Catholic Santorum winning the South ... our next Prez ?

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Caldera said:
The point is, is that Finney was the analyst commenting on MSNBC the night when Santorum won Alabama and Mississippi. She has worked for Hillary Clinton in the past, and also serves on the board of NARAL.

I think her comments were ridiculous.
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I think her comments were silly, too. If she had any factual basis for making them, I don’t think presented that information.

But US television commentators aren’t known for dispassionate and even-handed statements. Such an approach isn’t good for ratings. TV shows want conflict, they want controversy.
 
CMatt25 said:
Oh ok so basically one analyst Karen Finney was simply wanting to ask these women and mentioned a fact that polls have previously shown a number of conservatives considered the President a Muslim even though he was baptized in and his children were baptized in the United Church of Christ. And that somehow means the “leftist media” is spinning this. :rolleyes:
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How does it feel trying to defend a strawman argument from someone on the left? Read again why she believes Santorum’s win is racism in Alabama and Mississippi. It’s about conservatism in case you missed it.
 
CMatt25 said:
Oh ok so basically one analyst Karen Finney was simply wanting to ask these women and mentioned a fact that polls have previously shown a number of conservatives considered the President a Muslim even though he was baptized in and his children were baptized in the United Church of Christ. And that somehow means the “leftist media” is spinning this. :rolleyes:
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You are missing the point of this discussion.This was a republican primary,three white men running against each other.How in the world does race even factor into this? Karen Finney’s premise was race trumps a woman’s reproductive rights.Huh??? This just shows me how pathetic the left leaning media really is,that they inject race into everything,even when it isn’t applicable!
 
62Joy said:
No, because destroying the whole country without any plan to replace what you have torn down is just plain stupid. It seems the conservatives want to drag this country back to before the civil war era. Perhaps I misunderstand but your comment sounds like you are trying to say that I am motivated by wanting the government to take care of me. Please note that the last democrat I voted for, before Obama, was Hubert Humphrey when he ran against Nixon. That was a long time ago.

But the GOP is not the party of Lincoln anymore. Eisenhower, Ford and even Reagan would not be far right enough for the new GOP. .Barry Goldwater’s daughter said that her dad would not be considered conservative enough and would never recognize what his party has become. I had great respect for Goldwater. The party has sold out to far right radicals in the Tea Party, where there is clear evidence that the “so called” grass roots movement started and was motivated by race, Limbaugh,Fox news and financed by the Koch Brothers. It is also interesting how the GOP has now distanced themselves from them at least until after the election. When the GOP again is about being fiscally conservative and moves more toward the center than I will join the party again. In the mean time, I think they are using us and the abortion issue to destroy what is left of the middle class and to raise up all those rich people and companies they are tied to. People like Grover Norquist. Respectfully-
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For that matter,the Democrat party is no longer the party of JFK,who by today’s standards,would be considered a “conservative”. I can’t help but think that a lot of democrats,Catholics,on particular,are on auto pilot,not really paying attention to what the Democrat party has become.:confused:
 
Caldera said:
How does it feel trying to defend a strawman argument from someone on the left? Read again why she believes Santorum’s win is racism in Alabama and Mississippi. It’s about conservatism in case you missed it.
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It feels fine. I easily comprehend commentary by one person on the “left” does equate to the “leftist media” spinning whatever it is any one person said.
 
Jeanne_S said:
You are missing the point of this discussion.This was a republican primary,three white men running against each other.How in the world does race even factor into this? Karen Finney’s premise was race trumps a woman’s reproductive rights.Huh??? This just shows me how pathetic the left leaning media really is,that they inject race into everything,even when it isn’t applicable!
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I haven’t spoken with Karen since her comment and am not in the habit of doing so. So I could only wonder. Most likely one of those 3 men will be running in the general though where women’s rights will be an issue against the POTUS unless of course conservatives enter a brokered convention and choose someone else. The same POTUS who people have painted pictures of depicting him with a Hitler mustache. Or who think he is a Muslim as Karen also alluded to. Or that he wasn’t born in Hawaii. Or whatever.

In any case Karen alone does not represent the “leftist media spinning” and as usual Rush got this one wrong too.
 
CMatt25 said:
I haven’t spoken with Karen since her comment and am not in the habit of doing so. So I could only wonder. Most likely one of those 3 men will be running in the general though where women’s rights will be an issue against the POTUS unless of course conservatives enter a brokered convention and choose someone else. The same POTUS who people have painted pictures of depicting him with a Hitler mustache. Or who think he is a Muslim as Karen also alluded to. Or that he wasn’t born in Hawaii. Or whatever.

