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[Maximilan_Kolbe]

Trump is the new Hitler. He is so badly detached from reality he has yet to admit that his “thousands and thousands of Muslims in New Jersey” never happened even though it’s been proven not to have occurred. Anyone that screwed up in the head and as racist, bigoted, jingoistic, and misogynistic is nothing more than a embarrassing hazard to the health and well being of the whole nation.

He quotes Mussolini and thinks that’s okay. His speech patterns and polemics are nearly identical to those of Hitler (watch anything on Hitler on the history channel!) He speaks derisively of everyone except the crowd he’s talking to and even condones and encourages violence against those who oppose and disagree with him. He is refusing to allow his tax records to be opened for the election. (What is he hiding?) He attacks his opponents and yet cries foul when they give as good as they got. Double standard much?

Granted none of this years candidates are very good, but that man will have us in a shooting war withing a month of taking office and if he is so hard on Muslims then how long will it be before he comes down on us Catholics because the Church routinely opposes the immorality and injustice that the government promotes now.

C’mon people…vote against him.

C’mon yourself. Most foreign policy experts agree Hillary is more hawkish than Trump or Sanders or Obama. People act as though a brash personality equates to failed foreign intervention after failed foreign intervention.

If you want to vote against Trump, go ahead and do so - plenty of reasons, but if your alternative is to tell folks to vote for Hillary, your arguments will fall on deaf ears.

 

[ringil]

I am thinking 3rd Party presently. I am very interested in the American Solidarity Party. I’ll be keeping an eye on who they come up with. Their platform hits a lot of marks for me. Progressive and pro-life!

solidarity-party.org/

WOW, I like these guys!

Wish we had some politicians following this platform!

 

[MichaelTDoyle]

Trump might be crazy like a fox. I doubt a truly insane person would have accomplished all he has accomplished. Sure, his utterances rankle with many, but he got billions of dollars of free media exposure out of it, and still does.

If he had raised the same amount of money and put it into the kinds of rather nasty ads Jeb Bush and his supporters put out, would it have really been better if Bush, himself, “rose above it all”, and didn’t claim to be as nasty as he really was?

Wait until we see what the Dems have to offer in their attack ads. I’ll wager they’ll be so mean and so deceptive they’ll make your toes curl, and no “later clarification” either. Trump is just open about doing what the others do while those others pretend they aren’t.

Personally, I find that refreshing.

Good point. I had not considered that, though I do wish he would think before he speaks and reduce the amount of time he contradicts himself.

 

[MichaelTDoyle]

I dont know if this is a appropriate thread to put this out there, but…

Did you know that Clinton and Trump are both Christian?

Protestant, yes, but christian none the less. Though the same could be said about obama, but im not sure.

Could we pray that they can hear the voice of God and grow closer to him? Would that help or am I being silly again?

Not silly at all.

 

[mary_bobo]

It is disgusting that after all the really good contenders we had in the beginning, Donald Trump is turning out to be the best America has to offer as leader of the Free World. Mrs. Clinton, of course, will flush us the rest of the way down in her first 6mos. I have voted for the third party candidate in the past and regretted it, because it gave the election to the worst of the worst running. This time, I am going to hold my nose, vote for The Donald and wear my rosary beads out begging our Dear Lord to save America from herself.

I’m with you. And what the folks who are going to vote third party, I have to wonder just what they hope to accomplish by that. That candidate can not be elected, and history has shown us that a vote like that only helps the Dems. Perhaps they really prefer Hillary.

 

[Arizona_Mike]

You took the words right out of my mouth. There used to be this old daytime comedy called Green Acres back in the 70s. There was one sane guy in this town, [Mr. Douglas] and everyone and everything else was crazy. That is they way I feel sometimes. I think “why am I the only person who see that these people are not right?”

O/T, but I used to watch that show and get really frustrated because I empathized so with Oliver (Eddie Albert).

