Not trying to derail, but that statistic is flawed.
By your own definition, 41% of devout Catholics voted for Obama. 68% of the less devout Catholics voted for him. Your statistics are even more mystifying.
I am struggling to find the source of your information. Please don’t say the New Testiment because that would be false. Are we still living in the days before the preachings of peace by Christ? Are we not suppose to resemble our lives to His? When did He kill? Who are we to decide when a person has forfeited his life?
I have read read Mr Obama’s statements before the Il Senate. They are, to say the least, chilling. There is nothing ambiguous about his protection of unfettered abortion, including the right of the mother to “choose” even after a live birth.
Hey, I never said that Catholics were perfect. The problem is one of pure ignorance. I wish it was 4.1% and that the 68% would leave the faith until they learn what it is all about, but that is my selfish wish
I meant no criticism. I truly find the statistics mystifying.
I don’t understand, either. I will continue to pray for those who have wandered from the faith (consider yourself now on my prayer list) but I am mystified at why more don’t leave. If I had no intention of living up to the tenets of the faith, even those I find difficult to grapple with, I’d find some nice Eastern religion on which to hang my hat. It seems almost cowardly and hateful to me to cause a ruckus and scandal to a body simply because it won’t bend to my will.
I’m not sure this is actually a purely Catholic question. Any Christian, at least theoretically, subscribes to the belief that murder is wrong. Abortion is clearly murder. Only the secular culture, not the churches, have sought to redefine abortion as something that it is not (just a choice, a woman’s prerogative, etc.) So it’s pointless to nitpick among the various sects. It’s truly not a “Catholic” thing.
Indeed.
Leave the faith? What defines a Catholic, is it just a title or is it based upon ones deeds and actions?
So us as catholics and christains in general were faced with a lose lose situation. We can either vote for one who supports the killing of babies, or we can vote for another who supports the killing of innocents…How do we make that choice? Abortion is gonna be here regardless of how the president feels about it. But Obama at least wants to stop the war. Personally I still voted for McCain because I can’t even begin to think of following under a leader who supports abortion so strongly as Obama does. But either way, each candidate supported death. I don’t see what’s so complicated about PEACE!!!
A Catholic is someone who believes all that the Church has set down as doctrine. Belief is not a mere intellectual exercise, as many seem to want to make it. Belief gives rise to actions consistent with that belief. One of those “actions” is voting in accordance with your conscience, a conscience that has been formed in accordance with such beliefs.
I don’t know what’s so complicated about peace either.
Agreed, I understand it is too late now, espcially since our tactics towards peace involve violence. But I don’t believe that people truly want peace, they want power. And therefor, there will never be peace.I don’t know what’s so complicated about peace either.
And I submit that those who want to stop fighting against terrorism be the first to volunteer to go see Osama Bin Laden and invite him to the peace talks!
The problem arises when one side is agreeable to peace, while the other side is agreeable only to war. How do you make peace with someone who wants to kill you and will make every attempt to do so, as soon as possible? Do we just lay down and die? That’s not making peace, that’s suicide.
Yes and I find the comparison between a helpless innocent life and someone convicted of the most heinous crimes odious.
Not only that, but if all Christians lived the life of Christ, the entire world would be Christian.
It is not a lose-lose situation, unless you consider both options to be losers.