Cdl. Dolan: The Democrats abandon Catholics

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“I remember my own grandmother whispering to me, “We Catholics don’t trust those Republicans.”

Such is no longer the case, a cause of sadness to many Catholics, me included. The two causes so vigorously promoted by Hughes and Grier—the needs of poor and middle-class children in Catholic schools, and the right to life of the baby in the womb—largely have been rejected by the party of our youth. An esteemed pro-life Democrat in Illinois, Rep. Dan Lipinski, effectively was blacklisted by his own party. Last year, Democratic National Committee Chairman Tom Perez insisted that pro-life candidates have no place in the modern Democratic Party.”
 
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Cardinal Dolan’s article can be found here without requiring a subscription. One can only hope that sooner rather than later more Catholics will accept the truth of his observations.

He also referred to this incident as an example of the difference between the left and the right.
 
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Thanks for the free link, I didn’t realize that required a subscription.
 
The fact is that 25% of Democrats are pro-life; that’s millions of people being left out in the cold by their own party. There are only a handful of pro-life Democrats left to even vote for. Time for a Christian Democratic third party…
 
Eh, Christian Democrat parties haven’t faired too well historically. Merkel is currently selling her country out under that guise.
 
I have to admit my ignorance where it comes to German politics. I only know that the theory behind Christian Democracy (conservative on social issues, leaning liberal on economic issues) is something I could get behind.
 
Yeah that tends to be what leads to ruin. Economic liberalism bankrupts countries.
 
When I say leaning left on economics, I mean something along the lines Nordic Model of capitalism: robust free markets but with high taxation and generous social services. It works.
 
Yes, this is sad. I realized I could not stay a Democrat around 2012 I guess due to a variety of things - prochoice, pro gay marriage, watching the Obama adminstration (which I voted for twice) sue the Little Sisters of the Poor, transgender bathrooms, threatening to withdraw funds from school systems that declined to get on board with the new policy. This is unprecedented, ugly radicalization on the left, supported by mainstream media, fueled in part by the media, corporate electronic media especially, Google, Facebook, etc. Really crazy stuff. I wonder if this is what it was like under Robespierre. 😊 Tyranny of equality, tolerance. Oh, and of course it’s also ‘cool’ - you are an outcast if you are not on board. History I suspect will take a clearer, darker view of all of this, assuming we outlive it as a culture, country.
 
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It only works there because they’re sitting on an ocean of oil and have their national defense subsidized by the United States military. Once fossil fuels are replaced or become too cheap their model will collapse.
 
Well Norway certainly has a lot of oil but I don’t think that explains the rest of those countries’ economic success. Far from being single-industry economies, they are highly diversified.

But, as this is not an economics forum, I’ll leave it at that–you have your views and I’ll have mine.
 
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The US system prevents that. How often do third parties succeed?
I would welcome such a party in my own country. I’m envious the Dutch has the Christian Union. It’s anti-abortion, for keeping the definition marriage as one man and one woman, stricter regulations to reduce pollution and supports government assistance for families and the poor. It’s a very small party but it has stopped the coalition government, which it’s a part of, from expanding euthanasia in the Netherlands. A larger party in the coalition campaigned on expanding it (the Democrats 66, I think it’s missing another 6 in its name) and well that doesn’t look like it’s going to happen -for now.

Christian Union (Netherlands) - Wikipedia

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My favorite part of the article:
The “big tent” of the Democratic Party now seems a pup tent. Annafi Wahed, a former staffer to Hillary Clinton, recently wrote in this newspaper about her experience attending the Conservative Political Action Conference. She complimented the conservative attendees, pointing out that most made her feel welcome at their meeting. They listened attentively to her views—a courtesy, she had to admit, that would not be given to them at a meeting of political liberals.
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JanSobieskiIII:
Last year, Democratic National Committee Chairman Tom Perez insisted that pro-life candidates have no place in the modern Democratic Party.”
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Sounds like the party not only abandoned Catholics. It firmly rejects Catholics.
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But Dolan doesn’t say embrace the GOP, so what is he getting at with this article? It is telling that Stormy Daniels had this to say about why she’s a Republican:

“Now I cannot help but recognize that over time my libertarian values regarding both money and sex and the legal use of one for the other is now best espoused by the Republican Party.”

I wonder what Dolan would think of that?

Dolan is being frightfully short-sighted when it comes to public funding of Catholic schools. That would be a disaster. It would mean public funding for Muslim schools as well, which is what they do in Britain. This is the root cause of why so many British Muslims failed to assimilate even after the second generation. As the Muslim population of NY keeps growing, the last thing you want to do is give them a free ride.

If Dolan is worried about funding Catholic schools for poor kids, he should hit up those big donors who gave him so much money to renovate Saint Patrick’s Cathedral.
 
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With respect to schools, I tend to agree. The problem is that currently the only schools being funded are the socialist-atheist schools—i.e. public schools which proclaim the de facto established religion of the government. They used to be Protestant schools, but that has changed.

Cardinal Dolan made no comment about the GOP. He only commented that the Democratic Party has rejected Catholics. That is sad. The solution is not to endorse another party but to encourage both parties to accept and respect pro-life views and pro-lfe candidates. Pro-life candidates were at one time acceptable to the Democratic Party. Now they are not. Planned Parenthood and NARAL seem to be calling the shots.
 
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Dolan is being frightfully short-sighted when it comes to public funding of Catholic schools. That would be a disaster. It would mean public funding for Muslim schools as well, which is what they do in Britain
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And? Rich Muslims already have this option. School choice is about just that, letting parents have a say in their kids education, without having to pay twice, once for the empty seat in public school, and once for tuition in private school.

This is one area in which liberals and conservatives people of faith often find common cause.
 
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Dolan is being frightfully short-sighted when it comes to public funding of Catholic schools. That would be a disaster. It would mean public funding for Muslim schools as well, which is what they do in Britain
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And? Rich Muslims already have this option. School choice is about just that, letting parents have a say in their kids education, without having to pay twice, once for the empty seat in public school, and once for tuition in private school.

This is one area in which liberals and conservatives people of faith often find common cause.
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In the United States, the vehicle for assimilation since the arrival of the Irish in the first half of the 19th century has been to require immigrant families to send their children to either free public schools or privately funded faith-based schools. This combination of making it easy to become an American and harder to maintain one’s old religious/ethnic identity is why the U.S. has been so successful in assimilating new ethnic groups. Within a generation or two, the children of immigrant parents come to think of themselves as American.

Muslim immigrants are the new kids on the block. If they are to assimilate and become Americans, they need to go through the same process as every other religious/ethnic group has had to endure as part of the American experience. If they don’t, they will never shed those aspects of a Muslim identity that are antithetical to Western values - especially values that center on equality and religious liberty.

Without the virtually free labor of Catholic nuns, Catholic schools have essentially become expensive private schools for an elite segment of the population. New educational standards only make the situation worse. I can understand Cardinal Dolan wanting to offset these expenses by receiving public funds, but that would simply open a pandora’s box of trouble. It may help in the short term, but eventually, most of the money will go to fund Muslim schools and that will undermine the assimilation process. Eventually we will become a Muslim nation as the number of Muslims increase each year, with nothing to stem the tide or encourage assimilation.

Parents always have the option to home school and set up a home school co-op if they do not like the idea of sending their children to the local public school. The idea that school choice depends upon public funding of private faith-based schools is a total fiction.
 
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I’m actually with Luke but probably for a different reason. I don’t want anything to be done that makes Islam easier to propagate in the US.

That heresy needs to be squashed.
 
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