Catholics; tell me the wrongs in my protestant church!

[josie_L]

Satan cannot make Christ or The Lord God Almighty appear. I have seen both at the same time. They are identical in all ways. I have seen what I have seen. I bring you the truth, but you believe that satan has made me a false prophet. The scriptures warn me, that this will happen. I have glorified God. Who are you glorifying?

Here is a very simple question, in order to test your ‘spiritual wisdom’. The Lord God Almighty created the angels and man. He ‘begot’ Jesus. What was done differently? Why the use of the different ‘terms’? I know the answer. This is one of the very many ‘pieces of wisdom’ that I was given. Explain to me the difference in regards to the above two terms.

No person except Moses ever saw God (and that only as a burning bush). Furthermore, Satan can claim to be whomever he chooses (there shall be many and have been already many false prophets, teachers and even Christs just like you who have been destroyed because they were deceived) and it states so in the Bible that he will lead many astray.

 

[josie_L]

I know nothing about them.

Why don’t you read up on them and tell me what you think?

 

[josie_L]

Sorry…wrong answer.

No it’s not. And just remember the Devil knows scripture as well (probably exponentially better than you as he’s been around far longer and as had time to devise plans to manipulate and tear apart the Word of God you claim to love).

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

Zundrah, do you know that you have FIVE THREADS on this Non-Catholic Religions forum alone? Geeminee Christmas?

 

[Thorwald]

Thorwald, there have been many accounts from saints where the devil has appeared to them as jesus or the virgin mary in order to try and trick them. This is not a new trick from the devil. I’m not saying the dream you had was evil but it is a big possibility.

I have not been tricked by satan. Everything that I was shown, was tied in by God, to the scriptures. There are errors in the scriptures. I can now easily pick them out. He did not change the scriptures as they are written, except for the understanding of The Trinity & The Godhead, and who has or hasn’t seen God. When you use the understanding that He gave unto me (and I, in turn, have given unto you), the ‘mystery’ disappears. The lost word, is not very important. Much of it is the same as what still remains. It is simply another way of saying the same thing. One thing that was revealed unto me, however, that is very important, is that the majority of God’s Word is true both carnally & spiritually. In other words, you do not have to try to differentiate between them. Most ministers of God’s Word try to differentiate.

 

[josie_L]

Thorwald, there have been many accounts from saints where the devil has appeared to them as jesus or the virgin mary in order to try and trick them. This is not a new trick from the devil. I’m not saying the dream you had was evil but it is a big possibility.

Yes, I have read/heard of this too.

 

[Louie1983]

I have not been tricked by satan. Everything that I was shown, was tied in by God, to the scriptures. There are errors in the scriptures. I can now easily pick them out. He did not change the scriptures as they are written, except for the understanding of The Trinity & The Godhead, and who has or hasn’t seen God. When you use the understanding that He gave unto me (and I, in turn, have given unto you), the ‘mystery’ disappears. The lost word, is not very important. Much of it is the same as what still remains. It is simply another way of saying the same thing. One thing that was revealed unto me, however, that is very important, is that the majority of God’s Word is true both carnally & spiritually. In other words, you do not have to try to differentiate between them. Most ministers of God’s Word try to differentiate.

Sorry Thorwald but i believe the message you have is false. There are no erros in scriptures or the traditions of the catholic church. You can only pick out what is error to you because you cannot understand r have a evry twisted understanding of them.

The catholic church does not differentiate between god’s word and teachings. The catholic church has kept the same teaching for 2000 years and will do so for the next 2000 years. You are on very dangerous ground thorwald, be extremely carefull. The things you are saying are almost blasphemous!

 

[josie_L]

I have not been tricked by satan. Everything that I was shown, was tied in by God, to the scriptures. There are errors in the scriptures. I can now easily pick them out. He did not change the scriptures as they are written, except for the understanding of The Trinity & The Godhead, and who has or hasn’t seen God. When you use the understanding that He gave unto me (and I, in turn, have given unto you), the ‘mystery’ disappears. The lost word, is not very important. Much of it is the same as what still remains. It is simply another way of saying the same thing. One thing that was revealed unto me, however, that is very important, is that the majority of God’s Word is true both carnally & spiritually. In other words, you do not have to try to differentiate between them. Most ministers of God’s Word try to differentiate.

