Cardinal George to honor race-baiting Father Michael Pfleger (with lifetime achievement award)

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We have a real problem here in the Chicago Archdiocese. Pfleger is just one little pimple (in a very prominent spot - tip of the nose maybe) on an Archdiocese face full of acne. The whole Archdiocese (clergy, employees, influential laity and volunteers) is infested with leftist, dissenting persons. Sarcasm aside, the RCIA is probably infested as well. If they get wind that a candidate is a conservative they would probably throw them out of the program. Please remember - this is Obama land - the majority of people (including Catholics) support left leaning structures - the Chicago Church encourages this. Pleger probably caused people to rush to join the Chicago version of Catholicism.
He is the 1 we see (or saw) from down here in Texas.

My former post-I was being facetious, of course.

I will say this—if all Priests were like Pfleger, I wouldn’t belong to the Catholic Church.
Since they aren’t, and I’m a member, if he was our Local Priest-I’d go elsewhere.

God Bless.
+Peace In Christ.
Love, Dawn
 
Those who defend this Priest remind me of those (within the Catholic Faith) who defend United Way.

United Way does some good in communities.

UW will also pay for your abortion. This one fact alone—we are not allowed to contribute therefore.

Supporting Abortion negates all the other “good.” Trumps it. Outlaws it. Call it what you want.

The Bishops were clear in their directives before this last Election.
This Priest defied the directives and supported the pro-Abortion Candidate. In public! Country-Wide, we saw it.

God Bless.
+Peace Be With You.
Love, Dawn
 
He is the 1 we see (or saw) from down here in Texas.

My former post-I was being facetious, of course.

I will say this—if all Priests were like Pfleger, I wouldn’t belong to the Catholic Church.
Since they aren’t, and I’m a member, if he was our Local Priest-I’d go elsewhere.

God Bless.
+Peace In Christ.
Love, Dawn
As long as there are priests like Phleger in the Church, priests who are not afraid to confront evil wherever it is, and who work for social justice and to alleviate the sufferings of those in their own backyard, I have no problem remaining in the Catholic Church. Most Catholics just want ‘churchy stuff’ and go to church on Sunday to feel good about themselves, not to get up off their behinds and actually DO something and actively put into practice the spiritual and corporal works of mercy. For them, these types of Catholics have already received their ‘reward’. They shouldn’t expect anything when they die.
 
Peary, you’re even more over-the-top here than the Phleger reactionists! You seriously think you’re qualified to comment on the motivations of most catholics??

Lord have mercy.

As I said earlier, everybody’s bigotted. It comes with being a sinful human. Thanks for supplying more evidence. 😦

Dawn, it IS hard to understand why too many high profile catholics with seemingly sincere hearts simply look the other way when it comes to abortion. That too goes back to sinful human nature. It’s far easier to get worked up about the injustices that slap you in the face every day than those that can be conveniently hidden away. Humans are very good at purposely not noticing things. Us ‘nice’ suburban folks are guilty of that as well if we do nothing to work against the injustice of racism. In other words, its always better to check the mirror first before declaring the kettle black. (no pun intended!)
 
Most Catholics just want ‘churchy stuff’ and go to church on Sunday to feel good about themselves, not to get up off their behinds and actually DO something and actively put into practice the spiritual and corporal works of mercy. For them, these types of Catholics have already received their ‘reward’. They shouldn’t expect anything when they die.
erm… that might be going too far. There are many ways to make the world better. Praying and raising families are no less important than doing social justice work.

The problem comes when we start throwing stones at people who aren’t on the particular path that God has set for us. Some of us are drawn to prayer, others to fighting drugs, others to abortion relief, others to raising children etc. All are valuable, all are necessary.

To me, Fr. Pfleger has occasionally crossed the line into excess. His style is not my style. But he has built the Catholic Church in ways that I could never do. I think it is valuable to recognize that we all have different talents and ideally God helps us put them to use.
 
Fr. Pfleger publicly endorsed a rabidly pro-abortion candidate (Barack Obama). That alone should disqualify him for consideration of any sort of honor, award, or any other sort of public praise, unless and until he publicly recants.
Well, the president is not rabidly pro-abortion. You can see that from his recent executive order healthcare.

I don’t know if the good father endorsed Obama or not, but I know that the cardinal met with the president-elect before Obama left for the DC inauguration.

All you folks who are expressing great umbrage at this honoring of Father Pfleger just need to exhale. This is like the case of the protesters outside the cathedral – more was made of the incident by posters on this forum than by Chicago Catholics or the Chicago archdiocese newspaper.
 
Well, the president is not rabidly pro-abortion. You can see that from his recent executive order healthcare.

I don’t know if the good father endorsed Obama or not, but I know that the cardinal met with the president-elect before Obama left for the DC inauguration.

