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whatevergirl
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Why do you put more weight into a homosexual’s sex act, from a mortal sin standpoint, than perhaps a heterosexual person who commits adultery? I’m sure God weeps on both occasions.
Catholics only: Do you hate homosexual sex acts (as we are obliged to)?
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goofyjim
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Exactly. Any unrepented mortal sin will cause one to rot in hell, not just homosexual acts. And mortal sins include fornication, adultery, and contraception. For those who think the homosexuals are the only ones going there, rethink it because they might have alot of company.
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whatevergirl
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I have heard this a lot…even in former social circles that my husband and I used to hang out with–this notion that heterosexuals are somehow elevated beyond homosexuals–from a sin standpoint. Notice I wrote ‘former.’
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estesbob
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I am not dancing around anything it is not possible for a heterosexual couple to engage in a homosexual act
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RomanCrusader
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Homosexual acts are a blatant atrocity.
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whatevergirl
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true. so, is heterosexual sex outside of marriage, and other heterosexual acts that don’t coincide with God’s laws.
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Neil_Anthony
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“Do you hate homosexual sex acts”
Yes, but no more or less than illicit heterosexual sex acts.
Yes, but no more or less than illicit heterosexual sex acts.
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jabelltulsa
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Homosexual are terrible, and they mock God’s creation.
However, I have, in my life, met and befriended many homosexual people. I don’t really think of what they do, for the most part, while I’m around them. Most of the homosexual people I have met and been friends with are people that I am very fond of.
I just hate what they do. It’s important to me to offer my counsel if it the door is opened, but I haven’t had many opportunities to talk in that manner.
It saddens me.
However, I have, in my life, met and befriended many homosexual people. I don’t really think of what they do, for the most part, while I’m around them. Most of the homosexual people I have met and been friends with are people that I am very fond of.
I just hate what they do. It’s important to me to offer my counsel if it the door is opened, but I haven’t had many opportunities to talk in that manner.
It saddens me.
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goofyjim
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Then your definition of a homosexual act is different than mine. Oral sex or anal to me is a homosexual act whether it is perpetrated by two men or a heterosexual couple.
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goofyjim
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I am a person with SSA. I do not act on it but accept myself as a homosexual. I do not “mock” God’s creation. I am part of God’s creation and all that He created He saw as good.
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goofyjim
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:clapping:
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rboo124
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I agree with your post, aside from the ‘homosexual are terrible’ comment. I too have had several gay friends in my lifetime. I’m almost afraid to have my opinion because I WASN’T born homosexual.
Can you imagine being born homosexual and unable to express your sexual desires? I do not believe that gay people deliberately CHOOSE their sexual orientation.
Yes, it is a sin to carry out a homosexual act. In many ways, I view it more as a handicap. People born with birth defects are never insulted for their handicaps, but the homosexual community is. I’m grateful I wasn’t born a gay man in today’s society because not only is it an ‘outcast’ culture, but I can only imagine the temptation I’d go through and who knows if I’d fail miserably?
Gay people have no more chosen their sexual preference than a blind person has chosen his eyes to not see or a deaf person has has chosen his ears to not hear. I don’t for one minute believe that gay people ‘choose’ their sexual orientation and feel that anyone who assumes that is practicing ignorance.
God hates sin but loves each and every one of us. There is a line that society needs to tow in regards to homosexuality and so far they have dealt with it from one extreme to the other, IMO.
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blessedtoo
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Can you imagine being born a heterosexual and unable to espress your sexuality because you never marry? You seem to desperately want to elevate the cross of the homosexual above all others. What about the war vet who comes home paralyzed and can no longer express his sexuality with his wife? Or married couples who must abstain because a spouse has AIDS? Those of us who are living a chaste life (celibate in some cases), can attest that “expressing our sexuality” is not the end all and be all. In fact, being free of the need for this type of expression is liberating and allows for spiritual growth that might otherwise have not been achieved.