Every other false prophet as said the same thing you have said. You are being force fed lies that look deceptively like truth only because that is what he wishes you to see. Read what the early Church fathers had to say on the matter of the trinity and other such essential doctrines of the Church.

 

[josie_L]

Sorry Thorwald but i believe the message you have is false. There are no erros in scriptures or the traditions of the catholic church. You can only pick out what is error to you because you cannot understand r have a evry twisted understanding of them.

The catholic church does not differentiate between god’s word and teachings. The catholic church has kept the same teaching for 2000 years and will do so for the next 2000 years. You are on very dangerous ground thorwald, be extremely carefull. The things you are saying are almost blasphemous!

He believes himself to be a prophet of God even though the Bible expressly states that no other revelations after what was revealed and delivered by the apostles is from God.

 

[Thorwald]

Yes, I have read/heard of this too.

Please understand, that this was my first and greatest fear. I went to God in prayer, constantly, throughout the six years of ‘training’, that I experienced. He opened up His whole Word to me, criss-crossing scriptures all over the place (O/T-N/T, O/T-O/T, N/T-N/T). Even now, I receive new understanding ‘on and off’. The knowledge is unexpected, and comes at most times, when I am not even thinking of the topic being ‘unveiled’. No one has any idea of what I’ve gone through in the last six years. I had to ‘experience’ many of the things that He was teaching me (ie. lies, betrayal, etc., etc.) and then He would direct me to the scriptures concerning these things. In other words, I was trained very well. I had experienced the feelings, as well as given the words.

Before I began my ‘learning’ (right after my acceptance of this ‘job’), He asked me, “Do you think that you can handle it?” I answered Him, “Yes.” Then it all started. I had no idea what I had just agreed to.

 

[Louie1983]

He believes himself to be a prophet of God even though the Bible expressly states that no other revelations after what was revealed and delivered by the apostles is from God.

Pray for him!

 

[Thorwald]

Pray for him!

I have given you no new revelations (ie. no new Word). I have been given an understanding of what has been given to us previously. That is all.

 

[Louie1983]

I have given you no new revelations (ie. no new Word). I have been given an understanding of what has been given to us previously. That is all.

No Thorwald, your claiming to be a prophet from god and your claiming that the teaching of Jesus christ’ catholic church for the last 2000 years has been incorrect. This is a grave sin and error from your part. Your situation just falls perfectly into the plan of the devil!

I’ll be praying for you.

 

[josie_L]

Please understand, that this was my first and greatest fear. I went to God in prayer, constantly, throughout the six years of ‘training’, that I experienced. He opened up His whole Word to me, criss-crossing scriptures all over the place (O/T-N/T, O/T-O/T, N/T-N/T). Even now, I receive new understanding ‘on and off’. The knowledge is unexpected, and comes at most times, when I am not even thinking of the topic being ‘unveiled’. No one has any idea of what I’ve gone through in the last six years. I had to ‘experience’ many of the things that He was teaching me (ie. lies, betrayal, etc., etc.) and then He would direct me to the scriptures concerning these things. In other words, I was trained very well. I had experienced the feelings, as well as given the words.

It should still be your greatest fear as your soul is at stake. And it doesn’t amount to a hill of beans that you have trained for six years, you were not given the authority to interpret scripture, and once you get that through your head, you will see the light. You are being used. Please pray to God for guidance and with love ask him to make you humble enough to submit to the authority of his one true Church.

 

[Thorwald]

No Thorwald, your claiming to be a prophet from god and your claiming that the teaching of Jesus christ’ catholic church for the last 2000 years has been incorrect. This is a grave sin and error from your part. Your situation just falls perfectly into the plan of the devil!

I’ll be praying for you.

I use nothing but the Word of God, found in my Bible. How can this be of satan?

 

[Louie1983]

I use nothing but the Word of God, found in my Bible. How can this be of satan?

Your twisting the word of god and claiming that god is revealing the true interpretation to you. We have had the correct interpretation for the last 2000 years through the catholic church.

 

[josie_L]

I use nothing but the Word of God, found in my Bible. How can this be of satan?

