Catholic and Democrat in US

Status
Not open for further replies.
JohnStrachan said:
I can document reliable mainstream media sources for every single claim that I made.
Click to expand...
Well of course you can. They’re Democrat house organs. Everybody knows that.

But just take one thing; the alleged “stiffing of creditors”. You apparently do not know that Trump’s “bankruptcies” were Chapter 11. In Chapter 11 a judge hears all claims that are contested and rules on which ones are legitimate and which ones are not. The Debtor has to pay them 100% or lose his interest in the company, which Trump didn’t.

But the mainstream media prefers the fake version, and some buy it because they want to support the abortion party for reasons of their own. You need to rethink this.
 
Dovekin said:
The only thing I am saying is that Kamala Harris and others see abortion rights as a part of personal liberty, privacy, or as a fundamental, inalienable right. Belonging to the KoC is a threat to that understanding not because it is a religious organization but because it has a political stance that opposes abortion rights
Click to expand...
Well then, she and those who support abortion must oppose not only members of the K of C, but members of the Catholic Church. and that often seems to be the case.
 
So there’s actually democrats that don’t believe or support abortion there are also republicans that believe and support abortion as well do research watch debates and get involved with all the elections not just presidential God bless!! Love y’all!!!✨
 
Assuming your aren’t a bankruptcy lawyer.

Not everyone is always paid in full, and this certainly was the case in some of Trump’s bankruptcies.

The contents of the plan must include a classification of claims and must specify how each class of claims will be treated under the plan. 11 U.S.C. § 1123. Creditors whose claims are “impaired,” i.e., those whose contractual rights are to be modified or who will be paid less than the full value of their claims under the plan, vote on the plan by ballot. 11 U.S.C. § 1126.

Most classes of creditors will be impaired at least to some extent in most Chapter 11 plans, as people and companies would hardly resort to the drastic step of filing for bankruptcy if they could pay off most of their debts as they came due. Still, any class of creditors whose claims will be paid in full under the plan are presumed to be in favor of the plan.
 
Last edited:
Well, there’s a bit of FAKE NEWS. Fake headline anyway. If you read the article, there were no “fines”. Some contractors filed mechanics’ liens, which is fairly standard. They were settled right about the time Trump was inaugurated for undisclosed amounts. Big deal.
farronwolf said:
Not everyone is always paid in full, and this certainly was the case in some of Trump’s bankruptcies.
Click to expand...
Most generally they are because of something called the “absolute priority rule”.
farronwolf said:
Most classes of creditors will be impaired at least to some extent in most Chapter 11 plans, as people and companies would hardly resort to the drastic step of filing for bankruptcy if they could pay off most of their debts as they came due.
Click to expand...
No. Most of the time Chapter 11 plans are to gain time or to keep an unduly advantaged creditor from grabbing everything to the detriment of everybody else. It’s too easy to tip a debtor into Chapter 7 liquidation if creditors are impaired in ways other than timing.
 
I don’t vote for any politician who’s in open mortal sin…regardless of party. Any candidate, regardless of party, who promotes issues that completely disregards our Lord’s dogmas…will not get my vote.
 
You can disagree with the bankruptcy court and folks who actually do this for a living and go on a believe what you want.

On his casinos and resorts, folks certainly lost millions.

Chapter 11 restructuring reduced the company’s debt by about $600 million and cut interest payments by $102 million annually.
 
Autumnfa said:
So there’s actually democrats that don’t believe or support abortion there are also republicans that believe and support abortion as well do research watch debates and get involved with all the elections not just presidential
Click to expand...
Halleluja! Somebody with sense!
 
Thbolt said:
We’ll see how effective the Republicans are on pro-life issues then.
Click to expand...
No. We’ll see what Roberts and Gorsuch think. We already know about the others. The Dems will all be for abortion. Alito, Kavanaugh, Thomas will be solidly prolife.
 
MagdalenaRita said:
If there is something in a particular party’s platform that goes against the Church and you vote for anyone in that party you are voting against the Church Christ gave us.
Click to expand...
I think that’s both parties then. There is no perfect candidate with all Catholic morals and political views
 
Don’t get me wrong I’m still republican for the most part but definitely vote for who ever I think will do best whoever and whatever party it is. I would consider myself more republican but also I think everyone needs to do research on candidates and be more involved not just with the president election but the house as well:sparkling_heart: thank you 🙏 God bless:sparkling_heart:
 
Autumnfa said:
everyone needs to do research on candidates
Click to expand...
There is little use as all the candidates on the democratic side speak with a single voice on most issues. The only distinction between them is the degree of extremist. Try to find one important issue on which democratic candidates have different views. Then find some that have actually opposing views.
 
I respect everyone’s opinion and would be definitely be interested to hear which parts of the democracy you or 1ke believe are in danger.

For me, it suffices that 5,500 babies have been killed since the beginning of this week in America. That’s the size of a town. By the end of the week, abortions will be higher than the population of my neighboring county. A county of people killed each week - I have to call that genocide.
 
Last edited:
Again, I won’t attempt to speak for 1ke. But for my own part, I think it’s important to remember that all lives are sacred. I am 100% pro-life and agree that abortion is a genocide. I also believe that being 100% pro-life involves protecting life from womb to tomb. Christ teaches us to leave the 99 sheep to search for the 1 who is lost. The 1, then, is just as important as the 99. While the genocide of abortion is a horror, we have largely abandoned other populations who cannot survive without assistance. The pandemic has revealed how thin and fragile the line is for many, and our communities’ safety nets have repeatedly failed. We have refugee families that are caged and in medical peril. And there hasn’t been a meaningful decrease in the number of abortions taking place, despite Trump being president. Add to this the lack of genuine listening that’s occurring from the top down and ignorance of the problems those on the margins face, and I see our fragile democracy being endangered – and with it the safety of millions.
 
gracepoole said:
The pandemic has revealed how thin and fragile the line is for many, and our communities’ safety nets have repeatedly failed. We have refugee families that are caged and in medical peril.
Click to expand...
I definitely respect that; we do have a broken refugee/immigration system. All parties (unborn babies, refugees, the poor) are suffering, and their suffering deserves to be recognized and addressed. But I do believe if we saw a county-worth of humans massacred each week in real life, that must take priority ❕
 
Last edited:
Fair enough. Just to be clear, I completely respect your views, as well. Thanks for such a positive engagement and discussion of our similar and dissimilar views.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top