British Catholics and the Queen

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From the outside looking in, when I hear Brits say they want a republic instead of a constitutional monarchy, I think they are crazy.
Whenever a European monarchy goes away, it’s typically accompanied with a huge level of societal upheaval.
I doubt seriously if the taxpayer cost of supporting the royal family is much higher than other countries supporting their head of state.
I do not believe Britain would have survived it’s last existensia threat in 1940 without the leadership of George VI.
Societies need to be aware of the institutions which contribute to their coherency.

We americans have republic that took 620000 lives to solidify. I am glad we have one. But republics don’t come cheap, never have and never will. Most don’t last (France is on their 5th?). If you have something that works, be thankful.
 
Right. The Westminster system works. In both the UK and in the Commonwealth Realms.
 
tafan2 said:
From the outside looking in, when I hear Brits say they want a republic instead of a constitutional monarchy, I think they are crazy.
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The evidence is that most Brits want the monarchy .
 
Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Connor , Archbishop of Westminster , with Canon George Hall (L) after he gave a sermon at the church service attend by members of the Royal Family at St Mary’s Church, on the royal estate at Sandringham, Norfolk. He was the first member of the Catholic hierarchy to preach in one of the Queen’s own churches in 500 years.

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1364342/Queen-invites-cardinal-to-stay-at-Sandringham.html

The photograph below was taken in 2009 when Cardinal Cormac invited the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh to visit Archbishop’s House, his official residence, to mark his imminent retirement as the Archbishop of Westminster.

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If Britain were now a republic, who would be the president? Probably somebody like Tony Blair. Have you asked yourself what that would be like? Cherie Blair as first lady? However strongly you may be against the monarchy on principle, surely no king or queen could be worse than the Blairs.
 
@ BartholomewB , A Catholic head of state is that distasteful? 🙂
 
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@ BartholomewB A Catholic head of state is that distasteful? 🙂
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It depends on who the Catholic is .

The poster prior to your last post would appear to have problems with the Catholic Tony Blair being head of state .
 
Tony Blair hasn’t been prime minister for years and funnily enough he also converted to Catholicism after he left power
 
Tony Blair a Catholic? “We don’t do God.” Remember that? The pope might have reminded him about that when they met, but he evidently preferred to draw a discreet veil of silence over Blair’s pre-Catholic days.
 
Not a mortal sin. Not a venial sin. Just don’t get involved in a plot to overthrow the monarchy or blow up Parliament and you’ll be fine.

(OTOH, I am just a random stranger on the internet, and not even British! so I may be wrong.)

Try to be good and do good for others, and stop trying to figure out where you are sinning! Are you focusing on Christ or on yourself when you do this?
 
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LilyM said:
To be fair the Scottish people have done the same.
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No they haven’t. Scots voted on separation from the UK. Their Queen would have been the same person as the present Queen, but in right of Scotland only. They did not vote on becoming a republic. Also the Queen owes her position as Queen of the UK to her ancestor, the King of Scots, who then succeeded to the crown of England and united the kingdoms.
 
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Britain was already governed as a republic between 1649-1660 (or 1653-1660), under Cromwell. It was ruled by Parliament and a Council of State. When Oliver Cromwell, the Lord Protector, died, guess who tried to succeed him? That’s right, his son, Richard Cromwell. 😛 So even when Britain tried to be a republic, the people in power still tried to skew towards a monarchy. Because if it’s them, y’know, a monarchy/dictatorship/whatever isn’t so bad…
 
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LilyM:
To be fair the Scottish people have done the same.
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No they haven’t. Scots voted on separation from the UK. Their Queen would have been the same person as the present Queen, but in right of Scotland only. They did not vote on becoming a republic. Also the Queen owes her position as Queen of the UK to her ancestor, the King of Scots, who then succeeded to the crown of England and united the kingdoms.
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Apologies - Aussies voted only to retain QE2 as their Head of State. The Scots voted to remain part of the UK. Had they voted for separation they may down the track have also got rid of Liz as their Queen who knows.
 
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What ever happened to being a citizen of the planet Earth. Wait a minute…what year is this…
 
England is supposedly a democratic country. Its legislators are elected. If you live in England then you are allowed to campaign for a more republican form of government. In fact I believe there is such a group out there.
 
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