You are being very naive and underestimating Satan. He can use anything even scripture to deceive you. What do you think the Gnostics, the Albigensians, the Nestorians, the Manicheans, the Arians were doing but creating falsehoods with the Bible as per Satan’s wicked instigation?

 

[Thorwald]

It should still be your greatest fear as your soul is at stake. And it doesn’t amount to a hill of beans that you have trained for six years, you were not given the authority to interpret scripture, and once you get that through your head, you will see the light. You are being used. Please pray to God for guidance and with love ask him to make you humble enough to submit to the authority of his one true Church.

Well, according to God, I am an Israelite, though I never knew this. My mother was Scotch and my Father was Norwegian. The British throne is an Israelite throne. You see, the Israelites have not ‘disappeared’. God began grafting them back in, when He ‘instigated’ the Protestant Reformation. Good luck with your prayers. I am up against every single religion on the face of this earth. He has shown me the ‘changes’ that various Christian Bibles contain. He is not a ‘happy camper’. All those that are involved with these ‘changes’ are going to be judged as false prophets.

MY JOB HERE IS DONE!

 

[Louie1983]

Well, according to God, I am an Israelite, though I never knew this. My mother was Scotch and my Father was Norwegian. The British throne is an Israelite throne. You see, the Israelites have not ‘disappeared’. God began grafting them back in, when He ‘instigated’ the Protestant Reformation. Good luck with your prayers. I am up against every single religion on the face of this earth. He has shown me the ‘changes’ that various Christian Bibles contain. He is not a ‘happy camper’. All those that are involved with these ‘changes’ are going to be judged as false prophets.
MY JOB HERE IS DONE!

Yourself included! goodbye.

 

[Liraco]

This is going nowhere.

Agreed, but that’s why I continue in my prayer for you.

the questions still remain.

Which would those be?

My visions and dream, are backed up by the scriptures.

No they’re not. Need I remind you of YOUR statement that the Bible is wrong in parts and that you say there is no trinity but rather 4 persons in the Godhead. You keep ignoring this point (a point **you **made).

I have not even started to list the various misunderstandings of scripture that man currently has.

No need, you show them in your posts. Denying scripture’s reliability and then going on to say you use His word to learn truth is a big contradiction that I will not let slide. You also deny Jesus’ words about “the gates of hell shall not prevail against it” when it comes to the Church which He founded. You can’t deny He founded a Church (Paul speaks of her all the time), unless you’re again denying scripture’s veracity.

I read through the N/T,twice, COMPLETELY, just to get the proper understanding of one ‘small item’.

I’m curious as to what that is. If you speak of errors, then in charity you should provide the correction. Perhaps that will allow me to see your truth.

I am posting on this forum, not for personal reasons, but rather, I am doing what God has asked me to do.

I couldn’t agree with you more, but rather than come to teach us, I think He sent you here to open your eyes to truth.

Thorwald:

He is well prepared to ‘infiltrate’ and ‘defile’ the righteous. Even the simple chastisement that Christ gave unto Peter (Get thee behind me, satan) should open your eyes.

I beg you to heed your own words. Don’t forget you once felt that you were being deceived.

Thorwald:

Here you go again, equating the Catholic Church to 'His Church’. There is only one Word of God. There are those that follow The Word of God (His Church), and those that do not. Those that follow a ‘changed word’ do not.

And this is the error I continue to pray that you come out of. The Catholic Church can be traced back to Peter whether you like it or not, because it IS the Church Jesus founded.

Thorwald:

You ignore all that I have written. You can have the most righteous Bible in the world, but if you add to it, by carrying out some act or words, that are not found in this Bible, you defile the Bible. Since the Word of God IS GOD, you will worship a different god.

I answer your every remark and yet you seem to be the one intent on ignoring anything uncomfortable I bring up. More importantly, you’re ignoring His word by substituting things on your own which you claim were revealed to you (and only you I assume).

I hope you’re not implying you worship the Bible. THAT is idolatry (unlike Catholics who worship only God, not the saints or Mary or idols as you falsely hold). I nor any real Catholic denies the Bible to be His inspired word, but saying that it IS God is a grave error. Jesus is the Word, not the Bible unless you’re taking “word” literally (another error).