Catholics and Muslims

[Kouyate42]

So basically, everything I said stands in regard to you not having the training to make such a claim.

I wish you much success in finding the Truth, as it seems you are seeking it in your own way. There is only one Truth, so this is not an “all roads lead to heaven” statement.

Keep hammering at it.

Eventually, hopefully, you’ll see the nails, the face, and Cross and praise God for His awesome Grace and Mercy, and most importantly- Love.

I have said this before and I will say it again: I will never return to a church ever again. This I can say with certainty.

 

[adoglover1956]

I have said this before and I will say it again: I will never return to a church ever again. This I can say with certainty.

I feel very sad for you then.

 

[aschaefer]

:thumbsup:Thanks everyone! If my son’s engagement has taught me anything, it’s that Muslims are great people and that God wants me to understand that His love is so great. Perhaps I am to learn that although I am loved, so are all of His other children, regardless of religion.

 

[Trebor135]

I have said this before and I will say it again: I will never return to a church ever again. This I can say with certainty.

(It’s possible you missed my earlier post.) I’m genuinely interested as to what you see as the strongest objections are to the Christian faith. You are not under an obligation to respond.

 

[Marybeloved]

I have said this before and I will say it again: I will never return to a church ever again. This I can say with certainty.

I doubt it very much. Just in December you said some very, very nasty things about Islam (and Muhammad) and its complete invalidity to me. And might I add, you were just as “certain” about your views and decisions in that regard as you express here.

Somehow I think this confusion you display about religion may still be used by God eventually.

Peace

 

[PumpkinSeed]

I consider myself male even though I am biologically female, as I am transgendered.

Quick question- if you are a transgender why would you wear a hijab? Assuming youre a transgender, you probably dress and style your hair as a mans, right?

 

[PumpkinSeed]

:thumbsup:Thanks everyone! If my son’s engagement has taught me anything, it’s that Muslims are great people and that God wants me to understand that His love is so great. Perhaps I am to learn that although I am loved, so are all of His other children, regardless of religion.

Yes, God loves everyone, but as a Christian, you should know that Islam is not the truth. So, yes you should be worried for your sons salvation, as he obviously doesn’t have any if he is a muslim. Muslims don’t accept Jesus as the savior, so they are not saved, and we all know where people go when they are not saved. I will pray for your son. And I am not saying this to scare you, but you needed an honest answer and you got it. I truly hope someday your son sees the light again.

 

[Eric_Hyom]

PumpkinSeed;
you should be worried for your sons salvation, as he obviously doesn’t have any if he is a muslim.

We will be judged in the way that we judge others.

Blessings

Eric

 

[GaryTaylor]

We will be judged in the way that we judge others.

Blessings

Eric

We already been through this whole judging aspect apparently you know more than the Catholic links I posted for you on this topic.

Remember the post where you were “judging” me while telling other not to judge.

Peace

 

[PumpkinSeed]

We will be judged in the way that we judge others.

Blessings

Eric

Judging? I thought it was fact? Since when do Muslims have the salvation of Christ?

It is contrary to their beliefs.

 

[Pitcharan]

I think most people on here don’t dislike muslims. In fact, as catholics, I hope we all LOVE muslims the same way that Jesus loves each of us.

I personally don’t agree with the Muslim beliefs that differ from the belief’s of Christ’s one true church (such as the belief that Christ, Himself, is not the risen Lord). I would argue that I perhaps even hate these beliefs since they are putting the spiritual salvaging of a 1,000,000,000+ muslims at risk.

More than the likes and dislikes of people here, what disturbs me is the stand taken by this Forum which is contrary to their own policy and rules. They are insensitive to uncharitable posts and don’t respond or react even if we bring it to their notice.

I came across this shockingly uncharitable post and immediately notified the Moderator. There is no sign of any action coming forth.
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=8972647#post8972647

Muslims are hypocrites. If the Bible states something supporting their beliefs then its not corrupt but if it states something which does not support them then they say its corrupt.
Islam is a false and violent religion and Mohammed was Satan’s best disciple.

 

[GaryTaylor]

Personally I believe they do a wonderful job in a difficult area such as this one.

Perhaps its not an area for the faint of heart when many faiths come together to dialogue, However that is how truth is reached. By difficult and honest confrontation, not by throwing flowers at one another.

Peace

 

[Pitcharan]

Personally I believe they do a wonderful job in a difficult area such as this one.

Perhaps its not an area for the faint of heart when many faiths come together to dialogue, However that is how truth is reached. By difficult and honest confrontation, not by throwing flowers at one another.

Peace

Can you support your belief with some good example. The issue here is not about reaching truth or throwing flowers, but adhering to FORUM RULES.

 

[wwolverine]

When I was first studying Catholicism, about 8 to 10 years ago, I was torn between Islam and Christianity. I admired the Muslim simplicity in faith, belief and adherence to the tenets of their faith and their lack of human respect (That is, not caring so much what people thought of them, but rather what God, per their understanding, thought of them). But ONE thing kept me ABSOLUTELY from being able to become a Muslim- One thing alone. I knew that I would have to accept (believe) that Christ was nothing more than a Prophet .

