The RCC says we can’t know that we have eternal life at any point before we die, nor will we actually have eternal life until some time after we die. Yet John writes these things about God’s testimony that we have eternal life, and he tells us he writes these things so that you may know that you have eternal life.
Not quite, my friend. Redemption was ans is assured by the life, death and ressurection of Christ. But Salvation and Redemption are NOT synomous words.
By Redeeming us Christ makes heaven POSSIBLE. But that by irself is not an assurence of salvation.
1 Peter 1: 8 Without having seen * him you * love him; though you do not now see him you believe in him and rejoice with unutterable and exalted joy. 9*** As the outcome of your faith you obtain the salvation of your souls***. 10 The prophets who prophesied of the grace that was to be yours searched and inquired about this salvation; 11 they inquired what person or time was indicated by the Spirit of Christ within them when predicting the sufferings of Christ and the subsequent glory. 12 It was revealed to them that they were serving not themselves but you, in the things which have now been announced to you by those who preached the good news to you through the Holy Spirit sent from heaven, things into which angels long to look. "
Remember that RCC doctrine is man’s testimony and 1 John is God’s testimony. Now refer to verse 9 (the one in magenta). “We accept man’s testimony, but God’s testimony is greater because it is the testimony of God, which he has given about his Son.” I would strongly advise against denying God’s testimony so that you can continue affirming man’s testimony. That doesn’t seem very sound. Instead, follow the example of the Bereans. When Paul was with them, they examined the Scriptures every day to see if what he said was true. They were praised for this. If the Bereans were praised for doing this when an apostle was physically present and talking right to them, you should definitely submit “apostolic tradition” to the authority of Scripture in the same way. Examine the Scriptures to see if what it says is true.
Nice try:blush: BUT,here (again) is the rest of the story…
1 John "
6 This is he who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ, not with the water only but with the water and the blood. 7 And the Spirit is the witness, because the Spirit is the truth. 8 There are three witnesses, the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree. 9 If we receive the testimony of men, the testimony of God is greater; for this is the testimony of God that he has borne witness to his Son.** 10* He who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself. He who does not believe God has made him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has borne to his Son. 11 And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 He who has the Son has life;** he who has not the Son of God has not life**.
It should go without saying that I do not welcome protests about “private interpretation.” The contents of 1 John are not the result of private interpretation. Its origin is in a man named John who spoke from God, and you will do well to pay attention to it. Deal with what is found there. That’s twice now that I’ve addressed the issue, so if you truly think I want to make it three, whatever is wrong with you is no small thing.
Same bible, same author, same book BUT the entire TRUTH!:tsktsk:
God bless you dear friend, and yes, I did answer your question!
John:3:16
Hello,you hit it right on the head. I stopped comming to this site because I was not treated by some, with love but anger. Jesus spoke to your insides to your heart not the outside with the sword,that’s how the Romans did it and we know from history they were wrong and unkind and chased other’s away to start their own religions in the world. Love of Christ Nancy God Bless Your Kindness. I hope others can see Jesus in you as I do .
Nancy