All you folks who are expressing great umbrage at this honoring of Father Pfleger just need to exhale. This is like the case of the protesters outside the cathedral – more was made of the incident by posters on this forum than by Chicago Catholics or the Chicago archdiocese newspaper.
Come on. Obama is certainly rabidly pro-abortion. The executive order is worthless and he did actively endorse and campaign for Obama.
 
That Father Pfleger would be within 100 miles of candidate and now President Obama considering his record on abortion is not defensible in any form. Pfleger and laity who excuse his actions give cover to pro-abortion politicians like Pelosi, Stupak etc. To show the damage done by supposed leaders like the good Cardinal George & the supposed “Father” Pfleger, out of 136 Democrats who profess to be Catholic 127 voted for the biggest expansion of abortion in the nations history that will line the pockets of organizations that would stick a dagger in the Church’s back at any chance (i.e. Planned Parenthood).
If a Cardinal is going to give accolades to the likes of Pfleger and his disgusting ilk lets do away with RCIA altogether, just have “altar calls” at the end of Mass and anyone who raises their hand can just come on down ala The Price is Right and be baptized. Living together before marriage? no problemo. That isn’t REALLY the body and blood of our Saviour you know. Why have tabernacles taking up space?
If the Church leaders want to know why our country is in the moral sewer it is in and Mass attendence is what it is they have to only look at themselves in the mirror.
 
Those who defend this Priest remind me of those (within the Catholic Faith) who defend United Way.

United Way does some good in communities.

UW will also pay for your abortion. This one fact alone—we are not allowed to contribute therefore.

Supporting Abortion negates all the other “good.” Trumps it. Outlaws it. Call it what you want.

The Bishops were clear in their directives before this last Election.
This Priest defied the directives and supported the pro-Abortion Candidate. In public! Country-Wide, we saw it.

God Bless.
+Peace Be With You.
Love, Dawn
👍👍👍 Bingo Dawn! Let the friends of Pfleger refute that one!
 
That Father Pfleger would be within 100 miles of candidate and now President Obama considering his record on abortion is not defensible in any form.
What about the priests and nuns who live, like I do, in the president’s parish?
If a Cardinal is going to give accolades to the likes of Pfleger and his disgusting ilk lets do away with RCIA altogether, just have “altar calls” at the end of Mass and anyone who raises their hand can just come on down ala The Price is Right and be baptized.
You should write a letter to the cardinal, if you feel that strongly about it. Straighten him out.
 
As for Louis Farrakhan, I was living in Chicago’s South Side when he first sprang to national attention in the 1980s. I was startled that he was based so close to where I lived and yet I had never heard of him (which speaks to my ignorance of the situation.) Upon asking around, I was told, by someone who was active in multiple community organizations, that Farrakhan was not new. He had a great deal of respect and influence and it was impossible for anyone to be a leader in Chicago’s black community without coming to terms with him. I can’t assess the accuracy of that statement, but I think Fr. Pfleger could… far better than most of us here at CAF can.
Can we agree that Louis Farrakhan is an Anti-Semite? If so, then in order to support the Black Community we must be Anti-Semites?
 
Can we agree that Louis Farrakhan is an Anti-Semite? If so, then in order to support the Black Community we must be Anti-Semites?
Actually, no. And if you wanna know the truth, Farrakhan does not really have a lot of support among blacks. How many adherents do you think he has?

He’s more of a lightning rod for white folks than anything else.
 
Can we agree that Louis Farrakhan is an Anti-Semite? If so, then in order to support the Black Community we must be Anti-Semites?
I don’t think you have to agree with everything someone says in order to work with them. If that were true, government would be impossible. Heck, business and most of society would be impossible.
 
Dawn, it IS hard to understand why too many high profile catholics with seemingly sincere hearts simply look the other way when it comes to abortion.
I don’t find it hard to understand. The forces of evil want to destroy the Church. Liberals, Communists, homosexualists and others whose ideology and agenda demand the complete erasure of the Catholic faith seek to implement that erasure. What’s hard to understand about that?

Man cannot serve two masters. End of story.
 
As long as Cardinal George looks the other way from Pfleger’s antics, many of us will have a hard time explaining why our non-Catholic relatives and friends should take the Church seriously. And to honor him? Please Cardinal George, you can’t be serious! I live in Chicago and am well acquainted with this guy’s nonsense over the years and the Archdiocese’s looking the other way. The man openly endorsed the most pro-abortion presidential candidate to ever run, he is widely known in Chicago for his ridiculous attention-grabbing behavior, including the threat to “snuff” out a gun shop owner - please, in any other situation, this would be considered a threat - and he’s never met a camera he didn’t love. While he may indeed do some fine things at his parish and in his community, that doesn’t excuse him. And to openly embrace Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan as great men, two race-baiting anti-Semites, is appalling behavior from a priest.
 
Ah Father Pfleger… one guy I wish would take off the collar. I’ve live in the Chicago area all my life (25) and he is one priest that I do not like. He constantly bashes anyone who is for the 2nd amendment. He acts as if poverty is the greatest atrocity in the world. He says crazy things, especially when he get’s a chance to be on TV.
 