There were a couple of serious war heroes on that show, BTW - Eddie Albert, who already had some movies under his belt and a Hollywood contract and was too old to be drafted, enlisted at age 34 in the Navy during WWII. He could have worked safely in the USO, but instead volunteered to command a landing craft at the invasion of Tarawa. As Japanese fire decimated the Marine attackers he dropped off on the shore and left nearly a hundred wounded in the waist-deep water, he repeatedly returned under heavy fire to pull wounded Marines to safety, saving more than 40 marines from certain death. He earned the Bronze Star. Before the war, and before his film career, Albert had toured Mexico as a clown and high-wire artist with the Escalante Brothers Circus, but secretly worked for U.S. Army intelligence, photographing German U-boats in Mexican harbors

Alvy Moore, who played county farm agent Hank Kimball on the show (who seemed unable to finish a sentence without contradicting himself), was a Marine who fought at Iwo Jima.

 

[baliano]

I’m with you. And what the folks who are going to vote third party, I have to wonder just what they hope to accomplish by that. That candidate can not be elected, and history has shown us that a vote like that only helps the Dems. Perhaps they really prefer Hillary.

There is no “hope to accomplish”, I will vote exactly as my Catholic teaching demands I do; No lying, pro-abortion candidates. If the rest of the Christian “Sheeple” did likewise we would toss both parties out on their ears.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

I am in the same strange place. I will probably vote for Trump but if it is clear that the electoral college votes for Texas are not in play, I may vote third party to . Austin Peterson (L) is interesting. He’s a Libertarian in the Ron Paul, pro-life, mold.

Beside the fact the the official Libertarian Party Platform is for government to have nothing to do with abortion decisions, here is what Austin Peterson has on his official website:

Encourage a culture of life, and adoption, and educate Americans about the “consistent pro-life ethic,” which also means abolishing the death penalty.
This is truly Libertarian, but it is not exactly forcibly anti-abortion. It looks like abortion would be “discouraged” through education and adoption. This is quite different from Ron Paul, who is actually anti-abortion, and no longer part of the Libertarian Party. So I wonder if seeing Peterson as a kind of Ron Paul isn’t a bit of wishful thinking? Do you have any recent quotes by Peterson that would indicate he would actually use the force of law to oppose abortion, in opposition to his own party’s platform?

 

[Padres1969]

I dont know if this is a appropriate thread to put this out there, but…

Did you know that Clinton and Trump are both Christian?

Protestant, yes, but christian none the less. **Though the same could be said about obama, but im not sure. **

Could we pray that they can hear the voice of God and grow closer to him? Would that help or am I being silly again?

Seven years on and statements like this are still being made.

 

[Padres1969]

My state will surely go for Trump, which gives me the freedom to look for somebody other than Trump or Clinton in an attempt to send a message.

I’m in the same boat. My state is going Clinton for sure (or Sanders if he’s the Democrat). So I’m free to find another candidate to vote for as a protest. Just not sure if there’s any protest candidates worth voting for either.

 

[Stylteralmaldo]

The Supreme Court is the only real reason to vote for Trump–and that is big enough. I can’t imagine he’d make the same choices Hillary would.

I can imagine he’d make choices just as bad. Trump may be worse from a Supreme Court nominee standpoint. Trump is both a fiscal and social liberal. It stands to reason that he would appoint similar justices that fits his fiscal and socially liberal agenda.

A liberal justice appointed by Clinton would more likely be blocked by the Republicans than a liberal justice appointed by Trump.

 

[Convert_in_99]

I’m with you. And what the folks who are going to vote third party, I have to wonder just what they hope to accomplish by that. That candidate can not be elected, and history has shown us that a vote like that only helps the Dems. Perhaps they really prefer Hillary.

Nope. We just dislike BOTH Hillary and Trump! We will not give either our vote no matter what!

