Celebrity priest punished after being caught with woman

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MrS said:
That is pretty much what they told Tom Cruise when he entered the seminary
 you have to leave, because your looks will be too much of a problem.
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Are you serious or are you just kidding around?

If it’s true, he should’ve stayed in the seminary
then he wouldn’t have become a Scientologist who has a thing for Catholic women. 😃
 
cathgal said:
This scandal has cause a rally out there. People are violently defending him and accusing the Church of the strict celebacy practice. Way to go, Padre!

If he want to do penance, he should start out by telling the people that he still stand firm with the Church on celibacy and to encourage the people to be obedient to the Church. In his moment of weakness, he has failed God and the faithful, but this is no reason to protest the Church. What he needs is prayer and forgiveness, not protest.

That is what I think he should say

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According to Jr education he conducted himself with humidity and was acting as he should when this scandal was revealed
He didn’t make excuses for himself not attack the rule of celibacy, nor drag the name of the woman involved into this
He didn’t call a press conference

He certainly didn’t encourage this behavior, so why lay it as his doorstep?..These people chose to do this on their own
The church might prefer him to say as little as possible about the entire situation
He has said he was sorry and he wants to follow Christ

I think it’s best he doesn’t make a speech, and he is probably very upset and might not be in a fit state to say much at all
I will be merciful toward him, and I hope others will too
 
redrosetea said:
According to Jr education he conducted himself with humidity and was acting as he should when this scandal was revealed
He didn’t make excuses for himself not attack the rule of celibacy, nor drag the name of the woman involved into this
He didn’t call a press conference

He certainly didn’t encourage this behavior, so why lay it as his doorstep?..These people chose to do this on their own
The church might prefer him to say as little as possible about the entire situation
He has said he was sorry and he wants to follow Christ
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I’m not saying he himself encouraged protest. His action did
okaaay?
I think it’s best he doesn’t make a speech, and he is probably very upset and might not be in a fit state to say much at all
I will be merciful toward him, and I hope others will too
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I still think he can calm the crowd by making such a speech

 
Can this matter be related to the of suffering? Offer up every single suffering for our priests. Priests are the most vulnerable to sin, precisely because they have the Seal of the High Priest and the enemy knows it and does a good job in tempting them day and night.
Our vocation as followers of Christ is to defend the truth always. But, in doing it so, we also are called to be compassionate towards sinners, including ourselves. The truth is, we have this fallen nature that can’t be conquered on our own but, with only with the help of God and the prayers and sacrifices of each other. Christ conquered already death and He paid the ransom for all the sins of His priests too.
The current president of Paraguay continues to be the subject of agitation through the media, daily. Accusations and claims for paternity are the topic of the day. He does not occupy any longer the sit in the Church as a Bishop. This does not mean he’s no longer a priest; he’ll maintain his identity for ever. My job is not to condemn him but to cry out to the God of love for mercy. Our Lord has given us the gift of hope, trust; therefore, we only can hope for God’s forgiveness.
I don’t get trapped in the excitement of the news because I feel as I am giving too much credit to the enemy. God is more powerful than any earthly power and if I concentrate my energy in the goodness and beauty of God and His Bride, I can’t do other than praying.
EWTN, under Faith, Devotions we can find the novena for Priests. It is a perpetual novena I say it for my priests. If my High Priest ordained His successors -miserable sinners- with the assurance that He, as the Head of His Church is praying for them so that their faith will not fail, I’m also responsible for praying for all the priests.
Holy Mary, Mother of all priests, protect them from all the snares of the devil!!
 
KathleenElsie said:
Mostly smaller more intimate churches. Can you see a poor woman and children in a 2000 family parish being allowed any privacy?
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By allowing married prioests, you would be able to have smaller parishes, since it would incresase the number of available priests.
 
cathgal said:
I’m not saying he himself encouraged protest. His action did
okaaay?

His action had nothing to do with this
He simply committed a sin, he didn’t try to be a rabble rouser
When he sinned I doubt that he was thinking my parish will rally in my defense , he probably never thought anyone would know

I still think he can calm the crowd by making such a speech

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How do you know he is any emotional condition to be able to do this? He has gone though a very traumatic experience
brought on by himself granted, but for all we know he could be badly depressed or even suicidal
if he is in this condition he wouldn’t be able to calm anything
he might be holding on by a thread, he has just blew his entire career and vocation

People need to let the church handle this the way they think is best
 
Cracker_Mom said:
“Humidity?” As in “steamy?” 😃
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Redrosetea:
I think it would help
You know how you intended it but no one else does
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Cracker_Mom said:
Exactly.
We had a young, very good looking priest years ago who was accused of inappropriate contact with a woman parishoner. The bishop sent him off to “priest Siberia” for a period of time & eventually allowed him another parish where he did the same thing with another woman

Either you have respect for the vows you take or you don’t. If you don’t, you will keep breaking them.
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Sounds like my “deep south” diocese


In our case, this very popular young priest, who seemed extremely orthodox and “Fr. O’Malley like”, molested several vulnerable, fragile women. (This is factual, as depositions were posted online by someone outraged by the whole sordid business.) The diocese backed him to the hilt, providing a very aggressive legal defense (including threatening to put the mentally unbalanced son of one of his victims on the stand; she withdrew her lawsuit.) There was a large settlement in another case, which they made only when the woman agreed not to talk about it.