As long as Cardinal George looks the other way from Pfleger’s antics, many of us will have a hard time explaining why our non-Catholic relatives and friends should take the Church seriously. … he is widely known in Chicago for his ridiculous attention-grabbing behavior, including the threat to “snuff” out a gun shop owner - please, in any other situation, this would be considered a threat - and he’s never met a camera he didn’t love. While he may indeed do some fine things at his parish and in his community, that doesn’t excuse him.
Do you know the number of illegal weapons (and their result) which have emanated from Chuck’s Gun Shop? ** It had the most guns sold which were traced to crimes in the nation.**

bradycampaign.org/xshare/pdf/research/AGS-delears.pdf

Do you know of the priest’s work against alcoholism, economic dependence and violence on the south side? Sometimes you have to make noise to have an effect.

It is easy to talk about Pfleger from outside his parish, but think of the number of priests who do little while viewing the ills around them.

The only problem I have with Pfleger’s treatment is that he should be moved from his parish, like every other priest in the diocese, after eight years. The cardinal has failed to do this.

It’s just too easy to turn up one’s nose at Father Pfleger from a distance.
 
Actually, no. And if you wanna know the truth, Farrakhan does not really have a lot of support among blacks. How many adherents do you think he has?

He’s more of a lightning rod for white folks than anything else.
To rebut your assertion that he isn’t an Anti-Semite I present the following information from the ADL:

adl.org/PresRele/NatIsl_81/5722_81.htm

Louis Farrakhan Puts His Anti-Semitism On Full Display; Deepens Conspiracy Theories About Jewish Control

New York, NY, March 19, 2010 � Louis Farrakhan, the anti-Semitic and racist leader of the Nation of Islam, has “returned again to his old bigotry, and ramped up his virulently anti-Semitic rhetoric” in a series of recent speeches.

The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) said the recent Farrakhan lectures � rife with conspiracy theories about Jews and Israel, and Jewish control of government, finance and Hollywood � leave little doubt that “anti-Semitism and racism remain a central part of his message.”

The series of three speeches, beginning with his February 28 Saviours’ Day Speech and culminating with an address on March 14 at Mosque Maryam in Chicago, put Farrakhan’s use of anti-Semitism on full display. Farrakhan repeated accusations that some Jews belong to a “synagogue of Satan” and that Jews control the entertainment industry, exploit Black performers for their own financial gain, and were disproportionately involved in the transatlantic slave trade.

“There is no doubt that anti-Semitism and racism remain a central part of Farrakhan’s message, as well as that of the Nation of Islam,” said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director. “The large crowds he attracts demonstrate that his bigotry and hate continue to be embraced. Clearly, Minister Farrakhan has returned again to his old bigotry, and ramped up his virulently anti-Semitic rhetoric.”

Some selected examples from Farrakhan’s recent speeches include:
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� "The Federal Reserve is the synagogue of Satan, the Rockefellers, the DuPonts, the House of Rothschild, these are the people that have corrupted the entire world." -- Speech at Mosque Maryam, Chicago, 3/14/10

 

�"The Black man and woman have always been looked upon as the 'property' of White America; and particularly, members of the Jewish community.  They've always looked at you as 'belonging' to them." -- Speech at Mosque Maryam, Chicago, 3/7/10

 

� "The Jewish people have said that Hollywood is theirs. Can any of you deny that they are the masters of Hollywood, where sex, lesbianism, homosexuality and violence are promoted?"-- Speech at Mosque Maryam, Chicago, 3/7/10

 

� "Who owns the recording companies? People who call themselves 'Jews,' but they are not Jews; they are masquerading� And the so-called Jews who run those record companies� they use you, and they've sent you all over the world degrading the culture of other nations with your filth and debauchery." -- Speech at Mosque Maryam, Chicago, 3/7/10
Anti-Semitism in the Nation of Islam (NOI) goes far beyond Farrakhan and his speeches, according to ADL. The NOI’s newspaper, The Final Call, sells The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews, a significant anti-Semitic work that presents a multi-layered attack against Jews, arguing essentially that slavery in the New World was initiated by Jewish ship owners and merchants.

The NOI also sells The Synagogue of Satan, an anti-Jewish screed written by NOI member Ashahed Muhammad. The foreword to the book is written by Malik Zulu Shabazz, the anti-Semitic leader of the New Black Panther Party, who maintains a close relationship with the NOI.

In his speech on March 7, Farrakhan’s commentary focused on the idea that Jews who do not abide by God’s word are not “real Jews” adding that “real Jews would never promote that which is against the Law of God.” He cited Jews in Hollywood and the music industry as examples of Jews who are illegitimate Jews. He also accused Jews in the music industry of exploiting African-American rap artists.

Yeah I can see how you would say that he isn’t an Anti-Semite :rolleyes:
 
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