Catholic gal dating Muslim Man

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Malgosia, thank you for your points. I honestly mean that.
Was the man that you married straight up from Iran?

because I’m wondering if there’s a difference between Muslims straight from strict Muslim countries and Muslims from liberal/westernized countries. A difference in beliefs and whatnot, sort of how American Catholics differ from Catholics around the world.

I’ve seen it in my other Muslim friends. Ones from conservative countries have very different belief systems than ones that live in the USA.

Not to demean your points, which I still think are very valid, but the guy I’m dating is straight up from the USA, and is very influenced by western doctrines and principles and makes steps to isolate himself from what he calls the “brown community of Muslims”. There would be a difference in dating him than say if he immigrated straight from Pakistan.He’s US born and bred.

I know far too many horror stories about the Iranian men that immigrated to the USA somewhere around the 70s or so that took advantage of the girls and what happened to them as they were dragged back to the mother country after unwisely marrying them.
 
Happynoodlecat, The only thing i don’t understand is that you said it is forbidden in Muslim to force someone into another Religion. Am I understanding you correctly. Well if that is true and I know of people who even told me that if you are Muslim and want to convert to Catholic they will kill you. Your own brother and sisters can kill you, It is legal in that country. Now I am sure you also have heard this. It is all over the news everyday. Tons and tons of Muslims want to turn to Catholic but cant because they will die if they are caught. Someone is not telling you the truth. No offense you had better open your eyes. If not you can get stuck in that country and no one can even help you. They also have many wives, Now how does that tie into the Catholic Faith, and how will you work that one out when you are breaking one of the ten commandments.
 
Well thank you all to have posted to my thread. First off, I want to say that I’m not star-struck about Islam. I know that it’s not perfect and there are people who seriously screw it up.

I’m all for studying more about the faith. And he is interested in studying more about Catholicism. I’ve studied Islam for more than a year now and will admit I’ve only touched the surface.

But when talking about forcing people into another religion, that is a fundamental mishap belief about Islam. it is actually forbidden in Islam to force people to convert to another religion.

“Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth has been made clear from error. Whoever rejects false worship and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that never breaks. And Allah hears and knows all things.” [Surah al-Baqarah: 256]

Do fundamentalists hold up this belief? Obviously not. And that’s the thing; I’m not dating a fundamentalist Muslim, nor a Muslim from a fundamentalist family.

And for Muslims, the marriage contract specifically states that the children must be raised Muslim. Honest to God, I have no problem with that. I really don’t. I suppose a large part of it is due to the fact that I honestly don’t see why whether the kids are Muslim or Catholic is such a big deal.

I think part of it is because I’ve been somewhat discouraged and disillusioned by my mother’s strict old-school Catholicism teachings that she brought me up with.

Pope John Paul encouraged interfaith dialogue and the connections between Islam and Catholicism.

catholic-forum.com/saints/pope0264qr.htm
mereislam.info/2005/04/pope-john-paul-ii-and-islam.html
I would say to you that as a Catholic your first duty is to thoroughly know and study your Catholic faith. We Catholics sometimes think we know our faith

Go and do a course in RCIA and an Ignatian Retreat on spirituality.

You have all the rest of your life and you should be cautious otherwise we will be hearing from you on the Annulment thread!!

He may be very charming and all that but you must also remember the cultural differences.

Love is blind

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Well LDN, you better wake up and smell the atrocities that are happening with Catholics everywhere. Do you watch news? Do you subscribe to two Catholic newspapers as myself? Do you belong to the Catholic League? Ever hear of it? Wake up buddy and see how our priests and people of some countries are being murdered for the sake of Catholicism.
Islam is in a fight to the death with Christianity and the sooner you realize this, the more informed you’ll be when we have a holy war, (which, by the way, is happening now).
My Muslim neighbours who I have known since I was a baby have yet to kill me in some bloody jihad. Some Muslims might be fighting due to an interpretation of Al Qur’an but not all are. If all one billion Muslims decided to attack at once the war would end rather quickly don’t you think?

They are at war with America and her allies because of atrocities committed in those lands. You seem to see yourself as the victim in this. You aren’t
 
I’m going through AROTC right now. I won’t officially be in the military yet.

