Catholic Teaching and Immunization Policy

[blackforest]

Comparing HIV to contagious diseases that children are vaccinated is truly and apples to oranges situation because of the transmission vectors. There is also the difference that one does not chose HIV, but some do, as a matter of choice, refuse to have their kids vaccinates, yet still expect to use public schools or day cares.

Are you familiar with how Hepatitis B is transmitted?

First, teachers and workers are required the same level of vaccination as kids to in school.

I’m not familiar with any state that mandates vaccination for teachers, administrators, or other adults in schools. California had a bill up for this, but I’m not sure if it passed.

 

[blackforest]

I’ll have to check my records, but I think I’m actually vaccinated for it! I’m older, i.e. not vaccinated for it as a child, but I got a huge slew of vaccines before traveling. Ironically, I may be one of the most vaccinated people in this thread, lol!

 

[Pup7]

Blackforest is right about school staff.

Someone screenshot this.

(Blackforest, I mean no ill will. )

 

[blackforest]

 

[Pup7]

My guess is it’s between the two of us.

While on active duty ALONE I’ve had the Japanese encephalitis vaccine, both the Hep A and Hep B series, annual flus for 16 years, yellow fever, typhoid, meningiococcus, smallpox, six anthraxes, four MMRs, one polio, two TDaPs, and I’m sure a partridge in a pear tree. That’s what I can remember off the cuff.

Plus all my vaccines as a kid. And flu vaccines in those civilian years between my enlisted and commissioned time.

The worse ones were typhoid, yellow fever, and JEV.

 

[blackforest]

Nope. You beat me - I didn’t need anthrax or JEV for my travels.

Did you do the oral typhoid vaccine?

 

[Pup7]

The reasoning is similar to why I took my son to get the flu vaccine this year (he volunteered). My wife is undergoing chemo and her lowered immune response made the flu very dangerous.

When I worked in oncology, my husband - who isn’t exactly big on the flu shot (although this year has changed his mind) - used to go and get one out of respect for my patients. He said he’d feel terrible if he heard someone got the flu because he’d always wonder if it was him that did it.

I know that’s not how it necessarily works - I could just as easily pick it up at Target on my way to the night shift and inadvertently infect someone - but I was touched that he wanted to do what he could to try and take care of people he didn’t even know.

I told him I appreciated it (and I of course felt better that he had it).

 

[Pup7]

Ah, Ty21a.

Made me sick as H-E-double hockey sticks. It’s live.

So is yellow fever. Both sucked.

 

[Pup7]

I had a huge reaction to smallpox. My whole arm swelled up and turned red and felt like fire. Ironically it’s called a “good take”. Nothing good about it if you ask me. But the more “violent” a reaction you have, the better the immune response will be.

But my scar? A tiny little white spot. I’m good with that!

(Laughing because I’ve just realized how off this thread has become. My apologies for my part in that.)

 

[blackforest]

His reasoning behind giving Hep B was “we can eradicate it”.

Do what? Hep B? It’s an STI, for God’s sake.

There are some dioceses, (in UT and FL, off the top of my head), that refuse admission to any child missing any state-mandated vaccine, including Hep B, for non-medical reasons. Some parents are just delaying it until adolescence, which is hardly “anti-vax.”

I’m against all mandates, but these bishops could put up a much better case for something like MMR. Barring kids from a Catholic education over the Hep B vax is overkill.

 

[Pup7]

Do they have a choice? (Not a smart remark.) Only asking because I don’t know what the laws are governing parochial schools, not being blessed with children myself.

 

[blackforest]

They can do public school, unless they live in MS, WV, or CA, or homeschool. I homeschool and love it, but I hate the thought of it being the only choice for some parents who don’t follow the vaccine schedule.

Catholic schools in my area take non-medical exemptions. It’s the tuition rates keeping my kids out, lol!

 

[Pup7]

Yeah I can imagine.

 

[pnewton]

I’m not familiar with any state that mandates vaccination for teachers, administrators, or other adults in schools. California had a bill up for this, but I’m not sure if it passed.

If not, then I give you kudos for an excellent point. Protection of children should begin first and foremost with those being paid to teach them. To do otherwise seems ludicrous.

 

[Pup7]

pnewton, I was shocked the first time I heard it as well. I admit I had always thought the same thing, and I think teachers should be vaccinated as well.

 

[Gab123]

I’m against the “given at 24 hours old” hepatitis vaccine.

But a baby? No.

I can’t get a satisfactory answer for the reasoning on that one, and I can’t even rationalize its administration.

Yet they do it because they get paid for it; millions of babie$. and what are your thoughts about giving the Rubella shots to little boys? Is there a chance they will ever get pregnant?

 

[Alex337]

I think the doctors doing this are likely more worried about saving lives than making money from us. I’ve seen doctors pay out of their own pocket to help kids who would miss out on shots.

As for rubella, my understanding is that helps protect future partners; that seems fair to me. Especially given the safety of the shot.

 

[Pup7]

Pup7:

I’m against the “given at 24 hours old” hepatitis vaccine.

But a baby? No.

I can’t get a satisfactory answer for the reasoning on that one, and I can’t even rationalize its administration.

Yet they do it because they get paid for it; millions of babie$. and what are your thoughts about giving the Rubella shots to little boys? Is there a chance they will ever get pregnant?

Nope - but they can die from German measles passed on to them from fathers. So I’d prefer they be immunized so that cannot happen with them as the vector.

 

[Gab123]

DDoctors are too busy; they go by what they are told by the CDC.

 

[Gab123]

Nope - but they can die from German measles passed on to them from fathers. So I’d prefer they be immunized so that cannot happen with them as the vector.

You just said you couldn’t understand why newborns are getting the HepatitisB shot, and that you are against it. Shouldn’t we just do what the CDC tells us to do?