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RobertLGarrett
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What do you mean “ok with the death penalty?” I’m opposed to the death penalty. I just don’t think it is equivalent to abortion. Regarding other factors, mental capacity, revenge killing as opposed to self-defense, etc.; yes, these are all mitigating factors that effect the sinfulness and/or gravity of the act.But is it self defense when he/she is killed by another well after any way to defend the victim has come to past? What if the aggressor is mentally handicapped? Still ok with the death penalty?
The only disagreement we have there is bolded above. If you are in a war, as a soldier, you may be called upon to initiate the attack. You don’t have to wait for your enemy to directly fire upon you in order for your attack to be licit.Killing an enemy of war is not considered because when under direct fire under combat it is self-defense ( I have been consoled by many priests about this one sad to say). However, if you start a war that is morally wrong for political, financial, etc. etc. that is sin.
To kill your enemy after he/she has surrendered and is unarmed is murder. Not only by Geneval Convention but also CCC.
I am unclear about the question of the reason for war (“morally wrong for political, financial, etc.”) and the effect that has on the acts of the individual soldier. I don’t believe, for example, that a US soldier performing his duties is in a state of mortal sin for going to Iraq and doing his job, even though there is a question about the licitness of the war. This assumes, of course, that the soldier is not firing on an enemy who has his hands up in surrender and the like…
We all agree that “life snuffed out by…” is sad. That is not what is in question here. The question is “why abortion is much worse than the Iraq War.” I think I have made the case for that.I agree it is sad and disturbing the amount of innocent life in the womb is snuffed out each day, but so is the life snuffed out by human greed, political gains, hatred, etc.
I have accepted everything from the Catechism as truth (whether you quoted it or not), so I’m not sure what you are getting at. On the other hand, you have not been able to demonstrate that abortion is not worse than war (Iraq or otherwise). Until you do, you have lost the argument.I have pointed out again and again where in CCC, Scripture and Catholic Social Teacher this case. Its up to you to accept it or not. Its part of Free Will. It’s between you and your Creator.