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Just responding to what I read (into) the previous post.stop reading things into the few words I’ve written- Traditional is the moniker that other people have applied to these spiritualities. I’m just using a term that has been bandied about on this thread.NO judgment on my part. I find your attitude incredible antagonistic and arrogant.
I’m only defending that I have a spiritual life with varied practices and consider it offensive for people to have a tone of ‘that is not enough’.
Not at all what I’m saying.It like your saying"My faith is perfect so are My spiritualities".
I’m defending that I have a truly deep spirituality and I don’t have to be in a charismatic community to have that. The tone from others seems to be ‘I became charismatic and I did all these wonderful, spirit-growing activities’, as if to say not being charismatic, you’ll miss out on deep spirituality.
Have you been talking to my wife?Are you retrospective at all ,do you ever question if you are really as right as you believe you are?
As it happens in email and chat, I think you’ve misread my tone.
I would consider it more defensive than antagonistic.
This seems different than my perception.As far as gathering together to speak tongues together that’s not why we gather
Granted my perception could possibly be off a little for your case, but I do not believe it is otherwise.
This is what my parish is for, why do I need a separate community in my parish for this?we usually gather for Mass , or healing service or (horror of horrors) regular non tonguey prayer.
Because I don’t believe you show up at a gather to receive gifts from the Holy Spirit.Having never spoken in tongues myself I don’t understand why people get so crazed about folks speaking in tongues.
As well meaning as these ‘speakers’ are, I honestly do not believe they are speaking another language. I think it is gibberish.
The good thing about the charismatic movement is that it is one more way for non-Catholic Christians to find their way to the Church and the sacraments.
It shouldn’t. It isn’t something that existing in early times, went away, then came back about only one hundred years ago… at least en mass in a gathering.If you want to pray the Rosary in the middle of Fifth Ave in front of Tiffany’s-why would that irritate me?
ire… hostility … well … I see it as a whole community of people saying “Catholic is not enough”. Our faith is SO rich, SO deep, SO involved … why is speaking in tongues such a draw for people to join a ‘community’ apart from the parish. To me, it’s divisive.I’m truly baffled why the ire? Why the hostility?
I’ve already mentioned the timing of the protestants bringing back ‘tongues’ in large groups.What traditional devotions? Do the go all the way back to the apostles? Medieval traditional devotionals only?
Yes devotions can grow into traditions.Or can Devotions grow into a tradition. case in point- The divine Mercy Chaplet.Modern devotion in a traditional style…So if i don’t do devotions the way you believe they should be done- or choose a less traditional devotion that means I lack faith?
The Divine Mercy Chaplet is simply a prayer.
This is very different than claiming to speak in tongues.
Of course I’m no arbiter. Silly question.Are you the arbiter of who’s faith is real?
I’ve stated that I don’t believe these people that gather in large groups are actually speaking in tongues.
It is only my opinion.
I’m speaking for all Catholics that also are questioning the authenticity of the tongues being spoken in these large groups but are not of the personality to speak up. I’d be really upset to find out that people spoke in tongues during a mass, considering that to be completely inappropriate.Please don’t say you speak for the Church! That would be more arrogant still.
I’d rather not see an undercurrent of a ‘community’ within my parish as I think it detracts from the entire parish growing together.
michel