That has been one of many thoughts that have crossed my mind. I am well aware of the horror stories that have occured from a mixed Muslim marriage. I am also aware that it is possible for such a marriage to last as well, children or no.

I have said that I am waiting on this and praying. As one of the first posters said, a lot can happen in two years, which is exactly why I’m waiting. I know right now it’s too early. I’m praying about this to make sure that this man is the right one for me.

And to all who have stated that I have an obligation to raise my children Catholic, where can I find this document/doctrine, ect? Is it in the Catechism or did the pope specifically state it or what? I’m not trying to challenge you, I just want to know where it states in our religion that it is exactly the case. I want to see for myself.
I was looking up for you the information on raising your children Catholic and came across this link.

"8. When a Catholic marries a non-Catholic, must the non-Catholic promise to raise the children in the Catholic faith?

The non-Catholic spouse does not have to promise to have the children raised Catholic. The Catholic spouse must promise to do all that he or she can to have the children baptized and raised in the Catholic faith. "
usccb.org/laity/marriage/marriagefaqs.shtml

"Catholic-Muslim Marriages
Catholic-Muslim marriages have been in the headlines recently after the international aid agency Caritas reported that Catholic-Muslim marriages are on the rise in Italy. Catholic women elsewhere in Europe reportedly are marrying Muslim men in growing numbers. Marriages between Catholics and Muslims present their own particular challenges. In 2004, Pope John Paul II released a strongly worded document urging Catholics, particularly women, to be cautious about marrying Muslims.

Referring to women as the “least-protected member of the Muslim family,” the pope wrote that “bitter experience” reveals the difficulties facing European women who marry Muslim men - difficulties that are compounded if the couple lives in a Muslim country.

Islamic men may marry outside of their faith only if their spouse is Christian or Jewish. In fact, the prophet Muhammed had a Christian wife and Jewish wife. A non-Muslim wife is not required to adopt any Muslim laws, and her husband cannot keep her from attending church or synagogue. However, Islamic women are forbidden from marrying non?Muslim men unless the spouse agrees to convert to Islam."
foryourmarriage.org/interior_template.asp?id=20398787

usccb.org/catechism/text/pt2sect2chpt3art7.htm

God Bless!
 
Yes, my husband was born in Iran, but his whole family consists of lax Muslims. Some of them don’t even consider themseves Muslim, and I know a lot more about Islam than my husband.

His grandmother who died in Iran 2 years ago stated to her family before she died that she did not want to have any of the Islamic customs for her funeral (like reading of the Koran or turning the body in the coffin to face Mecca).

His entire family immigrated abroad after the fall of Shah Pahlavi to avoid Homeini and influence of Islam.

My husband has many friends who are Arabs (my husband is not an Arab, he is a Persian). Some of them were born here and are more devout than those who immigrated.

Just remember that the 9-11 attackers were going to topless bars to fit in the society and to seem normal before flying the planes into buildings killing thousands of innocent people. They believed that by doing it they are erning paradise for themselves.

I urge you again to get the book “Jesus and Muhammad”. You will not find a better source to learn about Islam than that.

By the way, our 17-year old daughter is right now doing a novena for her father’s salvation. It is called “Two Promises” and gives an assuarance of salvation to the one who does it and another soul of their choosing. She chose her father.

God Bless.
 
I’m not going to say much… I’ll just hope you do some “reading”, with the blinders off, and without the “I don’t think it will happen to me, because (insert excuse)…”

google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=Muslim+Man+takes+children+out+of+US&btnG=Google+Search

google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&channel=s&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=bgn&q=Muslim+prejudice+persecution+of+Catholics&btnG=Search

Its your life…but I sincerely hope that you are not one of those people who foolishly fly in the face of conventional wisdom and try to prove the world wrong…and get crushed in the process.

