Catholics who vote for those who kill the innocent are-

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I don’t feel these situations are quite equivalent, but very well. I’ve made my case. Nothing more I can do.
 
I am a Catholic and a Democrat. How can we care for those not in this world yet if we don’t even care for those who are already here?

You cannot claim to be pro life while you support separating children from parents and putting children in cages. Jesus was an immigrant
 
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Trump is not pro-life and has only spread hatred more. Do not be

”Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.” - Matthew 7:15
 
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I am still a Catholic, but use to be a liberal Democrat. The first day I voted for a Republican I felt like I betrayed my background. Voted to save the children and will continue to do so. But right now Independent.
 
Capta(name removed by moderator)rudeman said:
This is all about voting. I’m not stupid, I know the Democrats support abortion laws. This is about Democrats, and no amount of “WELL TECHNICALLY” is going to change that.
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Of course it’s about voting.
But no one mentioned a party.
Well, you did.
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Something tells me that a priest’s personal opinions don’t automatically translate to the words of God.
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You have not heard the church teaching against abortion?
 
I am a liberal democrat. I do not vote by one issue.
 
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God says thou shall not bear false witness, and not commit adultry, and covet thy neighbors goods, or wife.

How does one automatically place thou shall not murder at the top of the list above all else and simplify voting to one issue like so many do?

Simple answer, because it is convenient to use the one issue as an excuse to overlook the other issues, that way they don’t have to defend how they can accept bad personal behavior for something that the individual politician can’t change.

Easy way out is never the right way. IMO.
 
President Trump has done more for the protection of innocent babies than any president we had. I think Ronald Reagan also stood for life. And tragically the democrats keep trying to destroy any good he does for our children… and that is factual.
 
Just read your bible and you will see what sins God detest and also read your catechism regarding sin, the commandments…you will see clearly the types of sins that bring God’s justice to a Nation.
 
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One has to look first at how the party one belongs to, believes then look at the individual politician. It’s the party platform that controls the party, NOT the individual politician.
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The priest was talking about voting though. We do not vote for platforms or parties, but people, that is individuals, in the United States. I know this is different in other countries, so it might make more sense elsewhere.
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Not me. I only vote for individuals in primaries and in non-party elections (like town & home owner association elections).

In general state & federal don’t vote for individuals, I only vote for platform & party.

(If I voted for individuals, there would have been no way I could have voted for Trump or Hillary)

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President Trump has done more for the protection of innocent babies than any president we had.
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You will have to give some examples of what he has done to protect innocent babies.

One can not instill respect for all life if one shows no respect for others or has no self respect for themselves. That is factual.
 
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Saving a life is never easy. People who save others many times give up their own lives. It is not an easy way out to save the unborn. We have great lay leaders who have given their lives for pro life issues. They march, they lobby work exhausting hours helping women who are with child. Far from an easy way out to vote for someone who wants to save life and not destroy it.
 
  1. who said we support separating children from parents and putting children in cages? HOWEVER, children are separated from their parents every time a parent breaks the law and is sent to jail.
  2. I’ve listened to a Catholic immigrant from Mexico say that the reason for the separation (which this Mexican totally agrees with) is because a lot of kids are kidnapped or with people claiming to be their parents who are not. So they seperate the kids until they can sort out who are the correct parents. NOW, I have NO IDEA what the true percentages of this are, however this was started under OBAMA - not Trump.
  3. We, the people, CAN care for everyone on this planet. If we stop expecting corrupt govts of the world to do it and if we, the people, do it though charities - then we CAN support all of the poor across the world. Look at the tax returns of some of the rich, democratic leaders in the United States. Many of them have ZERO charitable denotations, other than to a political PAC or an arts program. VERY FEW of them donate to charities that help the poor.
  4. We need to view govt as the problem and not the solution. Govts are naturally corrupt and naturally incompetent/inefficient.
 
Better…I will ask all the pro lifers to give you the examples of what Trump has tried to do and what the democrats have tried to destroy. Better for me to pray and fast than continue opinions on dems and republicans.
 
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  1. who said we support separating children from parents and putting children in cages? HOWEVER, children are separated from their parents every time a parent breaks the law and is sent to jail.
If immigrants are seeking asylum they are not breaking the law. Learn the law.
  1. I’ve listened to a Catholic immigrant from Mexico say that the reason for the separation (which this Mexican totally agrees with) is because a lot of kids are kidnapped or with people claiming to be their parents who are not. So they seperate the kids until they can sort out who are the correct parents. NOW, I have NO IDEA what the true percentages of this are, however this was started under OBAMA - not Trump.
Complete lie. But I guess if folks say it enough they think it is the truth. It isn’t.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...t-he-stopped-obamas-family-separation-policy/
  1. We, the people, CAN care for everyone on this planet. If we stop expecting corrupt govts of the world to do it and if we, the people, do it though charities - then we CAN support all of the poor across the world. Look at the tax returns of some of the rich, democratic leaders in the United States. Many of them have ZERO charitable denotations, other than to a political PAC or an arts program. VERY FEW of them donate to charities that help the poor.
And, why do you single out dems. You think maybe there are some reps. that don’t give to charity or have you looked at all of their tax returns?
  1. We need to view govt as the problem and not the solution. Govts are naturally corrupt and naturally incompetent/inefficient.
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Governments are a direct reflection of the people who vote the politicians into office.
 
Dolphin said:
Jesus was an immigrant
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People repeat this as fact but it’s technically incorrect.

The Holy Family were “subjects” of the Roman Empire who moved to the Roman Province of Aegyptus. It would be like moving from Ohio to California.
 
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If we really wanted to stop abortions we would do everything we could on every front - not just the criminal penalty front. For example, we could reduce the incentive for many to get abortions by convincing them that we support their pregnancy by providing free prenatal services and delivery services to all, rich and poor alike, regardless of complications. But of course that might involve raising taxes, and we certainly don’t want to do that, right?
 
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