Catholic.com presidential poll

[FollowChrist34]

Toss up and anyones to lose. Another tough week for Hillary, Warren, I don’t see how that helped Hillary. The polls don’t show it.

I predict Trump may get a bump from Brexit and Istanbul. Also the fact that he seems to be calming down a bit overall and dare I say looking “more presidential,” if his latest post terrorist attack tweet is anything to go by.

I think this will go down to the wire, the way it always does. After such a horrible month or so for Trump, there is some light dawning there. But he’ll screw it up some way, you just know it is coming… I think both sides are quite thankful their opponent is so horrible; lowers the bar.

 

[Expatreprocedit]

then don’t complain when… your right to own a gun is even more restricted. because voting 3rd party (think Ross Perot in 1992) gives HILARY the presidency.

I don’t own a gun, and protecting the “right” of others to own semiautomatic weapons does not interest me in the least.

 

[Crossbones]

I predict Trump may get a bump from Brexit and Istanbul. Also the fact that he seems to be calming down a bit overall and dare I say looking “more presidential,” if his latest post terrorist attack tweet is anything to go by.

I think this will go down to the wire, the way it always does. After such a horrible month or so for Trump, there is some light dawning there. But he’ll screw it up some way, you just know it is coming… I think both sides are quite thankful their opponent is so horrible; lowers the bar.

Maybe. Sometimes, people who are scared of terrorists seem to react well to tough talk about torture and such and lean Republican on that. Of course, this ignores the fact that the worst terrorist attack on the US occurred under a Republican President. As Trump is fond of saying, President Bush did not keep us safe.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Maybe. Sometimes, people who are scared of terrorists seem to react well to tough talk about torture and such and lean Republican on that. Of course, this ignores the fact that the worst terrorist attack on the US occurred under a Republican President. As Trump is fond of saying, President Bush did not keep us safe.

I don’t think anybody doubts that one of the reasons for the intelligence failure on 911 were the rules of separation Clinton put in place between the CIA and the FBI. Should Bush have known about it in his first year in office? One can argue that he should have and that he should have reversed it. But he certainly didn’t create the intelligence rift, and did undo it after 911.

 

[Crossbones]

I don’t think anybody doubts that one of the reasons for the intelligence failure on 911 were the rules of separation Clinton put in place between the CIA and the FBI. Should Bush have known about it in his first year in office? One can argue that he should have and that he should have reversed it. But he certainly didn’t create the intelligence rift, and did undo it after 911.

I’m not surprised that you would blame it on Clinton.

 

[Ridgerunner]

I’m not surprised that you would blame it on Clinton.

It isn’t a matter of “blame”. It’s a matter of why intelligence failed. There is no question that the “wall” between the CIA and the FBI prevented intelligence from going from the former to the latter. Everybody knows that, and everybody knows it was Clinton who put the “wall” in place. It was later removed, at least in part.

 

[Good_Tidings]

It isn’t a matter of “blame”. It’s a matter of why intelligence failed. There is no question that the “wall” between the CIA and the FBI prevented intelligence from going from the former to the latter. Everybody knows that, and everybody knows it was Clinton who put the “wall” in place. It was later removed, at least in part.

I guess “everyone” knows about the intelligence report dated August 6, too.

 

[Convert_in_99]

I think Trump will be the savior of America if he gets elected.

You have got to be kidding me. :dts: We have one Savior, Jesus Christ.

 

[GaryTaylor]

At minimal we have impropriety and the very issue with this party.

The unannounced meeting, which comes as Lynch’s Justice Department is investigating the handling of classified information on Hillary Clinton’s private email server, came to light only when Phoenix’s ABC15 TV station asked Lynch about it during a press conference.
The Obama appointee told the TV station that she and Clinton did not discuss the investigation or any other government business. Instead, she says they talked about Clinton’s grandchildren and golf.

dailycaller.com/2016/06/29/bill-clinton-loretta-lynch-meet-on-airplane-in-phoenix-video/

Recusal!