Personally, I think I would rather spend a few months swatting at hornet’s nests with a broomstick than tread the path you are contemplating…

Good luck…
 
You don’t appear to a staunch Catholic? If you were, you would never consider bringing your children up as Muslim.
I guess I really don’t then. I’m doing some more bibilical studies and trying to continue to be more in touch with my faith. I have a tough time wrapping my mind around that Catholicism is the only path for your soul to be saved. Everyone else says the same damn thing and cause bloody wars over it. I don’t see why it’s wrong to accept that there are many different paths to God and niether are better nor worse than Catholicism.
I suggest you think long and hard about this because it is a life altering decision. It will totally shape the identity of your children.
I have no qualms with this and have been doing so. And continue to meditate and pray on this.
You come from totally different backgrounds. Do you want to pass on your culture to your children, or his? You can’t have it both ways - they are either Muslim or Catholic. They cannot be both. By trying to raise them as both Catholic and Muslim, they will feel very confliced. For instance, could they drink alcohol or eat pork?
I know that we’re from completely different cultures.I’m perfectly fine with his culture being passed down and the children being Muslim. Most importantly, I made it very clear to him that it can’t be just me making sacrifices, giving up things. Both of us would have to compromise. Will I miss sizzling up bacon or cooking spare ribs with him and our children? Yeah, I would. But they’re going to learn how to properly drink and enjoy both wine and beer with dinner. It’s not a one sided relationship, and he is very well aware of that, and makes sure that such a relationship will never develop.
How important is your faith to you? That’s the question you have to answer. And perhaps more importantly, how important is your culture? Do you want your children to have Christian names or arabic names? Do you want them to dress as Muslims, or as western children? Do you want your daughter to wear a headscarf?
How important is my faith? I fight for my God, my country and my family. That has been my motto since I signed up for the Army.
I’ve picked out some Muslim names; I’ve found them to be beautiful and easy to pronounce. They have Christian equivalence.
Modesty travels all boundaries. Probably to certain community parties they would adorn more Muslim-style garb, but for the most part, just dress like normal kids in the US.
He is extremely vocal against headscarfs, saying that girls should CHOOSE whether they want to wear it or not, I’d like to keep that perspective. If i have a daughter that wants to wear the hijab, then good for her. If she doesn’t, so what? There are muslim women in the US that don’t wear hijabs [headscarfs] and live perfectly normal lives.
What do your parents think about this?
My mother is apprehensive, but my father wants me to make sure that I know what I’m getting into before he gives me his blessing. Which I accept wholeheartedly.
By allowing your children to be raised Muslim, you are turning your back on your heritage to a large degree. Your forefathers were Christian, you are a Christian, so why wouldn’t you want your children to be Christian?
I have no confidence in raising my children Catholic. I really don’t. I’m a cradle-born Catholic with lots of conflicting misinformation that I’ve received throughout my life. Do I have large gaps in my faith that need to be filled? Yes, I’m admiting that. Am I trying to fill those gaps? Yes I am. And so far what I’ve learned from my Catholic bible studies and religious classes hasn’t really changed me all that much. My opinion, however heretic it may be according to the Catholic Church, still hasn’t changed and has failed to convince me otherwise.
Religion is about heritage and culture. It is about passing your family traditions on.
I’ve found in my family there just aren’t some traditions worth passing on. Some of my family traditions in faith have left me disillusioned. I’ve found Easter and Christmas to be too commericialized (mind you this is just within my family). I’ve found too much emphasis on materialism that’s lasted far too long. Even her husband, my father, gets intimidated by her at times. Living with a mother that is like an Evangelical Christian, but Catholic, was very disheartening to me. When I got more indepth with my Catholic studies, I ended up developing a more apethetic outlook than all the teachings with my mother. I don’t choose to date someone outside my faith to rebel and make her angry. If I wanted to do that, I’d date an athiest. I’m with this guy because I love him.
. Also, there is no such thing as “old-school” Catholicism. The faith has never changed in 2000 years. Vatican II did not change doctrine or beliefs. It was entirely pastoral in nature. What was once held to be true, is still held to be the truth. There is no change.
The freakish blind dedication to the faith like in the Middle Ages would be a better description.
You need to realise the implications of this, but most importantly, you need to realise the truth of the Catholic faith. You do not realise how priveledged you were to be born a Catholic - you were given the fullness of the truth in your infancy, and now you are in danger of throwing it away.
That’s the problem, I don’t realize the priveledges of being born Catholic. I honestly will admit to that.I have enough appreciation to not convert to Islam. And I really don’t know how to go about cultivating that appreciation.
 