I think you must be stuck in the late 70’s because in my world (which has the second largest population of gay people) the insult is directed at CHRISTIANS who oppose homosexual behavior. On TV, in film, in all forms of media, the homosexual is completely normalized and even, in some cases, celebrated. The “outcast” culture today are the Christan conservatives who dare to speak out against this indoctrination.
As someone who was in the lifestyle, I can testify that there are many “gay” people who have, in fact, chosen to pursue same sex relationships. I chose to be with women as an alternative to men after feminism brainwashed me into believing all men were dogs. My older sister, influenced by my example, chose, in her late 30’s, to be with women after many failed relationships with men. Every gay man I have ever known (with only a few exceptions), has experienced opposite gender attractions and relations. Several gay friends were engaged to be married to woman when they decided they preferred being with men. Two former lesbian friends were both engaged to men when they decided they preferred women. “Preferred” is the operative word here.
Then what do you suggest society do? We already have one state that has completely redefined marriage and several more that will continue to try to legislate for the same. Our children are being taught that having two mommies or two daddies is simply an “alternative” family arrangement. MTV, the cesspool of pop culture and a favortie among American youth airs dating shows for lesbians, gays, and bisexuals. So what is your solution?
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rjcode6
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I guess I don’t try having thoughts of homosexual sex acts and thus I don’t really have an opinion on the matter. But I would like to quote an old acquaintance that was gay and he said “He who yells “Gay” the loudest usually is.” 
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rboo124
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I don’t want to elevate the burden of the homosexual at all. I just think some people need to realize there is a burden. I’ll be sure to express my compassion for war veterans when I see a thread dedicated to discussing their strengths/shortcomings.
I thought I made clear that I’m not referring to those who ‘chose’ homosexuality as you ‘chose’ to. That, to me, holds very little room for sympathy or compassion. People that ‘choose’ homosexuality are deliberately straying from God’s will for us. It’s nothing short of a ‘if it feels good, do it’ mentality. That to me is nothing but self-centered evil. Perhaps if God’s will for us was followed to begin with, there would be less women embracing hardcore feminism, less people in failed relationships and the numbers for ‘chosen’ episodes of homosexual behavior would decline. I was born with two strong legs…I’m not going to ‘choose’ a wheelchair because I’m too lazy to walk.
I’ve never hung around the population of ‘chosen’ homosexual offenders. I’ve befriended ‘born’ homosexuals, people who preferred members of their own sex as long as they remember being attracted to another human being. They didn’t ‘choose’ this attraction because it was the ‘cool’ thing to do at a party when they’re wasted, or because they wanted to experience all the things we were told not to by God in an attempt rebel. These are gay people…well aware of the conflict they have to endure by making an effort to avoid partaking in a sin that for what ever reason is tempting to them.
Just as I have a temptation for alcohol and drugs, I am aware it’s a sin and I steer clear, though I am a recovering alcoholic and drug abuser. For those who’ve never triggered their addiction, God Bless and good job. For those who have, you know that ‘itch’ never goes away. What about people born with the ‘itch’ who of no fault of theirs and have never scratched it? To them I have the utmost respect for their faith and self control. God Bless them and great job!
I’m not ‘lessening’ the sin, I think I’ve made that clear, also. But, kudos from me when anyone is able to avoid sins of the flesh and lives with temptation.
I thought I made clear that I’m not referring to those who ‘chose’ homosexuality as you ‘chose’ to. That, to me, holds very little room for sympathy or compassion. People that ‘choose’ homosexuality are deliberately straying from God’s will for us. It’s nothing short of a ‘if it feels good, do it’ mentality. That to me is nothing but self-centered evil. Perhaps if God’s will for us was followed to begin with, there would be less women embracing hardcore feminism, less people in failed relationships and the numbers for ‘chosen’ episodes of homosexual behavior would decline. I was born with two strong legs…I’m not going to ‘choose’ a wheelchair because I’m too lazy to walk.
