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A policy such as this would be on much firmer Christian ground.
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rose321
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Respectfully opinion only stand to be corrected also, but is it not reported in the news also that theses children being taken, some are not the children of these parents , but some of these people are claiming to be the parents of theses children also?
Children taken being used as a passage to enter in?
Woman also being used? Just confused is all. Peace
Children taken being used as a passage to enter in?
Woman also being used? Just confused is all. Peace
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rose321
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Respectfully opinion only but how many children not just in over one month (2,000 children) but also how many children have been taken>>>.during last administration (8 yrs) in total have been taken from their parents long before Pres Trump became Pres even? 
This is not something new is it?
Having photos of children, who were taken from their parents, held in cages >>>this was taking place in 2014? Yet not every reported till now, and why?
Having a photo of children held in cages, long before Trump even was Pres, not been shown and reported on in the news just lately?
Why now is there such out cry, only now being brought to attention also? Peace
This is not something new is it?
Having photos of children, who were taken from their parents, held in cages >>>this was taking place in 2014? Yet not every reported till now, and why?
Having a photo of children held in cages, long before Trump even was Pres, not been shown and reported on in the news just lately?
Why now is there such out cry, only now being brought to attention also? Peace
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There are times when this can happen, of course, but in many countries/areas, the corruption is so severe that any aid does not get to the desperate. It is funneled off by the people who have the guns!
I agree that this is a problem, and I don’t think the gov’t is in the best position to find it. I think the Church is!
Even if detained, it would seem best to leave the minors with their families. There are a great many unaccompanied minors that have been sent here who end up in the hands of sex traffickers. Sometimes the persons posing as their guardians are the traffickers.
I think they already have! They decided to bring their children while they violated the law. What happens to them, and their children are the consequences of illegal entry.
Are people detained at the border when there is no concern about this?
Yes, because there was some concern about their entry, right?
This is true, but it applies to the faithful, not to the federal government.
It costs $. Who is going to pay? It sometimes takes months to clear persons. Food, shelter, medical care, education, etc. It will cost someone.
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mrsdizzyd
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Concern is not the same as adjudicated.
Matthew 25 does not just apply to the faithful. It is a reference to the final judgement. Everyone will face that. Regardless we are talking about Catholic stances on this issue. Our leaders are speaking with clarity on this issue.
If you are already paying for separate facilities for adults and separate ones for children, then you can pay to house families. The money is already being spent.
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guanophore
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Of course not, but a person who has attempted entry without documents or procedures is suspect. We cannot afford to ignore that there are persons who are dangerous.
Every individual will be judged on how well they responded to the light that was given to them.
I am not sure about the expenses, but if children are placed in foster care it costs the govt. less.
There are vast differences in what facilities and services that are required for adults vs kids.
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A little-known fact is that there were plenty of deportations tearing families apart during the Obama administration as well. It was not reported by most of the media, one of the exceptions being Amy Goodman on “Democracy, Now!”
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Jesus, please, please do something fast to stop this madness. Oh I pray God, use you mighty hand a
to strike down the oppressors letting this happen. HEAR MY CRY OH GOD!!!
to strike down the oppressors letting this happen. HEAR MY CRY OH GOD!!!
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SaintMirror
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crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor and robbing a bank is a felony but do you I guess
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I stand with the Roman Catholic US Cardinals and Bishop’s, and the Blessed Pope!!!
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SaintMirror
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As do I; taking children away from their parents is not Christian, and whenever people justify it, I think of when the Holy Family had to flee to Egypt to escape Herod. How different the world would be if our Precious Lord had been snatched from the arms of the Blessed Mother as these children are being snatched!
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Why do you think it got less coverage during Obama’s administration
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meltzerboy2
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First, I am responding to another poster’s comment about the previous administration and providing confirmation. Second, I am not deflecting from the Trump’s administration behavior involving the families of immigrants. Third, the source I noted that pointed out the deportations during the Obama administration is a very liberal one, not prone to criticizing those more or less on the left such as Obama. Finally, this kind of information that was underreported by the media illustrates media bias, which more people, including liberals who do not support Trump, should be made aware of.
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pnewton
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That is absolutely not true, unless one is disingenuous. I understand the accusation of proof-texting, and it is valid, but only as long as the one making the accusation can explain why the context does not support the Scripture being used in such a way. That is hard to do with James.