I’m not going to say much… I’ll just hope you do some “reading”, with the blinders off, and without the “I don’t think it will happen to me, because (insert excuse)…”

google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=Muslim+Man+takes+children+out+of+US&btnG=Google+Search

google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&channel=s&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=bgn&q=Muslim+prejudice+persecution+of+Catholics&btnG=Search

Its your life…but I sincerely hope that you are not one of those people who foolishly fly in the face of conventional wisdom and try to prove the world wrong…and get crushed in the process.

Personally, I think I would rather spend a few months swatting at hornet’s nests with a broomstick than tread the path you are contemplating…

Good luck…
Thank you for those sources. And your valid points. I am somewhat of a risk-taker, but I do research before I take a leap of faith. And from a variety of sources. I hate reading with a biased mind and biased pieces of work. I like looking at the whole picture with an open mind.
I assure you, I will be taking a lot into consideration before making my final decision.

Malgosia, I’ll try and get those books. Thank you very much for your suggestions. That’s pretty awesome what your daughter is doing.

emeraldcoast, thank you SO MUCH for that link. It really bothered me when I couldn’t find some sort of concrete proof about what people were saying about the Catholic spouses’ obligations. I only received the misinformation that there was no obligation to raise the children catholic if the spoose was non-Catholic.
 
Happynoodlecat, please also consider one thing: if my husband displayed any of the qualities I mentioned in my first post, I would have never married him.

He told me things like: “I can convert if you want me to” and “We are going to have a wonderful life together”. The day we met we went to Chi Chi’s for a Margerita, and through our dating we would ocassionally go for a drink together. He does not drink now, and we never have wine or beer, which is fine with me since I am not a drinker.

The way your boyfriend is now is no indication of how he will be after he marries you. My husband is a perfect example of that.

I have a lot of peace and joy in my heart, which I only obtained after I realized that the only person I can count on in our marriage is myself. I am a precious child of God and my worth comes not from who I married but that from the fact that Jesus died for me and all of us. When you know you are loved so much by God, there is nothing anyone else can do to lessen your worth. There is nothing you cannot overcome.

I raised my children Catholic because I wanted them to have the same conviction about God’s love as I have. And of course because I believe it is the truth.

Do not judge our religion by what your mother presented to you. Obviously, she did not realize the extend of God’s love and mercy, or she would show it to you and teach you about it. I would rather die than be anything esle but Catholic.

I’m glad you are praying about it. You can never go wrong when you pray.

God bless.
 
I guess I really don’t then. I’m doing some more bibilical studies and trying to continue to be more in touch with my faith. I have a tough time wrapping my mind around that Catholicism is the only path for your soul to be saved. I don’t see why it’s wrong to accept that there are many different paths to God and niether are better nor worse than Catholicism.
I encourage you to continue reading the Bible, but I also suggest you pick up a copy of the Catechism of the Catholic Church because this will spell out exacly what the Church teaches about everything.

You should also read about the doctrine “Outside of the Church, there is no Salvation.” This doctrine is not black and white, and much has been written about it. I recommend a book entitled Salvation Outside the Church?: Tracing the History of the Catholic Response by Francis A. Sullivan. If you really want a full explanation of this doctrine, then you should read this book. It is available from amazon.
I know that we’re from completely different cultures.I’m perfectly fine with his culture being passed down and the children being Muslim. Both of us would have to compromise. Will I miss sizzling up bacon or cooking spare ribs with him and our children? Yeah, I would. But they’re going to learn how to properly drink and enjoy both wine and beer with dinner.
What about situations when your cultures collide? Whose culture takes precedence? What if your daughter asks a question and you and your husband have different beliefs?

I find it difficult to see how both cultures, religions and traditions can co-exist. Don’t forget that you’ll also have to deal with in-laws; they’ll also have an influence over your children and they may be more religious than your boyfriend.

Furthermore, why should you have to give up bacon or pork? Why should you have to celebrate the Muslim holidays etc when you’re not a Muslim?

