Where in the Christian ethic or Gospels is offensive war listed as a viable Christian act? Where is it in US law that gives the US the ‘right’ to attack others before being attacked? How do you reconcile that with being a Catholic first as you stated earlier?
See the bolded green statements for a contradiction. Yes, for the 1st time in 1300 years they were treated more fair than under Islam and we are building Islaimc their ‘democracies’ to keep their ideology alive. I don’t see it as a good thing they vote in Hamas but how hypocritical will we be when we overthrow another freely elected Islamic governemnt we helped create?
The current radicalization started around 610 AD.
Should the Church call for a crusade to fight the Europeans and bring them back in the fold or one against teh Muslims? What verse(s) support your idea?
Blame the governments that threaten the Church with a revocation of a tax status if they speak out in the political arena because Scientology must be honored as a religion too. This is not the fault of the Church. It is the fault of Americans and Canadians, French, English…who willingly give up being Catholic for political reasons. The travesty is the 1st Amendment should protect Catholics amd our spiritual ideology but it has been used as a weapon against us and we accept it like a lemming.
I think Rome is more aware of the issue than you are giving them credit for.
Urge Christians not to side with Muslms. Why bash the Church?
Your arguemnt should be with the government- as mine is- not the Church.
You’re right about the radicalization starting in 610AD
But, what I am talking about is that after the Ottoman Empire fell, there was ‘relative’ peace. The numbers of non-muslims were much higher than they are now. And this should show us all how the koran is the base of all the problems - it doesn’t take much for the violence to start up again and the number of countries that fell to islamic violence grew enormously since the early 20th century.
As for the Church doing something - I would say that there is a definite lobby by muslims, via CAIR - there could indeed be one from the Church - or a united front of ALL Christians having a lobby in Washington. there is also a lobby of Jews in Washington. And I am not only talking about the USA - what about Europe? While Pope John was Pope - more fell to secularism that was mind boggling. There is no outreach program.
And this is the most important thing that the Church can do! STOP the acknowledgement that islam is an ‘Abrahamic’ religion, and that it is equal to any other religion. It is not either. NO ONE is studying islam in the Church because if they have even read less than I have they would know that their claims of being ‘Abrahamic’ is a wish. To post the correct information about islam the religion and also its history and agenda (to kill, convert or subjugate us).
I am not even talking an offensive war. I have time and again said that we need to enforce our laws and stop muslims from changing our laws to acquiesce to their specific religion and also to stop segregation which is based on us being dirty - it is hogwash all their other excuses for it, to stop polygamy, to infiltrate their institutions, to correct the history books and tell freely what islam’s history has been (violence), etc.
As for other countries - we don’t even have to have an offensive war - defensive would be nice. No one in Europe is even offensively trying to bring people back into the fold. It is like the Pope had a better time getting out of Europe when he was alive. This one is so old that he comes out a few times a year and then goes back to sleep for months on end. he doesn’t even have to be the one doing the hard work - send out those around him to start working to bring people back. They could be doing a whole heck of a lot more, or have done a lot more, before the situation in Europe has been getting so bad. There is still hope and they hide in palaces. Once they are in a country - we are the ones who help them grow and spread their untruths about islam - as we do on these threads.
I even saw posts by our own who would rather be braindead and just let the muslims spread untruths than call them on it - just because they read some words that said islam is a valid religion - or something like that.
Who cares about Scientology?! If our clergy were doing their jobs that would be an afterthought as would other secular ‘religions’. People are searching and the Church is in hiding. There are probably things that they can do that I have not even thought of - I shouldn’t be the idea person here! They should be banging their heads as to ideas how to bring people back into the fold and stop helping islam/muslims out - a death cult!
Personally, I think the current Pope hit it on the mark about the change to secular music, language, etc all had a negative effect on the Church. I don’t like the one gal who sings in our church - in fact, it irritates me whenever she opens her cakehole. She has a beautiful voice - but I find it all very boring that she trumpets her voice while most just sit there in ‘braindead’ mode. It is a sort of a very, weird way that the people are being left out. Our church has a pretty large congregation too. But that is not the case everywhere.
As for the Pals voting in hamas - a known terrorist group - or Hezbollah in Lebanon that is another known terrorist group - I would say that we fall so short on the propaganda front that we are pathetic. We could do more there - and even the Church could do more in the propaganda front.
As for any area in the USA allowing Sharia law - that tells me that our lawmakers, politicians, and regular folks are clueless as to what sharia law says about our non-muslim rights. It is so totally against the constitution that I don’t even know where to begin. If they want a modified sharia law - then tell them that civil law - we will practice our laws and within their church - they can practice sharia law. And if the two clash - our civil laws outweigh their sharia law. To even think that sharia law is superior, or should be considered as a law in any segment of our land, shows we are so very ignorant of it.
Personally, I think it should be banned outright everywhere - but I know that muslims are grouping together so their voting power is stronger and so they can practice sharia law without us watching them. (this is a tactic that they have used in so many countries, along with uncontrolled birth rates, etc)
Anyway - I don’t have all the answers, and I know that I can be more radical than most, but the only ones I see doing something are ex-muslims! They know the danger. Well, Brigette Gabriel is not an ex-muslims, but a Lebanonese Christian who also knows the very, real problem of islam and its problems for us since she fled Lebanon and lived in a bomb shelter for about 10 years of her life with her parents in Lebanon. She knows how her country was before and after.
OH, and another comment about us allowing them to build up a so called Democracy in places - it is a joke. We think it is oh, so neat that they can vote and then vote for thugs/terrorists. I say - it is our money being thrown at them and they accept it - so yes, we should have a say about their governments. When they want to decline our jizya payments then they can be left to their own devices and if they misbehave - then sanctions should be used to control their violence. It is like the poorest behaved of children that we are dealing with. And OUR OWN politicians, and judges/lawyers, should be required to learn the koran, sharia law, etc. Then they wouldn’t be even hinting that it is a consideration to let go in any community!
) and many will eventually convert to islam in order to stave off humiliation and chaos/death/torture in their lives - and many will never know Christ.