I’ve never hung around the population of ‘chosen’ homosexual offenders. I’ve befriended ‘born’ homosexuals, people who preferred members of their own sex as long as they remember being attracted to another human being. They didn’t ‘choose’ this attraction because it was the ‘cool’ thing to do at a party when they’re wasted, or because they wanted to experience all the things we were told not to by God in an attempt rebel. These are gay people…well aware of the conflict they have to endure by making an effort to avoid partaking in a sin that for what ever reason is tempting to them.
Just as I have a temptation for alcohol and drugs, I am aware it’s a sin and I steer clear, though I am a recovering alcoholic and drug abuser. For those who’ve never triggered their addiction, God Bless and good job. For those who have, you know that ‘itch’ never goes away. What about people born with the ‘itch’ who of no fault of theirs and have never scratched it? To them I have the utmost respect for their faith and self control. God Bless them and great job!
I’m not ‘lessening’ the sin, I think I’ve made that clear, also. But, kudos from me when anyone is able to avoid sins of the flesh and lives with temptation.
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Jestocost
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Is then any sexual activity that a homosexual couple can engage in a “homosexual act” forbidden to heterosexual couples?
If not does that mean that sexual activity between members of the same sex excluding these two things are not “homosexual acts”?
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rboo124
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I don’t understand how oral sex between a man and a woman can be construed as ‘homosexual’? No sexual act between a man and woman is ‘homosexual’…that just doesn’t fit the definition. It can be ‘unnatural’ or ‘illicit’, but not ‘homosexual’…?
Also, why is oral sex considered by some to be illicit? Many women do not reach climax from intercourse alone…I certainly don’t think God would make a climax attainable for a woman, yet ban the act from being performed on her. Is a woman’s pleasure and satisfaction of no importance? God has his reasons for making a woman’s parts the way he did, and if women were not intended to have sexual climax, they wouldn’t be equipped to do so.
I consider anal sex illicit, but I certainly don’t consider it illicit to ensure that my wife achieves the same sexual satisfaction that I do. Leaving a woman sexually frustrated is a self-centered act, imo. Sex is supposed to be an expression of love between a husband and wife and the means for pro-creation…not a selfish act for the husband to ‘use’ the wife’s body for.
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deb1
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We’ve had numerous threads on oral sex and the I haven’t seen anything posted on the Church itself being for or against the act within marriage. The threads simply go on and on with people’s opinion. The OP though deserves to have his original question answered.
Homosexual acts are sinful and should be pointed out as being so. A person who simply as homosexual urges is not sinning if he doesn’t act on those urges. This would be very difficult and such a person needs a lot of help to be celibate.
We tend to go to extremes in our society. The same is true of the view on homosexuals. SOme people think that homosexuality is not a sin and should be almost pushed down others throats. While others believe that the homosexual should be treated as some sort of leper.
We have to be careful that we don’t follow either extreme.
Homosexual acts are sinful and should be pointed out as being so. A person who simply as homosexual urges is not sinning if he doesn’t act on those urges. This would be very difficult and such a person needs a lot of help to be celibate.
We tend to go to extremes in our society. The same is true of the view on homosexuals. SOme people think that homosexuality is not a sin and should be almost pushed down others throats. While others believe that the homosexual should be treated as some sort of leper.
We have to be careful that we don’t follow either extreme.
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estesbob
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Which is anohter attempt by the homosexual lobby to stifle discussion on the issue. The ffirst line of defense is to declare anyone who criticizes their behavior as homophobic bigots. The second line of defense is to claim that anyone who criticizes their behavior is probably a closet homosexual. Both assertions are utter nonsense.I guess I don’t try having thoughts of homosexual sex acts and thus I don’t really have an opinion on the matter. But I would like to quote an old acquaintance that was gay and he said “He who yells “Gay” the loudest usually is.”
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estesbob
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As long as the man climaxes in his wifes vagina AND they are both comfortable with whatever they do prior to climax it is licit. Given the the inherent filthiness of anal sex it would be difficult if not impossible to use this as foreplay.
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