Also, what language will your children learn and speak at home? Don’t be suprised if you’re boyfriend wants them to speak his language at home. Also, will you have to go through a Muslim wedding ceremony and learn his language?
**How important is my faith? I fight for my God, my country and my family. That has been my motto since I signed up for the Army.
**I’ve picked out some Muslim names; I’ve found them to be beautiful and easy to pronounce. They have Christian equivalence.
Modesty travels all boundaries. Probably to certain community parties they would adorn more Muslim-style garb, but for the most part, just dress like normal kids in the US.
He is extremely vocal against headscarfs, saying that girls should CHOOSE whether they want to wear it or not, I’d like to keep that perspective. If i have a daughter that wants to wear the hijab, then good for her. If she doesn’t, so what? There are muslim women in the US that don’t wear hijabs [headscarfs] and live perfectly normal lives.
Honestly ask yourself whether you consider yourself Catholic, or do you just call yourself “Catholic” because that is your childhood faith? To be a Catholic is to believe in what the Church teaches. It also means having a mature relationship with Christ through the ministry of his Church.

How often do you attend Mass? How often do go to Confession? Can you honestly say you believe in the Creeds and doctrines of the faith?

You owe it to yourself and your future children to fully explore and learn about the faith. Afterall, you will be responsible for the spiritual well-being of your children. I suggest you begin reading, and listening to Catholic Answers. Leave no stone unturned, and no questions unanswered. You have to ask yourself who and what you want to be in the long run?
My mother is apprehensive
I think this whole thing will be causing your mother considerable stress. However, it is your life to live and you have to do what you think is right. I think you should talk to your mother about this and she what she really feels. It is good to get everything out in the open before you get married or have children. Your mother may have totally different ideas about how she wants you to raise her future grandchildren, and this may cause friction in the future. It would be better to establish the ground rules sooner rather than later.
I have no confidence in raising my children Catholic. I really don’t. I’m a cradle-born Catholic with lots of conflicting misinformation that I’ve received throughout my life. Do I have large gaps in my faith that need to be filled? Yes, I’m admiting that. Am I trying to fill those gaps? Yes I am. And so far what I’ve learned from my Catholic bible studies and religious classes hasn’t really changed me all that much.
This is the most important thing you have shared with us. You need to establish once and for all where you stand spiritually. It sounds as if you haven’t had a pleasant experience with religion, and perhaps you should re-examine your beliefs carefully. As I said previously, you should really read the Catechism and the Bible. Start with the Gospels. And don’t forget to pray.

Don’t let your mother cloud your judgement. She is only one out of a billion Catholics worldwide. You should learn about the faith from the official sources - Catechism, Bible, Papal Encyclicals etc. Catholic Answers and EWTN are also great resources. I think you should meet with a priest and discuss all this. I wouldn’t visit your family priest; I would go to another parish, to a priest who doesn’t know you, or your family.
 
watch the movie with sally fields called Not Without My Daughter. it is an excellent movie. it might give you some insight.
 
I’m sorry to have to put it in such blunt terms, but the fate of your soul and the souls of your children are much more important than your love for your muslim boyfriend. They are what you should be focusing on when you choose a mate, whether he be the man you are with now or someone else.

All religions are not equal paths to God, because they teach different things about who or what that God is, and how we must worship Him. In my personal opinion as a monotheist, it follows by default that the one God of the Muslims must be the God of the Christians as well, but the Muslims mischaracterize Him because they do not know Him fully. They do not know him fully because their book, written by a man with incorrect and incomplete knowledge of Christianity, denies the divinity and crucifixion of Jesus. If you are ANY kind of Christian, you believe in those two things. Recall Jesus’ words in John 14:6 that no one come to the Father except through HIM. Take this seriously, recognize that Muslims do not do it, and recognize what that means for your possible husband and any children you may have with him. You may respect your husband’s/husband’s family’s religion, but you should not see it as co-equal with yours. They are not equal paths to God.
 
What about the verse from first Corinthians

1 Corinthians 7:12-14: “For the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband.”

Obviously there’s going to be difference because there two different religions but there are more similarities than you might think. So one says Jesus is God the other says he is only a prophet, yes there are many other differences but this seems to be the prime object of conflict. Although I havent read it yet there is a book in my library that illustrates the remarable similarites between catholcism and Shiite Islam. One example is the rosmary. Another is the pilgrimage Muslims make to latin America to see a picture of Lady Fatima but I think this Fatima refers to one of Muhammud’s daughters. There is an article I read a while ago that claimed Islam was created by the Catholic Church! Talk about conspiracy theories.
I dont see these as similarities, first of all you must believe in the Father Son and Holy Spirit, they don’t. Secondly the Lady of Fatima is the Blessed Mother, again big difference from Muhammuds daughters, Nothing here has anything in common with the Catholic Church.
 
