “people” are reflected in whom they elect and not by those who stampede the Capitol. I’m not always happy with what my elected officials decide (most of the time I’m not happy since they are all but one Democrats :mad:) but my choice is to write, to call and to help elect others, not stop the legislative process with violence.

Although I’m staunchly pro-life I would not want screaming mobs in front of abortion clinics or people blocking the doors which was done figuratively and literally in Texas. We should respect the rule of law.

As to Wendy’s catheter…how truly revolting that a woman would go to this extent to permit continued destruction of unborn babies. It must take a particular straitjacket of ideology to go to such lengths for such an evil cause.

Lisa
 
Joe_5859 said:
Indeed! :eek: That does seem a bit much.
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But it shows us the level of devotion to their ideology that we’re fighting against. We need to step up and show them what true devotion is. As a Church, we have looked into the graves of pagan Rome, the Huns, the Islamic caliphates in Europe, the Mongols… All by standing firm in our Faith.
 
TheRealJuliane said:
Wendy Davis had a catheter inserted so she wouldn’t have to go to the bathroom. You know things have gone too far when people do such things in order to stop legislation.
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You mean when people do such things in order to ensure that more babies are killed.

Abby Johnson said she would stand for 13 hours, go without food, insert a catheter, whatever it took if it meant someone’s life would be saved. It is DISGUSTING that some will do the above in order to ensure that more lives are LOST.

Texans please contact the governor to ask for a second session. I have no doubt that he will do it, but it doesn’t hurt to add your voice.
 
TheRealJuliane said:
Do not lose heart! Gov. Perry WILL call another special session and the bill WILL be passed this time. I am sure the disorder in the gallery will not be repeated, and this will be a momentous occasion for the pro-life movement and indeed, every American. There will be a fight all the way up to the SCOTUS but this could be the beginning of the end for unrestricted legalized abortion.

Pray for our legislators! The Gov. is rock-solid pro-life, it would have been so awesome to have elected him for President in 2012.
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Sometimes I wish our legislatures had a version of the British parliamentary “I spy strangers”…
 
TheRealJuliane said:
Do not lose heart! Gov. Perry WILL call another special session and the bill WILL be passed this time. I am sure the disorder in the gallery will not be repeated, and this will be a momentous occasion for the pro-life movement and indeed, every American. There will be a fight all the way up to the SCOTUS but this could be the beginning of the end for unrestricted legalized abortion.

Pray for our legislators! The Gov. is rock-solid pro-life, it would have been so awesome to have elected him for President in 2012.
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Governor Perry is speaking at the National Right to Life Convention.
 
Personanongrata said:
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What the heck are you using this smiley for?? Do you mean you are happy that this bill did not pass? You call yourself a Catholic yet you do not approve of care for pregnant women up to the standard of any health clinic? That a 20 week old baby who has the right to be born, be protected in the womb until he/she can be born?

You put up that smiley here?

Are you serious.
 
Statement by the Texas Catholic Conference on Senate Bill 5 Vote on Abortion
June 26, 2013
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The Texas Catholic Conference is disappointed that the disruptions in the Senate chamber thwarted the Texas Senate from passing Senate Bill 5 before the midnight deadline. The Senate votes record shows that with 19 yeas and 10 nays, the measure had received more than enough votes necessary to pass. As a result, measures to protect unborn life and to increase the health and safety of Texas women have been delayed. Given this and other essential issues that are awaiting legislative action, the TCC urges Governor Perry to call a second special session quickly to address this and the other issues that were not resolved before time ran out on the first special session.

For more information, please contact Jeffery Patterson, executive director of the Texas Catholic conference at 512-658-4170 or via email at jeff@txcatholic.org.
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Cider said:
Sometimes peoples voices are chaos and disruption. When we shut them down, we are also shutting ourselves down the next time they try and pass something we don’t agree with. Same way I hate the laws passed in some areas making it illegal to pray or protest outside abortion clinics.
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In this case it’s not the people’s voice. This is a small minority of protestors who in effect prevented legitimate DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED authorities from doing their job and representing their constituents (the people) in the Texas senate.
 
TheRealJuliane said:
I have been following this from the beginning. Technically, the bill would have passed, since they started the vote before midnight, but the opponents would not agree on that point. Usually this is just a matter of procedure, but not this time.

Gov. Perry WILL call another special session, and the bill WILL be passed. The leadership in the GOP majority needs to step up and get it done. Of course it will be challenged legally but in the meantime, it will show the nation that we are unafraid to challenge the Democrat shibboleth of abortion.

Pray for our legislators and for Gov. Perry!
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Praying for your legislators and for Gov. Perry and missing living in the great state of Texas, more than I can say.
 
TheRealJuliane said:
Wendy Davis had a catheter inserted so she wouldn’t have to go to the bathroom. You know things have gone too far when people do such things in order to stop legislation.
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I applaud Ms. Davis!!! Good for her for believing and standing up for the rights of women. Women can make these medical decisions for themselves. They don’t need Rick “oops” Perry.
 
Personanongrata said:
I applaud Ms. Davis!!! Good for her for believing and standing up for the rights of women. Women can make these medical decisions for themselves. They don’t need Rick “oops” Perry.
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I will try my best to be charitable. You say that are a Catholic. Yet here you are, on a Catholic forum, supporting abortion and gloating at this travesty that disrupted democracy. Shame on you. Shame.
 
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