On the other hand, if you do not accept the Bible, and you do not accept the Church, who is left to accept?
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WOW! I expect such a misdirection from anti-Catholics, dismissing everything the Church does because of the pedophilia scandal from the past. Do you know how totally contrary to logic your post is? Beside making a huge jump, it is also a false dichotomy, as he does investigate accusations of child molesting.
Still not as bad as being taken from your mother’s arm as a child.
This point is addressed in the video. Since I think it unrealistic to watch a video you do not like, the short of it is that there is much discretion in law enforcement, as any officer will tell you. If one breaks in a bank, of course they will go to jail come what may. If one has a traffic warrant, or some low misdemeanor, or civil issue (like this is), often they do not. Furthermore, sometimes a department will have a policy on when such a one is not to be arrested.
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According to the President, that would be because of Democrats… as they have been in control of the Congress and the White House these last two year?
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rose321
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Respectfully opinion only and in pondering on this serious issue facing humanity.
Are there those who are for abortion within the>> Me too movement along with others >>who are speaking out about children being taken from their parents >>but fail to greatly speak out or see the common interest, in what takes place within abortion? Children being taken in such inhumane way also?
How many millions of the innocent children are taken away from their own mother, by choice>> in a year and around the world?
Ones main source is <> on this topic which not only involves children being taken from their parents, respectfully maybe Bishop Dolan, fails to address in this interview>> where children are being taken from their family >abortion? by choice? Family? Marriage? Divorce?
Respectfully bringing to attention Pope Francis in a speech to a Family Association Sat June 16 2018 CNA and reported in other news outlets …
" the murder of children to get a peaceful life an innocent (person) is sent away. We do the same as the Nazis to maintain the purity of the race but with white gloves" unquote Pope Francis
“Do we get rid of it? France said, the murder of children to have as easy life they get rid often innocent” unquote
“Last century the whole world was scandalized by what the Nazis did to purify the race. Today we do the same thing, but with white gloves” unquote Pope Francis as reported in news outlets> CNA. June 14 2018
Question how many abortions take place in a year? 50 million? by choice?
“Frances noted that there are peoples who simply don’t want children and pointed to a couple who did not want to have kids, but who instead had 3 dogs and 2 cats” unquote Pope Francis, CNA reporting?
" Children are the greatest gift even when they are sick>>he said, must be received as they come as God sends them" unquote reported in CNA and other News outlets
Topic Cardinal Dolan makes a stance, is speaking out on the family , what about abortion also how it effects the family, they too are children taken from their parents but theses are by choice, is it not?
“On the family he noticed that in modern society one speaks of different types of a family defining the term in different ways. Family of stars, Family of trees, Family of animals, Family in the image of God is only one that of man and woman marriage is a wonderful sacrament” unquote Pope Francis reported in CNA and in other news outlet.
Interesting hearing others speaking out on children being taken from the parents not realizing the same thing is also being done when one chooses a abortion is no different is it?
Atrocity, but we do the same thing he said according to Italian media? unquote
Pondering onl.
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pnewton
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May the Holy Innocents intercede on behalf of those who are most vulnerable and innocent in this situation, to protect them from harm.
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What about? What about?
Abortion
Pedophilia
Obama
Progressives
It is known, as I just posted, as a false dichotomy, that is, the idea that somehow if we do one thing, we cannot do another, which of course, is false. Cardinal Dolan is quite vocal in his opposition to abortion. This is one of the times when the actual meaning of what Pope Francis said off the cuff should be considered. What moral principles are negotiable? You can support a politician who is actin as the President is for other reasons that are proportional, like some of the above. But this issue, this topic this thread, this moral principle, like all morality, cannot be sacrificed for the sake of another.
If your point is that some progressives that are outraged about this are hypocrites because they do worse with abortion, that goes without saying. However, if that it is acknowledged, so must the hypocrisy of the conservatives who oppose abortion on moral grounds while rejecting morality elsewhere. The Church is pro-life, not just pro-birth. There is a great video out called the Magical Birth Canal, which points illustrates that some children are only valued when they pass through this magical birth canal (worth a watch). I would say one could make another video where conservatives say, “We care about you. We care about you. We care about you.” Then, after the baby is through, “You are own your own. Go get a job already.”
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