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GaryTaylor
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As I thought you have no idea what your talking about.
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Expatreprocedit
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I didn’t think you would have an answer.As I thought you have no idea what your talking about.
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GaryTaylor
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You never asked a question but typed a bunch of meaningless gibberish. You have no point, where? Where do you have a point in this trash…I didn’t think you would have an answer.
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_Abyssinia
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Don’t you think there is more of a chance of Trump nominating an “anti-Roe justice” than Hillary Clinton?
Check this excerpt out:
“Justice requires that the law protect the fundamental rights of every member of the human family; it cannot justly permit lethal violence against innocent persons. Thank God abolitionists like William Wilberforce and civil-rights crusaders like Martin Luther King Jr. did not content themselves with trying to “change hearts” but instead successfully sought to change the law to right tremendous wrongs.
Laws cannot stop all abortions, just as they cannot stop all cases of child abuse; but they clearly do influence the incidence of abortion. The number of abortions in the United States shot upward following nationwide legalization in 1973, and legal limits, as I note above, have helped reduce the total in the years since. Laws shape behavior.”
lifenews.com/2012/10/29/refuting-seven-pro-life-arguments-for-supporting-obama/
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GaryTaylor
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The conversation started and ended with a strawman.
“slightly” just the Texas ruling would do that.
lifenews.com/2016/06/06/supreme-court-to-decide-thursday-on-texas-law-saving-tens-of-thousands-of-babies-from-abortion/
There was NO attempt to converse above, none.
And ended on one, the only intention was to uncharitably put words in others mouths and make grand sweeping assumptions what was being thought as if a mind reading degree was now offered.
The rest was meaningless talk.
“slightly” just the Texas ruling would do that.lifenews.com/2016/06/06/supreme-court-to-decide-thursday-on-texas-law-saving-tens-of-thousands-of-babies-from-abortion/
There was NO attempt to converse above, none.
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Expatreprocedit
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I agree, you made no attempt to converse. You are the one who said Trump would “stop abortion”; if that’s a straw man, it is of your own making.The conversation started and ended with a strawman.
And ended on one, the only intention was to uncharitably put words in others mouths and make grand sweeping assumptions what was being thought as if a mind reading degree was now offered.
The rest was meaningless talk.
lifenews.com/2016/06/06/supreme-court-to-decide-thursday-on-texas-law-saving-tens-of-thousands-of-babies-from-abortion/
There was NO attempt to converse above, none.
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Expatreprocedit
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Yes, of course there is much more of a chance of Trump nominating an “antiRoe” justice, with Clinton there is no chance of that. There are just many more steps involved in actually reducing or eliminating abortion, which I THOUGHT was the goal. Abortion does not happen in a societal vacuum, yet so many professed “pro-lifers” talk as if it does, as if the only important thing is vote for a “R”.
Yes, outlawing Roe v. Wade would be a good thing, and yes having laws against abortion would be a good thing. Ultimately, though, it is necessary to change hearts.
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GaryTaylor
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Its not what I said and I’m sorry you introduced a straw man of your imagination. Don’t put words in my mouth. You don’t speak for me. If you interpreted something I said as such you were just wrong.
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Expatreprocedit
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You said in post #831 on this thread:
Trump does have the probability to stop abortion just by supreme court selection!!
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Tomdstone
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I don’t think that Trump would stop abortion, but i am sure that Hillary would do everything possible to support a woman’s right to abort. Actually, after talking about women’s reproductive rights, she said that she believes that religious beliefs have to be changed.
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Expatreprocedit
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Yes, I am sure she would too. I never denied that. Pro-choicers are one of her biggest constituencies.
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Theo520
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GaryTaylor
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Ah “probability to stop abortion” and without elaboration, but thats not what you cut and pasted or in fact what was stated, so you were wrong?
Like I said with your cut and paste and own thinking injected in what you think I said, you have a strawman and were wrong quite simply. Now do you need the last word, in my mind reading I have a feeling thats a “probability” also.
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pnewton
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I remember the one statement that stereotyped Mexicans. This may not meet your criteria of the definition, but it meets mine. I am not “PC, hypersensitive left”, Unless you consider me to be based on this opinion, which of course, is circular reasoning.
This is not to say he is a racist. That would be placing too much judgment from one single statement. I am just saying he has given reason of some to doubt him about this.
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Expatreprocedit
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Hey, if you want to hang your hat on the word “probably” go ahead.
Your use of “probably” doesn’t make your statement any less ridiculous. No, Donald Trump cannot “probably stop abortion” by his supreme court nominations, for all the reasons I gave.
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stevegravy
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Mexico is a country not a race
What one statement did he make that stereotyped all Mexicans? Also, keep in mind that while stereotypes can be negative, they do not equal racism.
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Expatreprocedit
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“Mexicans” are a nationality, but the word can also be used to describe an ethnicity, since most Mexicans are not of pure Spanish or native blood, but a mixture, and “Mexicans” is more commonly used than “mestizo”.
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Ridgerunner
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Mexican “race” (more properly “ethnic”) relations are very complicated and, to us, quite strange. There are those, largely in central Mexico, who consider themselves “Aztecs” even though most aren’t. Then there are the Mayans of southern Mexico, more akin to Guatemalans than most other Mexicans, and who often don’t speak Spanish at all. Then there are distinctions between the “all Spanish Crillos”, the mixed “Mestizos” and the all-Indian “Indios”. Some “Indios” (other than Mayans) speak Indian languages rather than Spanish. There are also “Yaqis” who are mostly Indians, but are thought of as “black” even though they aren’t. Actual African-descended people are in a class by themselves.
Then there are divisions by region that have consequences in the relations among Mexicans.
“La Raza” is generally thought of as composed of “Mestizos”, or people of mixed Spanish and Indian ancestry; being a sort of “race” all their own. But it also includes some very “white” people.
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Expatreprocedit
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There was his statement in the first GOP debate that Mexico “was not sending their best” but rather “rapists” and “criminals” and “people with problems” to the US. While anyone would agree that there are some Mexican immigrants that fit that description, Trump made, in my view, an overgeneralization about Mexicans. I guess if you want to call that an unjustified negative stereotype about Mexican immigrants rather than racism, speaking for myself I won’t argue. Either way, it doesn’t reflect well on Trump in my view. Most conservatives would agree you can express concern about illegal immigration from Mexico without that negative stereotype.
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