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Beryllos
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Never say never.
Whoops! I just said it twice. Well, hopefully you know what I mean. People said a black man couldn’t be elected President of the United States. Or a celebrity with no political experience. Or a woman, and she came close. Right now the political scene in the US is so perversely disordered, I think anything is possible.
I think the biggest obstacle for the American Solidarity Party is not the maths, but the heart of the people. Justice and life are out of fashion. Americans today care mostly about pleasure, wealth, power, and honor. That could change, but I expect things will get worse before they get better.
This year, the only thing I know for certain is that I have one vote, and I’ll cast it for righteousness. Those who choose the lesser of two evils do so at their own peril.
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Anrakyr
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LoL, I do.
There’s a bit of a difference here. One is a social change the other is breaking a cycle.
Your voting system is designed for two parties. While It can have other parties your government can’t or won’t function on it. Even if you manage to land a few congressmen it’s amazingly simple to freeze them out rending them ineffective. This, in turn, will make the voting base give up.
Not that I’m advocating it but you would need a revolution or massive disaster that would plant doubt that the powers that be can not function at all for the people’s needs forcing them to adopt a new system.
Ominous and a bit judgemental. People always have the option to just not vote among other things.
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whatistrue
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I happen to believe that the best way for this cycle to be broken is by each and every voter casting their vote for the candidate who most closely matches their views. If perceived electability is a factor, then change is impossible; but if everyone “votes their conscience” change is inevitable in the long run. Problem is getting the average voter to think outside the box they have willingly climbed into. Personal opinion only; not arguing this as a fact.
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Anrakyr
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Which won’t happen because the system is built on punishing that.
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whatistrue
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Not really punish, more like completely ignore. But if enough people did it (yeah, I know, pipe dream), it could no longer be either ignored or punished without further changing the system itself.
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Anrakyr
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So why chase the pipe dream?
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whatistrue
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Why should we not? Do we really want things to never get better?
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TheLittleLady
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Have you read the current Democrat Party platform?
https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/
The goals outlined, chapter by chapter, is the goal of Economic Security anti-Christ?
Good stewardship of the earth or supporting Veterans, anti-Christ?
While I am FIRMLY out of the 2 party system, I encourage people to read the actual platforms of all parties, don’t just rely on what someone said or what one heard online.
https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/
The goals outlined, chapter by chapter, is the goal of Economic Security anti-Christ?
Good stewardship of the earth or supporting Veterans, anti-Christ?
While I am FIRMLY out of the 2 party system, I encourage people to read the actual platforms of all parties, don’t just rely on what someone said or what one heard online.
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Anrakyr
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There are other ways, using the existing system on itself for instance. Slower but there are real attempts at this.
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whatistrue
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Oddly enough, I don’t actually have an issue with the Electoral College. In fact, I would like to go back to the original system: most votes = President; second most = Vice President. I think it would encourage more candidates and therefore more choices.
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Anrakyr
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Wait what? That is not what I’m getting to at all and you don’t vote for your present, the states do.
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whatistrue
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Yes, I am familiar with how the Electoral College works, and how it worked originally. I must confess that I could not look at the video because of where I am, but my remarks were strictly based on the use of the phrase subvert the electoral college in the title…
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Christianbook
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Be what your heart tells you to be. Nowhere in the bible does it tell you to be a certain party. It is your values and morals that makes that decision. No matter how ignorant political citizens can be, in the end of the day both parties do things that are right and do things that are wrong ans its up to you to decide which one you has issues that needs to be resolved. For example: Abortion is a big topic. God said do not kill. Abortion is killing. In that sense, this side is doing what God wants to happen that the other side doesnt. But, in return, are Aborted kids the only ones suffering? Trump decided to kill someone of importance causing people, (those in my family) to be drafted. Yet he tweets that everything is alright when families members are dying. God said do not kill. But yet he is killing. Its in the way you look at things, it is your opinions and it is your heart. As long as your decisions aren’t full of hatred and anger and power hungry, then, you are doing the right thing based off of your own thoughts. And I think that is what God wants. Never Judge. NEVER JUDGE. Jesus said what? NEVER JUDGE. The bible says what NEVER JUDGE. Love one another.
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phil19034
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FYI - Those numbers are NOT proof. They are coincidences.
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TheLittleLady
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That is also the reason I left the Republican party, they are pro-abortion if the father is a criminal or if the mother will have emotional/physical trouble.
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I don’t see how it is possible for a Christian to intentionally want to empower a group as dedicated to a “culture of death” as the Democrats are.
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Elizabeth3
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Someone of importance? A known terrorist who had plans to attack innocent Americans. While I am always sorry when those who serve in the Armed Forces give their lives as a result of their service, they know that is a possibility when they sign up. Even though God said “Do not kill” the Church has stated that the state has a right to wage war under certain circumstances and that only legitimate authorities can declare war. It is unfair to say Trump is killing.
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Poet
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I’m not a huge fan of SNOPES because they’re very biased, which makes it all the more telling that EVEN SNOPES says it’s false that abortion rates fall under Democratic presidencies. Why would they? Democrats, as a party, do everything in their power to promote abortion as a positive good, to fund Planned Parenthood, which is making millions upon millions committing abortions.
www.snopes.com
Do Abortion Rates Fall During Democratic Administrations, Rise During Republican Ones?
Abortion rates have risen and fallen throughout presidencies of both parties, making drawing a direct correlation between the two untenable.
www.snopes.com
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