Cardinal Timothy Dolan makes a stance!

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Really? You don’t feel ANY attachment whatsoever toward others who are not family members or close friends? Do you not contribute to any charity or sometimes help a stranger in need?
 
Tell us what you know about the lasting psychological toll of housing children in institutions.

I was right, wasn’t I? You don’t really know.

At least explain to the rest of us how justice is best served by separating small children and infants from their parents, causing irreparable harm to the children, in cases such as these in which the parents do not pose a grave threat to society.
 
pnewton said:
This point is addressed in the video. Since I think it unrealistic to watch a video you do not like…
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I watched the whole video before making my post, but I obviously disagreed. I have no sympathy for these people who knowingly broke the law and are now facing the consequences whether they have children or not. The law must be enforced. Since they weren’t listening when it was enforced leniently, it must be enforced more strictly.
 
I’ve known parents who’ve been arrested and their children and my family was willing to adopt one of them, but we never thought that the parents shouldn’t have been arrested. You break the law, you face the consequences.
 
No I dont feel attachments to strangers. I have never understood why people get so emotional over the death of a celebrity for such.
 
RandomAlias said:
Tell us what you know about the lasting psychological toll of housing children in institutions.

I was right, wasn’t I? You don’t really know.

At least explain to the rest of us how justice is best served by separating small children and infants from their parents, causing irreparable harm to the children, in cases such as these in which the parents do not pose a grave threat to society.
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so how is justice served when parents are arrested and their children placed into foster care? Since the parents dont care, I could not care less about the harm it does to those children. Justice can not be served by allowing people into this country that have no right to be here. Just because Cardinal Dolan says so doesnt make it so.
 
Thats true…many U.S. citizens have broken the law and had to be separated from their kids. I feel for the kids, but its a parents job to consider their kid’s interests-first and foremost-to stay with their family and to not do anything that could jeopardize that.
 
Blockquote There are times when this can happen, of course, but in many countries/areas, the corruption is so severe that any aid does not get to the desperate. It is funneled off by the people who have the guns!
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Yes, I think the U.S. could help the common citizen in these countries-supply them with weapons. They could stage a coup like in the Cristero War. Of course then some people would complain about the U.S. intervening…but the U.S. intervened in the Cristero War too.
 
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pnewton said:
" …that to violently take a baby from its mother’s womb is wrong, and to violently take a baby from its mother’s arms on the border, that’s immoral; that’s wrong."
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Respectfully agree with you, Honorable Cardinal Dolan has taken and has made it >>>>>>>very clear his strong stance against abortion and doing so also >>>>with children being taken from their mothers arms.

One also is fully aware Cardinal Dolan was asked as invited guest on CNN and fully agree also hoping Fox News will do the same!

But we can hope and pray maybe one day>>our Honorable Cardinal Dolan will be given the opportunity>>> if he so chooses to do a press Conference, what the Nation and the whole needs right now. ❤️

Thank you again>>>>pnewton>>> for your kind reply and for correcting me!! Forgive me, and thank you in making me aware>> I was going off topic!!

Peace 🙂
 
philipl said:
Just because Cardinal Dolan says so doesnt make it so.
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Again, find one bishop that has said this policy is okay, and I will admit it is a valid moral position for a Catholic to hold, and not just another point for Americans to dissent from the Church.
 
Monica83 said:
Thats true…many U.S. citizens have broken the law and had to be separated from their kids. I feel for the kids, but its a parents job to consider their kid’s interests-first and foremost-to stay with their family and to not do anything that could jeopardize that.
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Well for at least one person posting here even this should be wrong as we need to
“At least explain to the rest of us how justice is best served by separating small children and infants from their parents, causing irreparable harm to the children, in cases such as these in which the parents do not pose a grave threat to society”.
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So you’re not a big advocate of, for example, soup kitchens and homeless shelters for the hungry and needy? Another form of welfare? At least you gave me an honest answer; I appreciate that.
 
meltzerboy2 said:
So you’re not a big advocate of, for example, soup kitchens and homeless shelters for the hungry and needy? Another form of welfare? At least you gave me an honest answer; I appreciate that.
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I have no problem with soup kitchens or homeless shelter as long as government isnt involved. BTW my wife and I give thousands to charity every year. It is just we are very selective as to which charity we give to, St Judes is my charity of choice. BTW after ACA passed I stopped giving any money to the church as my health care cost went up the amount I gave to the church.
 
OK then, so you DO care about strangers. It’s government you dislike, and I can’t blame you for that. I also contribute to St. Jude’s; they do great work.
 
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It seems your brain may be atypical in that respect, then.

As a Catholic Christian, you should be aware that how you feel is a secondary concern at best. Our Lord expects us to strive to treat everyone as a brother or sister … indeed, as if they are Him standing before us in need. Human laws do not overrule that imperative.
 
pnewton said:
Jesus started all that sort of talk. For Catholics who go to Mass every Sunday this is readily known, as it was the reading just last week.
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Respectfully was Jesus not saying Who are my mother and my Brothers?
Are they not those who accept his Spoken Word as Truth, believe in him, obey his Royal Moral Civil Laws>.Ten Commandments, Thou shall not and be doers >.Sermon on the Mount?

Yes who ever does the will of God are my brothers and sisters and mother, those who obey his Laws, is this not true also?

Those who obey his Laws>>Ten Commandments , enter his Kingdom do they not?

As written Jesus tells us, And those who do not , leave and shake the dust off your feet?

Every Kingdom >>>needs Laws>>> to maintain order>> which his >>Ten Commandments>> are given to all has instructions>>to teach us to know right from wrong, to be obeyed and lived by, for the good of all?

His Kingdom Laws>>are to be obeyed also, his Ten Commandment Laws that provide>>>>>Equality Rights, Freedom and Protection>>> for all Human beings, do they not?

With our Heavenly Father it is >>> not about gender or skin tone either, all are Commandment to live by and obey his Kingdom Laws?
We are all >>Human Beings>>We are all Brother and Sister, belonging to >>The One Human Family>>> called >>The Human Race>>are we not?
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No one owns this>> World >>but we are all to share in all the Natural Resources >>>this World has freely given and provides for all our Human needs right?
This World provides all the natural resources we will ever need >>to be able to continue to evolve>exist>> to be nourished and to be able to prosper, no one should be going with out, should they?
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Just because one is born first >>>in an open field or in a certain part of the world >>>does not mean that >>human being now>> owns that field or that part of this world, does it? >>>🤔
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Rather>>>> should we all be looking at the>>> root cause of >>why?? >>theses parents, with their precious children>>>> are being forced on foot, to flee their own homeland in great fear?

Peace just pondering is all 🤔
 
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Matthew 25:42-46
42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,

43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
 
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rose321 said:
Respectfully was Jesus not saying Who are my mother and my Brothers?
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Yes, ma’am. That’s right. From the Scripture, this can be used only to point out that our family is not just our immediate family. Only that. I used it as the first time that I can remember this concept being explained in these terms. Jesus used more intimate terms later though when he spoke of that which we do to the least as being done directly to him.

Edit - LOL I just notice someone else was thinking the same thing.
 
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