In any case Karen alone does not represent the “leftist media spinning” and as usual Rush got this one wrong too.
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FYI,this is MY opinion,I heard the sound byte on Rush’s program.Although it was pretty obvious this was media spin.By the way,you mention you get some of your info from Ed Schultz,Rachael Madow,et all,enough said.😉
 
Jeanne_S said:
FYI,this is MY opinion,I heard the sound byte on Rush’s program.Although it was pretty obvious this was media spin.By the way,you mention you get some of your info from Ed Schultz,Rachael Madow,et all,enough said.😉
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It’s your opinion this is “leftist media” spin? Ok. We’re all welcome to our opinions. 🤷 And FYI while never Rush, I’ll tune into FOX too though sometimes along with CNN as well to get their opinions and spins as well. 👍 God bless you and peace.
 
Obama will in…handily. The demographics in this country state as much.
 
I just heard that poll of independent voters favor Romney 49 percent to Obama 41percent.That is not a lot,but it is moving in the right direction. Only time will tell!😉
 
CMatt25 said:
vs Santorum you mean?
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Vs any white male republican.

Obama is guaranteed the black and latino vote, throw in a solid chunk of white women, male white liberals, and that leaves only white conservative men and some conservative white women to vote against him. The numbers dont work for anything besides an Obama victory.

yes I am overgeneralizing, but non-whites and white women overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
 
Geist said:
Vs any white male republican.

Obama is guaranteed the black and latino vote, throw in a solid chunk of white women, male white liberals, and that leaves only white conservative men and some conservative white women to vote against him. The numbers dont work for anything besides an Obama victory.

yes I am overgeneralizing, but non-whites and white women overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
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Lol
 
Geist said:
Vs any white male republican.

Obama is guaranteed the black and latino vote, throw in a solid chunk of white women, male white liberals, and that leaves only white conservative men and some conservative white women to vote against him. The numbers dont work for anything besides an Obama victory.

yes I am overgeneralizing, but non-whites and white women overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
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I see your point. I do think some seem to believe if the GOP candidate picks FL’s Marco Rubio to run with him as VP, that will help with the Latino vote. But for instance with his opposition to the Dream Act which polls show an overwhelming of Latino voters support, I’m not convinced Rubio would be enough to tip the scale. Cuban Americans often vote Republican in any case. And I’m not convinced Latinos overall would flock to the GOP in large enough droves to save them. But it’s still a long ways yet until Nov. I expect a very close call either way it goes. The country became more divided in 2000 with Bush v Gore. The popular vote going one way and the SCOTUS ruling another for the Electoral College. Bush didn’t help matters. And since Obama’s election, and the efforts of the Tea Party since, the division has continued. Congress is more unpopular than Obama. And I think the election could still very much go either way.
 
Don’t forget to throw in the free money. How do you compete with free money?

“I won’t have to worry about putting gas in my car. I won’t have to worry about paying my mortgage”.
 
You might want to stop looking at it from a racial view.

Conservatives, approximately 40 percent of the population, will vote Republican.

Liberals, approximately 20 percent, will vote liberal.

The remaining 40 percent of independents, consisting of conservative to liberal leaning moderates from all walks of life, decide the election.

Obama will not win hands down, sorry, ain’t happening.
 
bbarrick8383 said:
You might want to stop looking at it from a racial view.

Conservatives, approximately 40 percent of the population, will vote Republican.

Liberals, approximately 20 percent, will vote liberal.

The remaining 40 percent of independents, consisting of conservative to liberal leaning moderates from all walks of life, decide the election.

Obama will not win hands down, sorry, ain’t happening.
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That’s what I said. I do still think though despite any polls today 8 mos out, that who the GOP eventually nominates could still end up and make some difference in the margin either way it goes though. The perception is still there that despite his attempts in the primaries of proving otherwise, many still think Romney is more moderate than Santorum ever will be.
 
bbarrick8383 said:
You might want to stop looking at it from a racial view.

Conservatives, approximately 40 percent of the population, will vote Republican.

Liberals, approximately 20 percent, will vote liberal.

The remaining 40 percent of independents, consisting of conservative to liberal leaning moderates from all walks of life, decide the election.

Obama will not win hands down, sorry, ain’t happening.
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According to Rasmussen (a right leaning organization) party identification is much closer.
rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/partisan_trends
 
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