 

[Convert_in_99]

There is no “hope to accomplish”, I will vote exactly as my Catholic teaching demands I do; No lying, pro-abortion candidates. If the rest of the Christian “Sheeple” did likewise we would toss both parties out on their ears.

I love your word “sheeple”

I agree with you!

 

[irishpatrick]

I can imagine he’d make choices just as bad. Trump may be worse from a Supreme Court nominee standpoint. Trump is both a fiscal and social liberal. It stands to reason that he would appoint similar justices that fits his fiscal and socially liberal agenda.

A liberal justice appointed by Clinton would more likely be blocked by the Republicans than a liberal justice appointed by Trump.

You might be correct, though Trump says he will appoint conservative judges.

 

[Convert_in_99]

I can see why, I’ve never seen this thing you call a “Catholic, Pro Life, Socialist”…

Actually you have!

Pope Francis! :heaven:

 

[irishpatrick]

There is no “hope to accomplish”, I will vote exactly as my Catholic teaching demands I do; No lying, pro-abortion candidates. If the rest of the Christian “Sheeple” did likewise we would toss both parties out on their ears.

You know, it strikes me that we should of how the Christians lived during the first few centuries in Rome. They lived among Pagans and they endured living in a culture that was not unlike our own. No matter who wins, the nation will continue its drive toward a deepening Paganism…

 

[Stylteralmaldo]

You might be correct, though Trump says he will appoint conservative judges.

He has said a lot of things that he later did a 180 on. I need more from him before I will commit. The early prognosis after he sealed the nomination is not promising.

 

[irishpatrick]

He has said a lot of things that he later did a 180 on. I need more from him before I will commit. The early prognosis after he sealed the nomination is not promising.

I agree and I think that’s why Ryan cannot yet commit.

 

[Corki]

Beside the fact the the official Libertarian Party Platform is for government to have nothing to do with abortion decisions, here is what Austin Peterson has on his official website:

Encourage a culture of life, and adoption, and educate Americans about the “consistent pro-life ethic,” which also means abolishing the death penalty.
This is truly Libertarian, but it is not exactly forcibly anti-abortion. It looks like abortion would be “discouraged” through education and adoption. This is quite different from Ron Paul, who is actually anti-abortion, and no longer part of the Libertarian Party. So I wonder if seeing Peterson as a kind of Ron Paul isn’t a bit of wishful thinking? ** Do you have any recent quotes by Peterson that would indicate he would actually use the force of law to oppose abortion, in opposition to his own party’s platform?**

No, I don’t and I don’t think that would be consistent with the Libertarian party “way”. Hey, this is all new to me. I am just trying to work out what to do with Trump as the nominee and Hillary (or Sanders) being unthinkable. Ron Paul was my Congressman here in Texas, so it probably IS wishful thinking to try to see some of his values in others.

 

[BernadetteM]

From all the posts I have read, it appears you all know each of the candidates personally.

Until this election I didn’t really know anything about how a person is elected president, except to vote at the general election, only found out that no ones vote counts, only the delegates. Than I happened to find out that the owner of FOX is actually a Democrat or sometimes he votes Republican, now I understand the hatred FOX now is promoting. He backed Rubio at first and now Trump. Before he backed Hillary last time she ran. He also has given financial backing to both parties.

I wish people would hold judgment until the person has proven they are not what they claim. We must remember that only a handful of Republican Senators and Congressmen who ran in their last election promised to stop Obama Care, reduce the budget etc. and it appears they all lied and went right along with Obama. We can’t make judgments until we actually see what the new President does.

Also I found it a little odd that some posters say they are converts, however, have judged Trump who says he has changed his view of abortion, which to me is a conversion, think we should accept their word that they have really converted, but not Trumps. Of course I do accept their word, but feel we shouldn’t doubt Trump’s word, we all evolve, just as I have now that I understand the political game and that is what I call it.

Lets just trust that America will still be blessed by God although the country has turned its back on Him and He will put in place the best candidate to be out President.

God Bless

Bernadette