Chaperones lead Catholic schoolgirls out from "Nutcracker Suite" performance with same-sex roles, causing criticism, agreement

[Thorolfr]

Barnesy:

You can hide that fact from children or you can help them understand what it means.

Yes. You Teach them that Murder, Lying, Stealing, Abortion, Active Homosexuality, Etc . Are Sins

Even the average Catholic probably has a hard time taking statements seriously that equate their gay cousin, uncle, nephew or child with murderers, thieves and liars.

 

[EndTimes]

Even the average Catholic probably has a hard time taking statements seriously that equate their gay cousin, nephew or child with murderers, thieves and liars.

Whether that’s true or not - has naught to do with what Children are supposed be taught, per GOD

 

[Annie]

You can hide that fact from children or you can help them understand what it means. Ignore it and it will go away is not a great idea.

A big point here in the issue of the chaperones taking the students out is that the ones who are supposed to be the teachers in this area are the parents. it was not up to the chaperones to decide that the students should have this explained to them and certainly not shown to them il n a way which contradicts Church teaching.

 

[Barnesy]

Is suicide presented as good in R&J?

No but divorce is considered normal. Would they stop children seeing a play that had a dicorced couple in it? Could they see The Odd Couple? t sounds ridiculous to do that. I doubt that they would. Would they allow some one to talk at their school who had been divorced? Maybe twice? And lets say that person had been known to boast about groping women? Would they allow him to talk at a girls school? Maybe they would. But maybe the girls would stand up against that. Would any one support them if they did?

 

[Barnesy]

EndTimes:

Barnesy:

You can hide that fact from children or you can help them understand what it means.

Yes. You Teach them that Murder, Lying, Stealing, Abortion, Active Homosexuality, Etc . Are Sins

Even the average Catholic probably has a hard time taking statements seriously that equate their gay cousin, uncle, nephew or child with murderers, thieves and liars.

Its good to see that the forum stands up against some things that people say and some one was banned last week for calling gay people perverts. I hope hes allowed back so that he can have the opportunity to apologise to all the gay members of the forum.

 

[Annie]

Divorce is not generally sinful.

 

[TheLittleLady]

It is presented as romantic.

 

[Annie]

I noticed that trend some years ago.

I will refrain from further comment lest I too get banned.

 

[Annie]

Divorce in and of itself is not sinful and is required to get an annulment.

Divorce and remarriage without annulment is sinful.

 

[VanitasVanitatum]

Even the average Catholic probably has a hard time taking statements seriously that equate their gay cousin, uncle, nephew or child with murderers, thieves and liars.

To assume that that means they are all equal is not a accuarate approach.

Divorce is not generally sinful.

It’s harmful like that littering analogy you used a few post up.

 

[Annie]

It’s harmful like that littering analogy you used a few post up.

I agree, and I think I was pretty clear that sex outside of marriage is a contributing factor to divorce and the subsequent harms.

 

[Barnesy]

Annie:

Divorce is not generally sinful.

It’s harmful like that littering analogy you used a few post up.

I think that the people arguing for not letting the girls see the play was that it made gay marriage appear normal. So do catholics want divorce to appear normal?? I suppose not so they should tell girls not to see plays with divorced couples otherwise some one might say thats hypocritical.

 

[Annie]

A good Catholic school might decide not to take the students to a play with divorced couple(s).

Additionally, since divorce is so prevalent, one might assume that parents have already discussed the topic with their children. The school cannot assume the same about homosexual marriage.

 

[Annie]

I feel I ought to say that my comments have been related to the fact that this was a Catholic school event, and that Catholic schools should not take the children as this should be something for the parents to introduce and discuss with their children, not a conversation the school should force the parents to have with their children.

 

[vz71]

I think that the people arguing for not letting the girls see the play was that it made gay marriage appear normal.

You would be wrong.
It is because they are attempting to make it appear valid.
It isn’t, and it never will be.

 

[OurLadyofSorrows]

Do Catholic field trips walk out of performances that include divorced parents?
Very hypocritical.

Can you expand on what you mean here as it has absolutely nothing to do with the topic as far as I can see. Being divorced is a civil issue. If a Catholic is divorced, went down the annulled path and is remarried, where is the issue?
If a Catholic is divorced, is living a chaste life, where is the issue?
If a Catholic is not annulled and remarried, then that is between them and their priest. It is not for us to judge.
The definition of hypocrisy is

The practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case.

Our standard as taught to us by God and here is a link to Bible verses about judging others.
https://biblehub.com/matthew/7-1.htm

This topic is not about divorce. That is taking this topic down a rabbit hole and is very uncharitable to the OP.

 

[VanitasVanitatum]

The definition of hypocrisy is

The practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case.

There’s also having double standards which is another form of hypocrisy.

Can you expand on what you mean here as it has absolutely nothing to do with the topic as far as I can see.

It is supposed to parallel homosexual acts since they are both against the Church.

If a Catholic is not annulled and remarried, then that is between them and their priest. It is not for us to judge.

This is about not letting children watch media that contains it not judging.

 

[OurLadyofSorrows]

So, you wouldn’t have a problem if their was a play that portrayed a Catholic couple who got divorced and were then both remarried to other people in civil ceremonies and this was shown to be something perfectly normal and OK?

What I have a problem with , or not, is personal. Your tone is quite aggressive.

 

[Thorolfr]

Thorolfr:

So, you wouldn’t have a problem if their was a play that portrayed a Catholic couple who got divorced and were then both remarried to other people in civil ceremonies and this was shown to be something perfectly normal and OK?

What I have a problem with , or not, is personal. Your tone is quite aggressive.

I was just trying to understand what your position is on this issue, so I asked a question to try and find out.

I haven’t been following this thread very closely, but it looks like some people are concerned about the schoolgirls seeing a sinful situation (in this case, a couple in a same-sex marriage) that is presented in a performance as normal and acceptable. So, someone else brought up the case of a divorced couple, to which you responded that whether such as couple’s marriage was annulled or not is between them and their priest. But we’re not talking about a real couple, but a divorced couple portrayed in a play or on TV. I was curious to find out if the people who were opposed to the schoolgirls seeing a married gay couple would also be opposed to them seeing a divorced and remarried couple where divorce and remarriage is portrayed as normal. If the divorced and remarried couple portrayed in the play weren’t Catholic, it would be even more obvious that the first marriage was not annulled.

 

[vz71]

So, you wouldn’t have a problem if their was a play that portrayed a Catholic couple who got divorced and were then both remarried to other people in civil ceremonies and this was shown to be something perfectly normal and OK?

I would. And I have walked out of less.