The priest is now pastor of a large parish, and is regularly featured as a speaker, leads retreats, etc. He has a loyal following who will never believe he did any of this. We remain utterly baffled and dismayed by the support he has received.

Indeed, Satan does go after priests.

It seems that Fr. Cutie is handling this situation in a humble and remorseful way; perhaps he can come out of this a better priest.
 
bobzills said:
By allowing married prioests, you would be able to have smaller parishes, since it would incresase the number of available priests.
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:nope:Other churches/religions have a problem with clergy numbers also.
 
I will add a small piece to this discussion - not the main point, but worth mentioning. I moved to Miami Beach in early 2007 and have been attending services at St Francis de Sales church quite regularly. But I have to tell, the level of indecency in dressing by parishioners and people attending wedding ceremonies at this church is perhaps the most shocking I have seen during my life, tied in with that exhibited by parishioners of the Catholic Church on the campus of the University of Miami. St Francis de Sales church is very close to me, and the church on the campus was a logical choice since I enjoy being immersed in campus life. Yet, I started shunning both of these churches and attend services at the Gesu Church downtown instead when possible, because I don’t want to be exposed to what I would see at the former two churches. Parish priests do not have this luxury of shunning their own churches because of the way their parishioners dress


I do not mean to say that Fr. Cutie was guiltless, or that this particular thing directly provoked his stumbling. I do not know whether he originally met that woman, with whom he was photographed, at his parish church or somewhere else. However, wearing sexually tempting clothing for church is definitely not OK, and we parishioners must do our share to uphold modesty.
 
JReducation said:
  1. He responded with a moral uprightness. He was out of state when the news broke. He took the first plane back to Miami, reported to his bishop and told his bishop the truth. He did not discredit his partner by revealing her identity. Nor did he discredit the Church by going on national TV complaining about priestly celibacy or justifying himself.
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Although, prior to the scandal and duuring a local television program, he told his interviewer that he thought that priests should be allowed to marry and that the Church would be healthier if they were.
Last week, days before compromising photos of him with an unidentified woman were published in a Mexican magazine, Cutié told an interviewer the church should give Catholic priests the choice to marry.
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‘‘If they want to discipline me, let them discipline me, but I think the option would be better and healthier,’’ he said on WSBS-TV’s Paparazzi TV program.
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miamiherald.com/news/5min/story/1037751.html
 
I use to watch Padre Alberto when he would do interviews and even when he had his own show on Spanish televison, but, the moment that I heard him make a comment several years ago concerning homosexuality on a show called Quien tiene la razon? (Who is right?) that went completely against the teachings of the church I told myself that I would never again watch any interview or program associated with this priest.

In the interview he was asked his opinion on homosexuality and he answered (I am paraphrasing) “that science was starting to prove that homosexuality is genetic” :eek: By their fruits you shall know them


I prayed for Padre Alberto but something inside of me knew that it was only a matter of time before he would be involved in a major scandal. I even said this to family members several years ago after he made that comment on homosexuality.

As I was flipping the channels today I accidentally came across an interview with Padre Alberto and I was shocked to see him doing an interview in Spanish for a show called “Aqui y Ahora” (Here and Now) with Maria Elvira (you can see it on youtube but I will NOT post a link to it). I was going to change the channel but out of charity and my belief that with God nothing is impossible and that he would be truly repentant, I watched it and could only stomach a few minutes of it before I changed the channel.

This priest was all smiling throughout the interview and when asked about the woman he was having an affair with he said “what attracted me to her is that she is woman of tremendous faith”. Then when asked if he felt sorry for what he had been doing he said "Did I feel culpable?..did I feel bad?..horrible?..no. Because I believe that I am a man, I never stopped being a man because I put on my cassock. Underneath this cassock are pants. I believe that I have always been a man and am part of the human condition."

I have never in my life felt so much indignation as I do now. And I am filled with righteous anger that this priest is allowed to make such interviews and hurt so many of the faithful through his actions.

Lord have mercy on me for feeling such anger and give me peace because I cannot even pray for this man right now.
 
DeusVeritas said:
I use to watch Padre Alberto when he would do interviews and even when he had his own show on Spanish televison, but, the moment that I heard him make a comment several years ago concerning homosexuality on a show called Quien tiene la razon? (Who is right?) that went completely against the teachings of the church I told myself that I would never again watch any interview or program associated with this priest.

In the interview he was asked his opinion on homosexuality and he answered (I am paraphrasing) “that science was starting to prove that homosexuality is genetic” :eek: By their fruits you shall know them


I prayed for Padre Alberto but something inside of me knew that it was only a matter of time before he would be involved in a major scandal. I even said this to family members several years ago after he made that comment on homosexuality.

