H
Holly3278
Guest
I sent feedback to Burger King on their feedback website and told them that I was strongly disappointed in them. I also told them I was boycotting them and encouraging others to boycott them too.
If we’re talking about solid catholic advice, then gays shouldn’t be dating anyone and should clearly be celibate…except for the fact that, without being open to their parents, they’ll just date people of the same sex in college. And even though they aren’t telling mom and dad, if mom or dad surprise visits them on campus and sees pictures of his/her boyfriend/girlfriend, they’ll immediately suspend help at that point. What you’re suggesting is that gays and lesbians should completely lie to everyone about what their attractions are, and that if they don’t, the parents are justified in removing all financial aid. Seems like solid, Catholic advice, clearly.
Only in America can heterosexuals make out in a park without being accused of “shoving your orientation in our face” but homosexuals holding hands or saying “you know what, I’m attracted to this person.” elicits that reaction.
And also, except that if Mom even thought I was, I would’ve been kicked out.Except if you were gay and your mom hated them, you could have always remained “in the closet” and you would have gotten helped.
Okay. For the sake of argument, if a Burger King in say, Hayden Lake Idaho, started selling a “White pride whopper” would you be saying the same thing: “ho hum, no big deal” ?Burger king has 13,000 franchises in 91 countries. I fail to see why I should be concerned about what a single franchise in San Francisco did.
Here is the issue: A non-religious organization which is no expert on morality does not hold a certain moral view that I hold. Boycotting this organization will bring no one to Christ, but will represent an evangelistic roadblock for some.You’re trivializing a serious issue.
Even in the abstract, Gay pride and white pride do not have the same goals. One seeks inclusion and diversity the other seeks exclusion and segregation. So no, it wouldn’t be “no big deal”.Okay. For the sake of argument, if a Burger King in say, Hayden Lake Idaho, started selling a “White pride whopper” would you be saying the same thing: “ho hum, no big deal” ?
Note: I am not comparing gays with racists.
That is still something that can be hidden. A person can never hide their race and they get judged for it. Gays have the luxury of leading a normal life if they so choose to by keeping their sexuality hidden. If I had the option of removing my skin to avoid being judged, Id do it in a heartbeat.And also, except that if Mom even thought I was, I would’ve been kicked out.
By gay lifestyle forced inclusion they segregate amd exclude practicing Christians.Even in the abstract, Gay pride and white pride do not have the same goals. One seeks inclusion and diversity the other seeks exclusion and segregation. So no, it wouldn’t be “no big deal”.
Go back and read the posts. Estesbob was making the argument that it doesn’t matter what one Burger King did** because it was just one Burger King among thousands**. So I posed the question I did. Using his logic, he would not be upset about a White pride whopper in Hayden Lake Idaho.Even in the abstract, Gay pride and white pride do not have the same goals. One seeks inclusion and diversity the other seeks exclusion and segregation. So no, it wouldn’t be “no big deal”.
The Burger King organization is made up of individuals. Who are you to say that among the individuals in the organization there wouldn’t be people who understand morality? Or is this your assessment of San Francisco?Here is the issue: A non-religious organization which is no expert on morality does not hold a certain moral view that I hold. Boycotting this organization will bring no one to Christ, but will represent an evangelistic roadblock for some.
None of that is funny. Rather, it tells me to vehemently oppose a boycott.
Yes-I hold each individual Franchise responsible for their actions-not all of the other 13,000Okay. For the sake of argument, if a Burger King in say, Hayden Lake Idaho, started selling a “White pride whopper” would you be saying the same thing: “ho hum, no big deal” ?
Note: I am not comparing gays with racists.
Gay pride seeks inclusion and diversity? Now that is a “whopper.” Gay pride seeks to ram the gay agenda down the throat of America. Anyone who does not embrace the gay lifestyle in all of its manifestations - is branded a homophobe/bigot. No. Gay pride is narrow-minded and anything but diverse.Even in the abstract, Gay pride and white pride do not have the same goals. One seeks inclusion and diversity the other seeks exclusion and segregation. So no, it wouldn’t be “no big deal”.
