By what authority did five major US States simultaneously stop counting votes?

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The United States of America is NOT a democracy. It is a republic of sovereign states. In many matters, including the Presidential elections, the STATES decide how they want to do things. This is all described clearly in our U.S. Constitution.

VERY IMPORTANT: The people do NOT elect the President. We elect ELECTORS within our State who will elect our President. The date of the election is clearly spelled out in the U.S. Constitution, but there is no requirement that the tally be finished before 7:00 a.m. and the Today Show.

EVERY state determines how its citizen shall elect the electors. So there is no “waiting for a big box of votes for or against a certain candidate.” We are waiting to see which electors were voted in by the states, and it is these electors who will vote for the President in December. THAT is how our President is elected.

And of course, the states have the right to count the ballots when they choose–the electors do NOT get together to actually vote for the President until December! Of course, most states do count their votes ASAP because everyone wants to know how their electors will be voting, and especially in modern times, counting the ballots is quite a bit easier than it was when many of the states were wildnerness and barely settled.

The electors state who they plan to vote for, and we elect not the President, but the electors who have stated that they will be voting for our candidate. In the end, the electors with the most votes win the state election, and will be voting for the candidate that they pledged to vote for, which is the will of the majority of the people in their state.

Again, very important–the electors do not have to vote for the candidate that they pledged to vote for. They CAN (and have) flipped. There is a small financial fine for electors who flip their vote, and they will probably incur the livid wrath of many in their states! But this provision is made so that the electors, who are supposedly wiser and “more in the know” than the citizens, can stop the people from electing a crackpot or someone else who is clearly unqualified to be the President (e.g., someone who is obviously mentally-ill but very popular, or someone who is a criminal and has terrorized the people into voting for them).

In recent years, when electors have flipped, there is a big controversy and the elector falls under tremendous attack from his/her state’s citizens, and this makes sense–we feel like our votes are being cast aside. But it doesn’t happen very often.

So chill–the U.S. Constitution ROCKS! 😌
 
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Very llong, very interesting and very useful, thankyou.

But nothing to do with the the topic.
 
Pattylt said:
Pardon my ignorance…which five states stopped counting?
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I was wondering this as well. The only states that I can find that have stopped counting votes have done so because they are finished. Which states have just ceased counting?
 
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Me neither. But, don’t say it seems suspicious, because in spite of all the evidence to the contrary, your eyes are lying to you, just ask Politifact, CNN, MSNBC, and Twitter.
 
WI. MI, PA,NC, and NV. They didnt stop counting, they stopped report the count. They had to find votes for Joe.
 
At the time of that press conference it appeared that Trump would have 290 Electoral votes, and he reasoned the percentages of votes those states had counted to that point was insurmountable. He had a comfortable lead in those five states at the time of the conference.

It’s rigged and there are probably Republicans in on it. EVERYTHING is for sale.
 
Just watch it and hear what he said


Note what Pence said at the end

Edit: well they cut pence off but you can find the whole thing on other videos
 
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Why are the callers deliberately stalling?

For the last several hours, Georgia has had 97% of the vote in, Mr. Trump has a very narrow lead, but they refuse to call it for him.

North Carolina has had 94% of the vote in, also for the last several hours, and he has lead steadily there by a wider margin than Georgia, yet they are refusing to call that state for him, either.

All the focus is on what’s happening in Pennsylvania, which we may not know about for a few more days, yet the two southern states in which Trump has clearly been ahead for hours on end are being completely ignored.

WHEN are they going to call those?
 
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The answer for the OP is one that is easily defined as “to silence, cancel the voice of voting citizens”

Before we get all excited & find reason for this to be even slightly acceptable, please let it sink in that what is at stake is the foundation of ALL democracies on the planet.
 
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JanR said:
For the last several hours, Georgia has had 97% of the vote in, Mr. Trump has a very narrow lead, but they refuse to call it for him
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Your answer is the fact that Trump has as you say “a very narrow lead”
It cant be called for one candidate or another.
There is only 0.6% difference between Trump and Biden in Georgia.
And if they’ve tabulated 97% of the vote
That means 3% of the votes still need to be
counted.
At 0.6% difference between the candidates, and 3% of the votes still outstanding, that is a razor thin edge that can’t yet be called for either Trump or Biden
 
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Okay, but his lead is much wider in North Carolina, and has held steady that way for hours. They have 94% of the vote in.

The callers were really quick to call Arizona for Biden with a million or so votes yet to come in or be counted, but they won’t call Trump’s lead in North Carolina with only a tiny percentage of votes left to be accounted for.

That spells intentional bias, to me.
 
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Okay, but his lead is much wider in North Carolina, and has held steady that way for hours. They have 94% of the vote in.
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My answer for North Carolina remains the same.
There is 1.4% point difference between Trump and Biden. And an even larger margin of votes (6%) of the votes still need to be counted.

With Arizona, watching the news tonight, they do have most of the votes through state accounted for. With the exception of Maricopa county ( the Phoenix area) left to be counted.
There is a 2.8 % difference between Biden and Trump. Which translates to a difference of 79000 votes.
I don’t know how many physical ballots are left to count in Maricopa county, but it may be that 79000 vote deficit is too much for Trump to overcome in Maricopa county
 
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If any area is going to go R, it is the rural areas, and they usually get their counts in first.

When the Ds have a lead with only the cities left to count, the tv people feel safe to call for them since the cities will probably just continue the trend, but when the Rs have a lead, those votes may be overwhelmed by the city votes so the tv people do not like to call for the Rs.
 
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umamibella said:
Trump further claimed
This is a fraud on the American public,” the president said a the White House. “This is an embarrassment to our country.”
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What was Trump’s answer when questioned on if he would accept election results several weeks ago?
 
Im a Trump supporter and I suspect that in one or two states Democrats are trying to rig the result. BUT I see no conspiracy in media choosing to wait until a result is beyond possible change before calling it. After all, if they get it wrong it isn’t a binding call and it will make them look stupid if they were wrong.
 
That press conference from 2 or 3 am has been edited. I watched it again on Trumps twitter. I first watched it live.
 
The key point: he NEVER said “stop vote counting “ he said “stop voting “

There is one state which accepts ballots post-marked election-day for several days to come. Im sure that’s one of the aspects he had in mind.
 
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