 

[anon67074017]

You have got to be kidding me. :dts: We have one Savior, Jesus Christ.

Jesus is the universal Savior. Nations can have their own saviors.

 

[Crossbones]

I guess “everyone” knows about the intelligence report dated August 6, too.

It’s funny that Trump practically blames Bush for what happened on the campaign trail, win the Republican nomination and yet there are those who still manage a way to blame Clinton.

 

[Good_Tidings]

It’s funny that Trump practically blames Bush for what happened on the campaign trail, win the Republican nomination and yet there are those who still manage a way to blame Clinton.

Blaming Clinton is an anomaly. i don’t understand why the Trump apologists don’t remember
what Trump actually said. It hasn’t been so long since he made these statements.

 

[Crossbones]

Blaming Clinton is an anomaly. i don’t understand why the Trump apologists don’t remember
what Trump actually said. It hasn’t been so long since he made these statements.

I think they remember, but they just think he was misinterpreted, even though almost any person without a political slant would interpret it how he said it. Take Trump’s support of torture or his targeting of noncombatants or his racist comments about Judge Curiel. They are clearcut, but then the excuse mongering kicks in and “he didn’t mean what he said, he really meant this.”

 

[Good_Tidings]

I think they remember, but they just think he was misinterpreted, even though almost any person without a political slant would interpret it how he said it. Take Trump’s support of torture or his targeting of noncombatants or his racist comments about Judge Curiel. They are clearcut, but then the excuse mongering kicks in and “he didn’t mean what he said, he really meant this.”

It’s getting old, IMHO. The fact the he doesn’t vomit on his shoes is becoming presidential;

 

[Kit15]

If being pro-life was an important part of the GOP platform, then this candidate wouldn’t be the candidate.

If Pope Francis had an American cousin named George who was running for president, and shared all the Catholic values the Pope has, the GOP wouldn’t vote for him, because they would consider him too liberal. I fear many Catholics wouldn’t vote for him because of “prudential judgement”

The Democrats wouldn’t vote for him because he was too conservative.

I won’t be voting for Trump or Hillary. My state is not at all a swing state.

If Hillary becomes president, maybe it will be a wake-up call to those who thought Trump would be the savior of the unborn. And I also fear that if Trump becomes president, it will be a wake up call as well.

God help us.

God help us indeed. I’m anticipating that whoever wins the election will be a one term presidency and the nation will mostly flee this cycle’s winner to the opposing party for the following cycle, who could then go on to win a second term.

 

[Darryl1958]

It isn’t a matter of “blame”. It’s a matter of why intelligence failed. There is no question that the “wall” between the CIA and the FBI prevented intelligence from going from the former to the latter. Everybody knows that, and everybody knows it was Clinton who put the “wall” in place. It was later removed, at least in part.

Intelligence didn’t fail.
Everyone knew exactly what was going down, long before it went down.

Benghazi was a sucide mission without the largest miliatry in the world to back it up. Boots on the ground to protect the Americans there would not have supported the narrative that the war on terror. have been won.

Meanwhile there was an election to win, and Clinton and Obama did not want the story to be anything other than the war on terror was won.
Ergo, blame it all on an internet video.

Blame it all on free speech. .

The Supreme Court is now in place where free speech will no longer be a problem too. It is no illegal to be a climate change denier, or whatever else HRC doesn’t want.

Not with a bang, but with a whimper.

There goes America too. 100 years later and America is as lost as Europe ever was, post WWI.

 

[Crossbones]

Intelligence didn’t fail.
Everyone knew exactly what was going down, long before it went down.

Benghazi was a sucide mission without the largest miliatry in the world to back it up. Boots on the ground to protect the Americans there would not have supported the narrative that the war on terror. have been won.

Meanwhile there was an election to win, and Clinton and Obama did not want the story to be anything other than the war on terror was won.
Ergo, blame it all on an internet video.