So considering that there are certain guidelines that franchises need to follow in order to be Burger King franchises, and not following those guidelines might jeopardize your ability to call your restaurant “Burger King” - it wouldn’t bother you that the Burger King brand tolerates a racist franchise?Yes-I hold each individual Franchise responsible for their actions-not all of the other 13,000
Corporate Burger King would come down on a “White Pride Whopper” like a ton of bricks. On the other hand, while Corporate may have been just a passive bystander at this franchisee’s experiemental “Gay Pride Whopper” this year, I am sure they watched with great interest while all this played out, measured the free publicity, and I predict that next year there will be many more “rainbow whoppers.”So considering that there are certain guidelines that franchises need to follow in order to be Burger King franchises, and not following those guidelines might jeopardize your ability to call your restaurant “Burger King” - it wouldn’t bother you that the Burger King brand tolerates a racist franchise?
Ishii
There you go. Corporate Burger King would indeed come down hard on a White pride whopper, but not a gay Whopper. The secular left has been pushing the boundaries for decades. This is just another step. I imagine campaigns in the future against Burger Kings around the country to force them to have a “pride Whopper” in recognition of gay pride.Corporate Burger King would come down on a “White Pride Whopper” like a ton of bricks. On the other hand, while Corporate may have been just a passive bystander at this franchisee’s experiemental “Gay Pride Whopper” this year, I am sure they watched with great interest while all this played out, measured the free publicity, and I predict that next year there will be many more “rainbow whoppers.”
On the list of things that bother me what an individual franchise of any type does doesn’t even hit my radar-unless if were a local business-then I would make my concerns knownSo considering that there are certain guidelines that franchises need to follow in order to be Burger King franchises, and not following those guidelines might jeopardize your ability to call your restaurant “Burger King” - it wouldn’t bother you that the Burger King brand tolerates a racist franchise?
Ishii
Noted. At least you are consistent. Regarding this Burger King issue - I will not boycott Burger King because, as I said earlier, I don’t go there in the first place. However, I think you need to look at the bigger picture here: 20 years ago this would have been unthinkable. But now, it doesn’t even surprise us. There is a creeping, incremental effort to legitimize the gay lifestyle. It started in movies/TV, music, pop culture, now in our education system, and in our politics. Now it has reached into fast food restaurants.On the list of things that bother me what an individual franchise of any type does doesn’t even hit my radar-unless if were a local business-then I would make my concerns known
Never set foot in the place. And I agree about the campaign to legitimize the gay lifestyle. I was a Real Housewives/Bravo addict until I realized it was actually affecting the way I look at things. I stopped watching that channel about 8 months ago and it really made a difference. But you can’t withdraw from secular culture. And I don’t know if boycotts do work because of the very few people who are doing it. You have to remember this is seen as a cultural shift in the same way that birth control or abortion was. It will take turning people’s life perspectives around, not just avoiding Burger King. I also think gay acceptance is actually kind of a fad to a lot of people. But like abortion, people who deal with social issues more seriously will continue to object. But they’ll be the minority - at least for the time being.Noted. At least you are consistent. Regarding this Burger King issue - I will not boycott Burger King because, as I said earlier, I don’t go there in the first place. However, I think you need to look at the bigger picture here: 20 years ago this would have been unthinkable. But now, it doesn’t even surprise us. There is a creeping, incremental effort to legitimize the gay lifestyle. It started in movies/TV, music, pop culture, now in our education system, and in our politics. Now it has reached into fast food restaurants.
Ishii
False dichotomy aside…can you simply answer the question?Let’s see you sacrifice your livelihood and drive yourself homeless for the sake of ‘right and wrong’. You can persist after that. You can’t muddy water that’s already muddy to begin with. That’s the problem I came to realize with with your moralist logic (and a painful lesson that was).