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Yes, that’s why I made the comment I did. I don’t want Trump either, but apparently all the Apprentice fans do.Speaking for New Zealand, yes we are further to the left. (Incidentally, your compatriots resident in NZ voted overwhelmingly for Bernie Sanders)
But of course we accept the US is a totally different country - not as secular as mine, for a start, and that has to be a good thing!
You are wrong to assume we’d regard any Republican candidate with horror. The rest of them look fine to us in so far as we know much about them, even if we would be Democrat voters.
Granted we do not understand the American political system (it’s soooooo complicated!) and we don’t know all the background stuff about your guys/gal (!), but we do know a bit about Trump. He’s the only one we’ve ever regarded with horror as far as I can remember.
(OK, we didn’t rate GWB vey highly.…)
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And here we go, fear Trump, fear Trump, fear Trump but no back up, the sky is falling.+Speaking for New Zealand, yes we are further to the left. (Incidentally, your compatriots resident in NZ voted overwhelmingly for Bernie Sanders
But of course we accept the US is a totally different country - not as secular as mine, for a start, and that has to be a good thing!
You are wrong to assume we’d regard any Republican candidate with horror. The rest of them look fine to us in so far as we know much about them, even if we would be Democrat voters.
Granted we do not understand the American political system (it’s soooooo complicated!) and we don’t know all the background stuff about your guys/gal (!), but we do know a bit about Trump. He’s the only one we’ve ever regarded with horror as far as I can remember.
(OK, we didn’t rate GWB vey highly…)
I don’t buy the genocide through abortion of the Democratic Party, I consider that more alarming, I consider leaving Iraq and seeing things break loose over there as more alarming, I see not having a secured border, which it seems Australia and New Zealand with their comparatively “homogeneous” society do not have, as alarming as well.
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By the end, neither did anyone else.
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First off, there is not one singular endorsement.
Trump has a following in France and in England.
Sure, some voices have been heard per China and Mexico on Trump and not being positive in that.
Trump is not my first choice but he hasn’t started wars, he talks honestly, hopefully, he doesn’t see America as just something to run into the ground and treat foreigners better than Americans.
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gracepoole
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There are multiple threads in which we can find all sorts of sources regarding Trump. I don’t know that it’s necessary to repeatedly post them each time we want to reference concerns about him.
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gracepoole
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Which candidate wants to run America into the ground?
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I suppose the reference is to Obama and perhaps also Clinton, who bases her campaign on building upon Obama’s accomplishment, and Sanders, who is a democratic socialist.
I doubt ANY president or candidate for the presidency, including Trump, “wants to run America into the ground.”
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I hope none of the current ones do; this is more about the last 8 years however, continuing the administration’s policy’s would be running the country into the ground more.
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Oh, and what is so horrifying? Didn’t say something correctly? Used a curse word or insulted someone? Oh, dear, that must disqualify him and make others look upon us with horror!
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On this note, one could talk about Trump merely saying that remark about dipping bullets into pig fat; not too swift.
To refuse to call something “Islamic Terrorism” is more of a travesty.
To refuse to call something “Islamic Terrorism” is more of a travesty.
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Specifically, this current administration has run the nation into the ground, with gay marriage, not securing the border, quashing religious freedoms. Some accomplishments!
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Adding on, racial strife that has not been seen in decades, failed foreign policy and so on.
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gracepoole
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I’m pretty sure you know the concerns to which folks typically refer, even if you don’t agree with them – Trump calling for a ban of Muslim refugees, telling Fox and Friends that he advocates a war crime, demeaning comments about women and Mexicans…
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Pretty mild stuff, if one uses the same inflammatory language of the other side, the Democratic Party, mildly put, pushes a culture of death and seems to treat foreigners better than Americans.
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They all seem short on specifics, like how is his foreign policy more war like than Hillary the Hawk, or why should we be afraid of following the ‘rule of law’
And the National Debt growing from 10 to 19+ Trillion, that’s a big hole
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gracepoole
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I wouldn’t characterize war crimes and xenophobia as “pretty mild stuff” but perhaps that’s just me.
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War Crimes? Water boarding? It is not better to allow Americans do die. But that’s just me.
Xenophobia? Illegals have killed, robbed and otherwise hurt many Americans, saying Xenophobia must be a comfort to the families who have lost loved ones.
But that’s just me.
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I expect my President to do everything legally possible to protect the country. Under Bush, it was deemed legal to waterboard terrorists to gather critical intel. The war crimes are only in your mind, as is the xenophobia.
Following the rule of law on immigration is not xenophobic. We accept 1million legal immigrants every year, which is fantastic. However, reducing illegal immigrants creates jobs for unemployed citizens without even growing the economy. It’s a no-brainer.
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kpeople: The UKayers, the NewZ’s, the rest of the EU - the American people have been restraining themselves from “do-nothing” politicians and “do terrible things” politicians. We are sizing up the field of contenders and see that Mr. Trump displays qualities that are needed to recover from the last near 8 years. and the real threat of a Socialist Revolutionary plus a veteran political grifter.Most Americans that are trying to undo/live through this last Administration realize the “established” Repubs just did not accomplish what they were repeatedly asked to do. Now it seems that they are afraid Trump will rock their boat too! Good! We need a good rocking! We do not need to be deterred by those who are protecting their turf.
Who would have guessed we would be hearing from Mitch Romney. People gave him so much heartfelt hope and when confronted with Democrat trickery he “choked”. Best guess is that since Jeb Bush did not do well, and ended his unhappy bid, that his supporters decided to give ole Mitt a call - the established Republicans were feeling a pinch.
There had better not be any Democrat Party tricks played by the Republican Party - talk of a “brokered” convention.l We, the Republican voters, will turn out to fire everyone of them as their turn comes up. We demand honest voter driven elections, not super-
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