For me, I’m a very tolerant Catholic. Not that militant or aggressive. For me, I see the Islam as another route to God. It’s not better or worse than Catholicism, just another way.
happynoodlecat, I once believed the same as you do and deemed it as you did (backwoods pre Vatican II mentality). Unfortunately, it is not that way when you come to Jesus. You may feel that there are many ways to find God, but I would dedicate some time reading in his Gospels starting with the Gospel of Mark and then Matthew and meditate on this great mystery (I mean really reading them, no bias, or prejudice). I would pray about it and discern Gods’ call on this matter. I married my wife about a year ago, she comes from a very non-Catholic fundamentalist family (in fact, her mom sounds a lot like your mom, except she’s not Catholic), and I come from a lax Catholic family. I can tell you from our marriage religion does matter, in fact, it’s the only thing that matters. Different convictions cause different forms of behavior and the older a person gets, as the flesh withers away, the more religious they become in spirit. We’ve had our ups and downs because of our differences in faith, and I tell you it’s been a challenging road. However, that is not to say it wasn’t been worthwhile. The point that I’m trying to make is that even thou it may not seem like a big deal right now, if you do decide to marry a person of a different faith, then there will be a lot of bumps on the road, and if it has been hard for me marrying a non-Catholic who is also Christian, think of how difficult it will be to marry a Muslim. I’m not trying to deter you from making your decision, I just think you should pray as I will also pray for you.
 
happynoodlecat, I once believed the same as you do and deemed it as you did (backwoods pre Vatican II mentality). Unfortunately, it is not that way when you come to Jesus. You may feel that there are many ways to find God, but I would dedicate some time reading in his Gospels starting with the Gospel of Mark and then Matthew and meditate on this great mystery (I mean really reading them, no bias, or prejudice). I would pray about it and discern Gods’ call on this matter. I married my wife about a year ago, she comes from a very non-Catholic fundamentalist family (in fact, her mom sounds a lot like your mom, except she’s not Catholic), and I come from a lax Catholic family. I can tell you from our marriage religion does matter, in fact, it’s the only thing that matters. Different convictions cause different forms of behavior and the older a person gets, as the flesh withers away, the more religious they become in spirit. We’ve had our ups and downs because of our differences in faith, and I tell you it’s been a challenging road. However, that is not to say it wasn’t been worthwhile. The point that I’m trying to make is that even thou it may not seem like a big deal right now, if you do decide to marry a person of a different faith, then there will be a lot of bumps on the road, and if it has been hard for me marrying a non-Catholic who is also Christian, think of how difficult it will be to marry a Muslim. I’m not trying to deter you from making your decision, I just think you should pray as I will also pray for you.
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I Must say this is one of those rare occasions Protestants, Catholics all come together and agree. How refreshing! How wonderful to see this happen.
 
rinnie – you are so right. i hadn’t thought of that. good point.
 
There are more nuances to the polygamy issue there your presenting. Many muslims consider polgamy to be a historical neccesity because at the time of their prophet many households were left desolate and wives were left with no husband. so they need someone to take care of them so that is why the Husband took a second and third and fourth wife. Also a husband can only take another wife if he has his first wifes permission and he treats them all equally. My criticism of polygamy is that only rich men could have polgamous relationships because poor men can afford it.
while some might believe having more than one wife was only allowable in the past some do believe it is an eternal teaching and applies always.

you didn’t mention right hand possessions

there was a thread about this.

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=258096

anyway the point is that if you are going to make a commitment that lasts forever, then the smart thing to do is to really research your own religion. also, i would really read through the hadith.

pray to God and ask for his guidance.
 
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Is it really that bad that I am quite fine with not raising the children Catholic? I’m quite fine with them being raised Muslim and going to Catholic schools. **

Why are you happy with denying Christ to your children?
 
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