Worldly and even pagan as I was (unbaptized and still searching for truth), That was something that I simply could not do. Deny Christ? As not being God himself? Never! Even then, I knew enough to know that Christ was no ordinary/regular/great Prophet, no mere Saint. He was God. I thank God that he allowed me to know that.

No amount of beauty, goodness or other wonderful characteristics in other faiths come anywhere near Jesus Christ. If Christianity consisted of nothing but him alone, and consisted of nothing else, not the beautiful liturgies, sacraments, prayers, devotions, traditions, sacred Art,mysticism, martyrs and saints etc, but Jesus Christ Alone, it would STILL be the only option- The ONLY ONE!

Amen. that was a wonderful description. God Bless

 

[Daralharb]

More than the likes and dislikes of people here, what disturbs me is the stand taken by this Forum which is contrary to their own policy and rules. They are insensitive to uncharitable posts and don’t respond or react even if we bring it to their notice.

I came across this shockingly uncharitable post and immediately notified the Moderator. There is no sign of any action coming forth.
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=8972647#post8972647

The post you reported was nothing other than TRUE. And no forum rules were violated that I can see. They ARE hypocrites the way they cite a “corrupt” text and then say it can’t be trusted because it is corrupted. That dualism. THAT is Islam’s typical nature.

And Thistle is now suspended for telling the truth it seems. Hope you’re happy.

Bloody 'L, talking about charity while acting like a thief of the concept?

And the issue here IS ABOUT REACHING TRUTH!

 

[Lapell]

The koran is NOT a direct revelation by allah. If you take the islamic teachings, it is claimed that an angel revealed these so called “revelations” to mohamad.

Allah never spoke to mohamad.

God speaks to all of his prophets. God does not and has never sent Angel Gabriel to be his mouthpiece to reveal "revelations.

Gabriels job in the Bible is to pass on a message and return to God.

God is not the author of confusion.

Now this is rather a strange thing to say since the prophets received their messages from God through angels, as the passage in Isaiah about his personal vocation shows. And what about the angel delivering a message from God to John in the Book of Revelation?

 

[Lapell]

I cannot see how. The Qur’an is clear that Abraham built the Kaa’ba.

I thought the Ka’aba was the Rock itself, and the building Al-Aqsa mosque!

 

[Daralharb]

I thought the Ka’aba was the Rock itself, and the building Al-Aqsa mosque!

Totally different.

Aqsa = Mosque on Temple Mount, Dome of the Rock, another Mosque of sorts.

Both are 666 nautical miles from Kaaba. DOR= 666.70, Aqsa = 666.58

Confirmed with Google earth.

Screen capture of K to DOR: i41.tinypic.com/2jsbb6.png

 

[Kouyate42]

I doubt it very much. Just in December you said some very, very nasty things about Islam (and Muhammad) and its complete invalidity to me. And might I add, you were just as “certain” about your views and decisions in that regard as you express here.

Somehow I think this confusion you display about religion may still be used by God eventually.

Peace

A number of things have happened to change my mind quite clearly. I ask Allah for His forgiveness for any insults I have aimed towards the true deen of Islam.

Quick question- if you are a transgender why would you wear a hijab? Assuming youre a transgender, you probably dress and style your hair as a mans, right?

At present not a single person IRL knows I’m transgendered, and so I have to act as a Muslimah. That means hijaab.

 

[jakasaki]

Originally Posted by jakasaki
The koran is NOT a direct revelation by allah. If you take the islamic teachings, it is claimed that an angel revealed these so called “revelations” to mohamad.

Allah never spoke to mohamad.

God speaks to all of his prophets. God does not and has never sent Angel Gabriel to be his mouthpiece to reveal "revelations.

Gabriels job in the Bible is to pass on a message and return to God.

God is not the author of confusion.

Now this is rather a strange thing to say since the prophets received their messages from God through angels, as the passage in Isaiah about his personal vocation shows. And what about the angel delivering a message from God to John in the Book of Revelation?

I understand what you are saying here.

The 2 examples you used for Isaiah & St. John as examples of messages/revelations given to them by The Angels of God. OK, no argument there.

Gabriel in the NT, first went to Elizabeths husband to announce the upcoming birth of St. John The Baptist. He said… “fear not”… and gave him the message

Message was delivered and Gabriel returned to God.

Then Gabriel went to Mary to deliver the message of the Birth of Our Lord Jesus Christ. Again… he said … “fear not”… and gave her the message

Message was delivered and Gabriel returned to God.

My post above in the quote, has to do with Gabriel revealing 23 years of revelations as the prophet of Islam started a new movement/religion/ideology.

This is out of character of the Gabriel we know from the Bible. Gabriels job was to deliver a message(s) and return to God.

God is not the author of confusion.

One of two things can be true.

The New Testament with Gabriel announcing the Birth of Our Lord Jesus Christ and He will be the Son of The Most High

Or

The koran which denies that Jesus Christ is Son of The Most High.