Blame it all on free speech. .

The Supreme Court is now in place where free speech will no longer be a problem too. It is no illegal to be a climate change denier, or whatever else HRC doesn’t want.

Not with a bang, but with a whimper.

There goes America too. 100 years later and America is as lost as Europe ever was, post WWI.

Did the Supreme Court recently make it illegal to be a climate change denier and I missed it? It’s that season where the rulings come fast. There should be a thread on that.

 

[Ridgerunner]

I think they remember, but they just think he was misinterpreted, even though almost any person without a political slant would interpret it how he said it. Take Trump’s support of torture or his targeting of noncombatants or his racist comments about Judge Curiel. They are clearcut, but then the excuse mongering kicks in and “he didn’t mean what he said, he really meant this.”

Define torture so we can know what you think he meant by it.

He didn’t actually make a racist comment about Curiel. He mentioned that Curiel was …he believed, Mexican. He immediately followed it with “which is fine”. he said nothing negative about Curiel’s heritage.

Not that it wasn’t a terrible gaffe. It was, and he is certainly paying the price for it, just as anyone does who can be painted “racist” for so much as mentioning ethnic origin.

Just for the record, Curiel is a Clinton supporter and contributor, and a member of a race-based lawyer’s organization that, among other things, raises money for scholarships for illegal immigrants. Unlike what most judges would do, he released the plaintiffs’ testimony to the public (meaning the Dem party) in the middle of an election. Most judges wouldn’t do that because it biases a jury pool. But Curiel did. Now, did he do that because of Trump’s stand on immigration or out of a motivation to help Hillary Clinton or just what? He certainly didn’t do it because it’s the normal practice of judges in a highly-publicized case. It isn’t. And, of course, the plaintiff in the suit against Trump wanted to drop the suit. Curiel wouldn’t allow that, and designated another plaintiff to carry it forward against Trump.

Was Trump’s faltering (then abandoned) attempt to explain why he thought Curiel was unfair presidential? No, not at all. Was it wise and well thought out? No. Would most people resent what Curiel did and think of it as biased if he did it to them? Absolutely.

Now, go ahead and say this proves you were right in saying someone would defend what you think is indefensible.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Intelligence didn’t fail.
Everyone knew exactly what was going down, long before it went down.

Benghazi was a sucide mission without the largest miliatry in the world to back it up. Boots on the ground to protect the Americans there would not have supported the narrative that the war on terror. have been won.

Meanwhile there was an election to win, and Clinton and Obama did not want the story to be anything other than the war on terror was won.
Ergo, blame it all on an internet video.

Blame it all on free speech. .

The Supreme Court is now in place where free speech will no longer be a problem too. It is no illegal to be a climate change denier, or whatever else HRC doesn’t want.

Not with a bang, but with a whimper.

There goes America too. 100 years later and America is as lost as Europe ever was, post WWI.

I was talking about the 911 intelligence failure. I do not believe there was an intelligence failure regarding Benghazi.

 

[holyreyes]

Catholic Democrats are the difference that decides the abortion issue.
If Catholics voted according to their teaching on abortion, the issue would be decided in favor of Catholic teaching.

Politically speaking, progressives would sound more authentic and believable prolifers if they were to become against abortion since the living is as important as the unborn by their stance on healthcare, education, increasing minimum wage, maternity leave, immigration, gun control, capital punishment, the environment, etc… People that only focus solely on abortion are not Pro-lifers but rather Pro-birthers.

In addition, we’ve had conservative scotus for more than 4 decades, numerous conservative presidents in the past and conservative House and Senate currently but abortion is still leagal. So, this politics in abortion is nothing but a conservative selling point. Until Pro-birthers really become Prolifers by supporting those issues mentioned above and I see the courage the GOP finally dumps the orange clown and the Tea Party, I will keep voting for the Democratic Party. The GOP needs to clean its house…