As I was flipping the channels today I accidentally came across an interview with Padre Alberto and I was shocked to see him doing an interview in Spanish for a show called “Aqui y Ahora” (Here and Now) with Maria Elvira (you can see it on youtube but I will NOT post a link to it). I was going to change the channel but out of charity and my belief that with God nothing is impossible and that he would be truly repentant, I watched it and could only stomach a few minutes of it before I changed the channel.

This priest was all smiling throughout the interview and when asked about the woman he was having an affair with he said “what attracted me to her is that she is woman of tremendous faith”. Then when asked if he felt sorry for what he had been doing he said "Did I feel culpable?..did I feel bad?..horrible?..no. Because I believe that I am a man, I never stopped being a man because I put on my cassock. Underneath this cassock are pants. I believe that I have always been a man and am part of the human condition."

I have never in my life felt so much indignation as I do now. And I am filled with righteous anger that this priest is allowed to make such interviews and hurt so many of the faithful through his actions.

Lord have mercy on me for feeling such anger and give me peace because I cannot even pray for this man right now.
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St. Peter was the first Pope and Jesus gave him the keys. Also, St. Peter was married and had a family. If St. Peter was married, and if there are many men today who would be good priests, but are not made for the vow of celbacy, why not allow them to become priests, as Our Divine Lord allowed St. Peter to become the first Pope?
 
bobzills said:
St. Peter was the first Pope and Jesus gave him the keys. Also, St. Peter was married and had a family. If St. Peter was married, and if there are many men today who would be good priests, but are not made for the vow of celbacy, why not allow them to become priests, as Our Divine Lord allowed St. Peter to become the first Pope?
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It comes down to one thing, OBEDIENCE. If as a priest you cannot be obedient to Holy Mother Church then what’s to stop you from becoming disobedient in other aspects of your vocation as a priest? **A priest takes a vow of celibacy ** and he broke that vow. This is not the case of a seminarian who is wrestling with whether or not he should get married or become priest. Father Alberto broke his vows and did so in a very public way that has caused scandal and there will probably be thousands of disillusioned Catholic’s who will distance themselves from the church because of his actions.

The severity of the consequences of his actions cannot be taken lightly.

It is not a dogma that a Latin Rite priest cannot marry but a church discipline. Just as some Eastern Christian rites have their church discipline in allowing their priests to marry. But even with certain Eastern rites allowing priests to be married, they also take their vows when ordained and must be obedient to their respective churches.

And obedience is what it all comes down to.
 
DeusVeritas said:
It comes down to one thing, OBEDIENCE. If as a priest you cannot be obedient to Holy Mother Church then what’s to stop you from becoming disobedient in other aspects of your vocation as a priest? **A priest takes a vow of celibacy ** and he broke that vow. This is not the case of a seminarian who is wrestling with whether or not he should get married or become priest. Father Alberto broke his vows and did so in a very public way that has caused scandal and there will probably be thousands of disillusioned Catholic’s who will distance themselves from the church because of his actions.

The severity of the consequences of his actions cannot be taken lightly.

It is not a dogma that a Latin Rite priest cannot marry but a church discipline. Just as some Eastern Christian rites have their church discipline in allowing their priests to marry. But even with certain Eastern rites allowing priests to be married, they also take their vows when ordained and must be obedient to their respective churches.

And obedience is what it all comes down to.
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But was not Our Divine Lord the most perfect man who ever lived? If He was, then did He not choose a married man to be the first priest and the first Pope of the Catholic Church? And were not all of the Apostles, except for John, married? Why do you want to go against what Our Divine Lord did when He was on this earth?
 
Serap said:
Why? Can a person not be given a second chance where he won’t be continued to be humiliated? Aren’t we supposed to forgive if someone asks for forgiveness?

This guy had an affair with a woman; he’s not a potential sexual deviant. He isn’t accused of sexually harrassing anyone at his parish. He hasn’t been accused of making advances at a minor.

You think he should be forever judged and talked about behind his back because he had a consentual affair with a grown woman?

How do you know he hasn’t gone to Confession already? If he is sorry, why not be transferred somewhere else where he can let go of his shame and guilt and build a new life serving God?

I pray for the Catholic clergy all the time - that they stay holy. I agree that a priest should not betray his vows to chastity, but I also believe that humans make mistakes and if they ask for forgiveness, they should be forgiven.

I resent this holier than thou attitude that a lot of Christians have. We are supposed to be united in helping eachother during times of despair and need - priests included! Jesus said it better than I, “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”

This priest could have been lonely, depressed, desperate for love, etc. He could have had a close family member die. He could have found out he has cancer
we don’t know. Just because he seems like he has it all - good looks, celebrity status - doesn’t mean that he really had it all.
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I’m with you on this.
I wish that priests were allowed to marry so that they could have the love and
support of a good woman.

I am also a sinner, so I can understand the fact that he was tempted.
Maybe he should be laicized so that he can be married.
 
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