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Cider
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Same old, same old. Dems claim a 3rd party vote is a vote for the Republican and Repubs claim a 3rd party vote is a vote for Dems. Both cannot be correct. You guys need to get a better play book.
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Ridgerunner
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Depends on the nature of the candidate, though, doesn’t it?
If, say, Elizabeth Warren ran third party, it would not harm Trump but would harm Clinton.
If, say, Cruz ran third party, it would harm Trump but not Clinton.
When otherwise conservative or prolife people vote third party, it definitely aids the pro-abortionist, Clinton, just as a vote for a very pro-abortion third party candidate like Biden would aid Trump…
So, I don’t think there is anything wrong with prolife people telling other prolife people that voting third party is an aid to the abortion candidate, because it’s true.
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jediliz
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Rick Santorum supported blue collar workers and was as conservative and Catholic as you can get…but very few Catholics supported him. And no, he was not liberal.If being pro-life was an important part of the GOP platform, then this candidate wouldn’t be the candidate.
If Pope Francis had an American cousin named George who was running for president, and shared all the Catholic values the Pope has, the GOP wouldn’t vote for him, because they would consider him too liberal. I fear many Catholics wouldn’t vote for him because of “prudential judgement”
The Democrats wouldn’t vote for him because he was too conservative.
I won’t be voting for Trump or Hillary. My state is not at all a swing state.
If Hillary becomes president, maybe it will be a wake-up call to those who thought Trump would be the savior of the unborn. And I also fear that if Trump becomes president, it will be a wake up call as well.
God help us.
The thing is, this election is CRITICAL for future supreme court cases, especially those that affect the pro life movement - like the forcing of paying for contraceptives. Who knows what will come up next! Maybe the culture of death will try to push for legalized assisted suicide in all 50 states. Or worse - make it mandatory that the vulnerable elderly get “end of life counseling” that basically pushes euthanasia. Or push population control.
We can’t throw our votes away. Yes, Donald Trump is a HORRIBLE choice, but HILARY is much much worse!
I wish the GOP would have been strong enough to support Rick Santorum or Bobby Jindal instead…both candidates would have been a much better choice than Donald…but neither would have the chance to prevent a 2nd Clinton becoming president.
We can’t afford for Hilary to be elected - she wants to expand ABORTION…pushing back any successes the pro life movement has made. Who knows what she could do - she could force pro life pregnancy centers to shut down.I for one am tired of the Obama Administration and Clinton would just be Obama in a woman’s pant suit. we can’t afford that - not for our national security, not for our future.
LeafByNiggle
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Every election is the most critical election in the history of the world - until the next one.
Voting for a 3rd party candidate is not throwing your vote away. It has the practical effect of raising the power and popularity of the party and/or the person, so that such a person will have a chance in a future election. The only time it would be throwing away your vote is if you were convinced that this is the last election there will ever be.
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Sy_Noe
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Kinda depends on who the voter would vote for if they voted between the 2 majors and where one lives. Take myself. I voted for Bernie and wouldn’t vote for Donald Trump for dog catcher so like Bernie, I certainly don’t want this Trump character to ever get near the Oval Office. So if I voted for Jill Stein when I would otherwise vote for Hillary over Trump, then I would be helping Trump by not voting for Hillary. But then I’ve always lived in swing states.
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Markie_Boy
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We first need church leaders that don’t play moral mish-mash, and vote for pro-choice candidates.
When they voted for Obama once it could be an error or let’s-see thing, but when they did it twice…???
If leaders in the Church are not on the right page, and bringing the message, that’s a huge hurdle we need to overcome. I am part of a parish that is way to liberal for my comfort, and it’s not easy. I see parish members that swing this way or that voting, and could probably be formed by good teaching.
Do I think Trump is exactly what I’d like in a candidate - not exactly - but if you follow the “Vote like a Catholic” audio on this site, you see he is the only choice this time.
When they voted for Obama once it could be an error or let’s-see thing, but when they did it twice…???
If leaders in the Church are not on the right page, and bringing the message, that’s a huge hurdle we need to overcome. I am part of a parish that is way to liberal for my comfort, and it’s not easy. I see parish members that swing this way or that voting, and could probably be formed by good teaching.
Do I think Trump is exactly what I’d like in a candidate - not exactly - but if you follow the “Vote like a Catholic” audio on this site, you see he is the only choice this time.
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anon67074017
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I think Trump will be the savior of America if he gets elected.
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Ridgerunner
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What happened to Ross Perot after his third party loss? Nothing. And that’s the way it will be this time for third party candidates as well.
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GaryTaylor
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Maybe Hillary will weigh in on the good news…
lifenews.com/2016/05/20/united-methodist-church-quits-pro-abortion-coalition-after-years-of-promoting-abortion/
lifenews.com/2016/05/20/united-methodist-church-quits-pro-abortion-coalition-after-years-of-promoting-abortion/
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holyreyes
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Presidential polls being conducted here are usually inaccurate and always get it wrong!
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jediliz
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Here is a big reason NEVER to vote Democrat if you value the life growing in the womb
lifenews.com/2016/06/28/democratic-party-platform-calls-for-forcing-americans-to-pay-for-abortions/
lifenews.com/2016/06/28/democratic-party-platform-calls-for-forcing-americans-to-pay-for-abortions/
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holyreyes
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CATHOLIC DEMOCRATS LOVE THE UNBORN. And why would it be up to the Catholic Democrats since their number is only a small percentage among the pool of voters? ABORTION WILL REMAIN LEGAL IN THIS COUNTRY UNTIL CAPITALISM IS ALIVE, WHERE EVERYTHING AND ANYONE IS FREE TO BE CAPITALIZED ON…
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Darryl1958
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Catholic Democrats are the difference that decides the abortion issue.
If Catholics voted according to their teaching on abortion, the issue would be decided in favor of Catholic teaching.
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Crossbones
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Of course, the American bishops put out Forming Consciences for Faithful Citizenship so that American Catholics can understand the issues with a Church perspective and determine how they should vote. In the guide, it places a great emphasis on abortion and other intrinsic evils such as racism, same-sex marriage, torture and targeting noncombatants. I would encourage all Catholics to read this document for themselves instead of depending on the personal interpretation of Church teaching that many here may offer.
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Crossbones
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That explains why all the state polls that Quinnipiac were closer than one would expect based on the national polls stating that Clinton was up 5-6%.
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GaryTaylor
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2 percent error, looks like a tie. 
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FollowChrist34
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I think the polls will vary widely from now until November, as events occur. I also think in the end they could prove untrustworthy, by which I mean they will say one thing (or most will) and the result will be different. The election is a toss up.
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Crossbones
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Well, I don’t think there is much doubt that the polls suggest Clinton is winning handily at the moment, but I do agree that a lot can change between now and November.
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GaryTaylor
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Toss up and anyones to lose. Another tough week for Hillary, Warren, I don’t see how that helped Hillary. The polls don’t show it.
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