Catholic.com presidential poll

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ringil said:
Trump is going to lose as badly as Dukakis.

I think folks around here know that. He has no chance of winning the general election.

Admit it. You know Trump isn’t going to win.
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But it may not be Hillary he loses to
 
Not voting because you dont choose to vote the lesser of two evils, is a vote for evil.
 
ringil said:
Yeah sure. . . .

And I say this as someone not crazy about Clinton.

Clinton will be the next President.
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I don’t know. It still seems like anything can happen in both parties. Both Hillary and Trump lack stability, credibility and support of their own parties.
 
chero23 said:
See, but Kimberly is a staunch conservative. That goes with my point that the main (95%) of those minorities in Fox are right wing.

Have you ever watched the Five in Fox News? Juan Williams is the only democrat, and they go after him, but the man fights back pretty well.

But according to you, Obama is just a mouth full of diarrhea, you have made it seem like Trump was Jesus Christ Jr.

If what Warren said, was false, she should be taken out of her senate seat.
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But Kimberly is not the enemy as Hillary suggests all conservatives are, and I mentioned Obama and Trump together. You know one might do well to give a objective look at for example CNN.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN_controversies.
 
GaryTaylor said:
But Kimberly is not the enemy as Hillary suggests all conservatives are, and I mentioned Obama and Trump together. You know one might do well to give a objective look at for example CNN.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN_controversies.
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There’s no doubt CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC News, and Fox News all have dirt on their hands. None of these news agencies are going to give it to you 100%, we don’t have that type of journalism today. Now, we do have outstanding news anchors, I have stated I like Anderson Cooper and Wolf Blitzer from CNN, Chris Wallace, Shepard Smith and Bret Baier from Fox, from MSNBC/NBC Brian Williams and although he’s not there anymore Keith Olbermann.

There’s some really good anchors out there, some peopel who give it to us straight and are not afraid to ask the tough questions to those on the right and left.
 
Some of you may know, but during the debates…which will begin as we get closer to election…

C-SPAN covers *without *any media commentary/spin.

It was helpful to just listen to the candidates speak.

schedule C SPAN 1
c-span.org/schedule/?channel=1
 
Sy_Noe said:
Trump appears to be having difficulty cracking 50% on this site which may not bode well for him since I found polls on here from 2012 in which Romney was at 68.5% and 84%. And he still lost the Electoral College in a landslide.
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What you say is possibly true, except that most people on this site are Republicans. Unlike Romney, Trump is expecting a large vote from white, working class Democrats, who may be underrepresented here on this site.
 
I was going to hold my nose and vote for Hilary Clinton, but news just came in that the Democrats refused to oppose the TPP in their platform, so I’m thinking of doing a write-in for Bernie Sanders.

I would never ever vote for Trump, which means hatred, bigotry, and annihilation of life on earth. (His position on the TPP and abortion just simply do not ring true – he has other nefarious reasons for saying what he says on these.)

But I can’t vote for Hilary now either.
 
lynnvinc said:
I was going to hold my nose and vote for Hilary Clinton, but news just came in that the Democrats refused to oppose the TPP in their platform, so I’m thinking of doing a write-in for Bernie Sanders.

I would never ever vote for Trump, which means hatred, bigotry, and annihilation of life on earth. (His position on the TPP and abortion just simply do not ring true – he has other nefarious reasons for saying what he says on these.)

But I can’t vote for Hilary now either.
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Here is a NAFTA case of how TPP would work against the environment and humans lives, except on a much large and dangerous scale, with WTO trumping national environmental regulations and laws:

“TRADE-ENVIRONMENT: Mexico Ordered to Pay US Company 17 Million Dollars”
ipsnews.net/2000/08/trade-environment-mexico-ordered-to-pay-us-company-17-million-dollars/

There are probably also cases in which the gov could not afford or was unwilling to pay “damages” (hoped for profits over the next 20 years) and just let the people get sick and die from multinational pollution.

NAFTA was not good for the Mexican people. It was not good for the American people. It was only good for giving multinationals the license to kill people with impunity in the pursuit of profits only for them, so that the rich could get richer and the poor could die.

This is what Obama and the Republican Congress are in favor of in pushing the TPP…and it is expected to be pushed thru after the Nov elections during the lame duck period.
 
Ridgerunner said:
It sometimes amazes me that people whose principles are against virtually everything the Dem party stands for, buy into the Dem encouragement not to vote at all if they can’t vote for the “just like me without exception” party that doesn’t exist and never will.

For myself, I often find myself voting against, rather than for. If Hillary Clinton is elected, the only things that will arise “from the ashes” are a Repub party much like the one we have now, taxpayer funded abortion on demand without limitation for the remainder of my lifetime, even worse political corruption and a lot of foreign adventurism.

If we don’t oppose the promoters of abortion on demand, we’re supporting it.
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There is probably no reason to say this, because I pray that after the dust has settles that all of us will come together in some way. I just want you to know that even though I don’t believe the same way you do about this issue, that I respect the stance of “lesser of two evils”. We all must make our own decision on this matter. This time around, I don’t think it’s an easy call for ANYBODY. And so, however your own conscience guides you, and so long as in the end you follow your own conscience, which is where the Holy Spirit speaks to us, then I get it. I really do. I wish I COULD apply the lesser of…yada yada yada principle to this election. It would be a lot easier on me. I’m going to crestfallen and miserable on the day after the election either way this time around.

Conscience is key.

Also, when the election is over, and we are just subjects under one of these administrations, let’s please forgive each other for whatever choice we finally made, and start finding our way to something for the common good of all people.

I’m right with you on the frustration over abortion. I don’t plan on abandoning pro-life efforts under whomever is Caesar.
 
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