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I agree with you. I was replying to Texas’ post that God hates both the sin and the sinner.
I agree with you. I was replying to Texas’ post that God hates both the sin and the sinner.
Forget masturbation…what about eating a hot dog on a Fri. in Lent & not repenting?Many of the responses here tell us that we send ourselves to hell. I don’t doubt that repeated unrepentant sins like murder, rape, mutilation would be grounds for hell ,but let’s take masturbation for example. A person maturbating should burn in hell forever? We often here God called our Father, and we are his children. A parent could punish a child temporarily but not forever and ever.
That’s why to me, the love factor plays a stronger role. Yes, Jesus died for our sins. But if that’s the case,shouldn’t all go to heaven?
I think the Catholic doctrine of purgatory makes sense in that outside of being in a state of grace , you have a chance. I have to wonder about all the ancient civilizations that knew nothing of Christ as well.
We don’t all go to heaven because some people simply don’t want to go to heaven. God can’t make us love him, because that wouldn’t be real love. It’s a matter of the heart. Sin as a fruit of a godless, unrepentant life (you don’t have to be Catholic to know right from wrong) is different to the sins someone struggles with (and repents) as they draw closer to God.Many of the responses here tell us that we send ourselves to hell. I don’t doubt that repeated unrepentant sins like murder, rape, mutilation would be grounds for hell ,but let’s take masturbation for example. A person maturbating should burn in hell forever? We often here God called our Father, and we are his children. A parent could punish a child temporarily but not forever and ever.
That’s why to me, the love factor plays a stronger role. Yes, Jesus died for our sins. But if that’s the case,shouldn’t all go to heaven?
I think the Catholic doctrine of purgatory makes sense in that outside of being in a state of grace , you have a chance. I have to wonder about all the ancient civilizations that knew nothing of Christ as well.
If your post really was deleted, then I’d lay odds that it was inappropriately graphic.If God forgives all sin if one repents, then why don’t many of his followers?
Because to people, it depends on what sin it is…Mine were too bad to be posted in Catholic forum apparently…Love the sinner, but not the sin? I doubt that very much.
I once wrote in here what i did and my comments were removed and i had a six month ban. I would much rather see the “true nature” of people who claim to “love me”.
If i am going to hell for not having confessed to a falible Priest, who, himself didn’t want me near his church and his congregation, then i will let Jesus, if He is there, to deal with me as He chooses.
I would rather confess to Our Lady than any Priest anyway…The most perfect intercessors, If i truly believed she was there too.
What do you mean what you were… that doesn’t… The moderators only hand out long suspensions for big things. Short of knowing what you wrote it’s impossible to tell if you’re right or not.Then you lose…I didn’t go into detail…I just wrote what i did ,or should i say…was.
I’ll give your donation to a Catholic charity of your choice…I just corrected the part i wrote here because i should not have written it…so, sorry.
That’s not the same as a sin because its subject to change. Similar to the fact that at one time you could not touch the Eucharist , but now you can.Forget masturbation…what about eating a hot dog on a Fri. in Lent & not repenting?
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I think the difference is that master stood is a sin and that will not change. Eating meat is subject to change, similar to the fact that at one time the Eucharist could not be touched, but now it can be.Forget masturbation…what about eating a hot dog on a Fri. in Lent & not repenting?
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A born again Christian once told me everyone will be given a chance to accept Jesus, even people in the jungles of Africa.Many of the responses here tell us that we send ourselves to hell. I don’t doubt that repeated unrepentant sins like murder, rape, mutilation would be grounds for hell ,but let’s take masturbation for example. A person maturbating should burn in hell forever? We often here God called our Father, and we are his children. A parent could punish a child temporarily but not forever and ever.
That’s why to me, the love factor plays a stronger role. Yes, Jesus died for our sins. But if that’s the case,shouldn’t all go to heaven?
I think the Catholic doctrine of purgatory makes sense in that outside of being in a state of grace , you have a chance. I have to wonder about all the ancient civilizations that knew nothing of Christ as well.
It is because God’s immense love extends to such little details that such an action constitutes a mortal sin - provided, of course, that full knowledge etc., is present. Attached to every act of faith and obedience, including obedience to the Church’s disciplines, is a reward so great that we cannot adequately describe it. Think, then, of how ungrateful - how objectively evil - it is of us to spurn such gifts, which are not only for our own benefit, but for the benefit of our fellow human beings.Forget masturbation…what about eating a hot dog on a Fri. in Lent & not repenting?
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I was in the wrong i guess, for calling myself out for what i was and for testing people for what i believe they are, or what they ain’t!! …Btw, i was never sentenced…I did what was considered unforgiveful in the true hearts of people…i did not go as far some have done, in regards to the actions, but still…I confessed to one of those i harmed and she, An Atheist, forgave me…I don’t think i was believed because people don’t tend to believe someone who did those things i did, unless they are already accused…Priests have been accused…good enough clue? DO THE CIRCUMSTANCES NOW CHANGE NOW THAT YOU KNOW? LOL! …By the way…just in case i am called out for laughing… that was an ironic, uneasy laugh…one with deep sorrow as well, if you can believe thatWhat do you mean what you were… that doesn’t… The moderators only hand out long suspensions for big things. Short of knowing what you wrote it’s impossible to tell if you’re right or not.
Either way, you should use your interactions with a handful of people as the basis for massive decisions about your life. As for your comments about “the priest not wanting you around,” about the only way that’d be true is if:
#1 You did something terrible to the Church or another member and acted completely unrepentant.
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#2: The priest was wrong in sending you away.
Again, without knowing the circumstances, it’s impossible to know who was in the right. Regardless of that, this has no affect on God’s desire to see you receive repentance. Feel free to confess to Mary, but always keep in mind that Christ didn’t give his mother that ability to forgive sins, he gave it to his disciples.
He loves us so much he gave us free will. The ability to choose Him.George Carlin famously said in one of his comedy routines about religion (and I’m paraphrasing), ‘God will send you to hell where you will suffer and burn forever and ever…but he loves you.’
I know many immediately think that God doesn’t send you to hell, you send yourself in a way, but even putting that aside, from a human standpoint, suffering and burning forever and ever seems extreme for a possible one time sin or even a perpetual sin. Does hell seem extreme to anyone…in any case?
An Unpublished Manuscript on PurgatoryGeorge Carlin famously said in one of his comedy routines about religion (and I’m paraphrasing), ‘God will send you to hell where you will suffer and burn forever and ever…but he loves you.’
I know many immediately think that God doesn’t send you to hell, you send yourself in a way, but even putting that aside, from a human standpoint, suffering and burning forever and ever seems extreme for a possible one time sin or even a perpetual sin. Does hell seem extreme to anyone…in any case?