Catholic School vs State School

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Allegra said:
It isn’t as much about the Catholic school being a bubble, because most people realize that they aren’t. It’s more about dealing with the “problem” of having gay people and their advocates by trying to escape to a place the believe those people won’t exist that raises the concern of not being able to function in the real world.
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GordonP said:
Actually, that is a pretty astute and spot on criticism of Rod Dreher’s “The Benedict Option”, which is essentially escaping to a distant place where they can pretend that LGBT people simply don’t exist.
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Please read this. It’s from the Vatican via the news office of the USCCB.


Here is the source document, in Italian; the English version is forthcoming.

http://www.educatio.va/content/dam/cec/Documenti/19_0996_ITA.pdf

So there is the official position of the Catholic Church. Both of you seem to disagree, and like the document says, it’s likely out of a sincere desire to prevent unjust discrimination. That is respectfully noted. Let me assure you that NO ONE here is trying to pretend same-sex-attracted people don’t exist. Nobody is trying to create an LGBT-free bubble. Everybody (and we can certainly include the Vatican, based on the above) is concerned about things like THIS (caution—Catholic news with explicit reporting):

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/...sex-ed-bill-could-marginalize-catholics-74082

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/...s_sex_ed._bill_that_promotes_gender_confusion

www.ncregister.com

Church Backs Parental Rights as Californians Debate Sex Education

As explicit curricula in public schools spark protests, Catholics and other religious groups bolster parents with information and options.
www.ncregister.com www.ncregister.com

If you aren’t aware of U.S. states pushing mandatory LGBT-oriented sex-ed for elementary/primary school and even kindergartners—now you are. As you now know, parents have the duty to teach their children in accordance with the Catholic Faith. It is not discriminatory or homophobic to hold that children should be taught about such matters only with parental consent. For the state to mandate these “curricula” is for it to effectively discriminate against Catholics.

And it’s common knowledge that things are far worse outside of the U.S., where there is a strong line of Supreme Court precedent protecting family and private education. America is unique in the Western world in that regard. Even in the (British) Commonwealth of Nations from which the U.S. came—which includes New Zealand, the OP’s country—such legal protections do not exist. Not living there, I can’t speak for the conditions, but the OP can and he/she has. One would expect that without the protections that exist in the U.S., the state schools would be orders of magnitude more hostile to Catholic families. We should take what the OP said and is concerned about at face value.
 
If the Catholic school has high achieving kids (many do), and a good rep with universities (many do) and you can switch without having to repeat a whole year or something–go for it!!!
 
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I interviewed Tuesday for a Catholic school position teaching middle school English Language Arts. Today, somewhat to my surprise, they offered me the position. I accepted.
During the interview I had expressed my concern about having to vet every story book I was asked to read to public school kids (as a sub). The interview team–two staff and the pastor-- seemed approving of that answer. I’m thrilled.
It’s not about hiding kids or unrealistically sequestering them away from the wickedness of secular culture. It’s about growing them as Catholics. And, much of secular culture is wicked, and robs children of their innocence at ever-younger ages! How can educators and parents be told they’re not helping kids by protecting their innocence when they are at their most vulnerable??!
 
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Amen!
Some of the talk here is downright defeatist as in, “well, you might as well just wallow in the cesspool of contemporary culture now, because you’re going to have to wallow in it eventually anyway.”
Cynicism, pessimism, despair, resignation–the opposite of the theological virtue of hope and the cardinal virtue of fortitude.
 
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First of all, if you read my post, I clearly advocated for learning to stick up for yourself when necessary. A coworker calling Catholic coworkers horribly offensive things isn’t going to get in trouble at all, unless he or she is reported. I don’t now if the OP is being directly bullied or not. His first three complaints were flags, posters, and the presence of gay students in the school. None of that sounds like bullying. He later mentioned hearing people say offensive things about Catholics and priests, but its unclear if he is directly being insulted, accused, or threatened. If someone is actually targeting him, that is one thing, but I would deal with it through the proper means first.
 
It is not really the cost of homeschooling.

It is the lack of wage the teacher cannot earn.
 
So you’re suggesting there are NO acceptable catholic schools? The only way to be ‘catholic enough’ is to homeschool?
 
I do not disagree with anything in that statement. I think Catholic teachers and parents absolutely must teach their children the Church’s position on homosexuality and it seems like the OPs parents have met this obligation. I’m not sure how that translates to changing schools because gay people go there.
 
Hardly de fide. Would he still say such a thing today? Somehow I doubt it. Western culture has sunk far deeper into the pit of utter wickedness than when he was alive.
 
Allegra said:
I’m not sure how that translates to changing schools because gay people go there.
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I think the situation the OP described is well beyond that.
catholic03 said:
However, as a Catholic, it is very hard. The school is very liberal; rainbow flags on every classroom door, posters promoting homosexuality in every corridor, a day each year to promote homosexuality, a large number of practising homosexual students. I am called a bigot for trying to express my beliefs. I have other people’s beliefs shoved down my throat every day. I have to cope with people I know calling me, priests and other clergy unbelievably offensive things. It makes me very upset. I risk getting into trouble everyday for talking about the Catholic Church.
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MarysLurker said:
If you aren’t aware of U.S. states pushing mandatory LGBT-oriented sex-ed for elementary/primary school and even kindergartners —now you are.
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They certainly are pushing the agenda. I’m tired of feeling like an unwilling accomplice to it. Very motivating for me to find a teaching position in a Catholic Christian school. And I just did.
 
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It gets repeated a lot on these forums.
If we’re talking about colleges, well, most of the Jesuit-founded schools are Catholic in name only. Some of the rest as well.
 
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I firmly agree with that, lets just keep Fulton Sheen out of this. Now I fully get that I did not site something credible as it is a wordpress.com.
 
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I really don’t like to criticise the Church, her leaders and her institutions. I feel that the Church provides us with these things, and it is up to the Church to make sure that nothing deviates from Church doctrine.

I do like H.E. Raymond Cdl Burke! What a great man who always speaks the truth.
 
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